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Category 11 => Pets, our four-legged children => Topic started by: MuslimanMahlon on January 29, 2012, 11:06:58 pm

Title: Leopard and Baby Baboon
Post by: MuslimanMahlon on January 29, 2012, 11:06:58 pm


Title: Re: Leopard and Baby Baboon
Post by: MuslimanMahlon on January 29, 2012, 11:16:19 pm
I was brought to this video when reading about "do animals have souls"? (

Another Quran only website a brother pointed me towards on facebook. Animals definitely aren't just simple beings..

Title: Re: Leopard and Baby Baboon
Post by: MuslimanMahlon on January 29, 2012, 11:20:13 pm
It gets better (

Title: Re: Leopard and Baby Baboon
Post by: Zeynab on January 30, 2012, 12:32:41 am
Salaam dear brother RM and many thanks for this interesting link.  It's well expressed and I agree with it.

I'm aware that majority of the mainstream Muslims claim animals don't have a soul, but I couldn't disagree more.   

As a matter of fact, from the very style of the Noble Quran I was convinced from the start that every living being (plants excluded as I wouldn't know about plants) has a soul.    Allah has said that life has a purpose.   This automatically reflects that all of those species contained within earth that breathe, eat, drink, think, speak in their own languages etc.  have a purpose too which doesn't simply end with death but stretches far beyond .. and the Noble Quran elucidates this point.

First off,  Verse 38 of Suah Al-Anam very plainly and directly points to the fact that every living being has a soul.

There is not an animal in the earth, nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are peoples like unto you. We have neglected nothing in the Book (of Our decrees). Then unto their Lord they will be gathered.  (6:38)

Like us, all animals will also be gathered before Allah on the Day of Judgment.  Obviously this implies that animals will also be resurrected after they are dead.  So the question is, why would they be resurrected if they didn't have a soul?

There's another verse No.82 from Surah An-Naml which mentions of the presence of the animal on the Day of Judgment to testify to the truth of Allah's revelations and His miracles by speaking before mankind because mankind never had faith in whatever Allah revealed.  This will be very derogatory for disbelievers on that Day who will be confronted of their misguidance by an intellectually smaller species which believed in Allah, unlike them.

And when the word is fulfilled concerning them, We shall bring forth a beast of the earth to speak unto them because mankind had not faith in Our revelations. (27:82)

This verse also reflects the fact that all animals (like angels) are not capable of disobedience.  Unlike humans, animals cannot choose their path of conduct.  With them, it's only belief in Allah and obedience to Him. Thus, even though they will be resurrected, they will not be questioned nor held accountable for their deeds as we humans will.

The Ahadith has several different narrations (supposed to be tafsirs) on Verse 27:82.  To put it briefly without wasting any time, all hadith explanations on this verse are a bunch of very confusing rubbish that might leave your head spinning as it did to mine.  Needless to mention, I never even bother to consult that junk.  However, if you are interested to check them, visit the following link known as the  Ahl-Hadith students forum. (

Btw brother, nervously I didn't watch this video of the leopard in case the film shows any killings of its prey.  It just happens that I'm too sensitive when it comes to watching a helpless animal die or get killed.  Even though I find jungle movies interesting, I cannot sit through them only for this reason.  I've had this problem (if it can at all be considered a problem) ever since I was a kid.  However, I feel sure within myself that Allah understands me on this issue just too well.   I saw the one of the lioness adopting the baby antelope earlier.  It's gorgeous but eventually the baby antelope is suddenly killed by a lion that leaps from nowhere  :(

Title: Re: Leopard and Baby Baboon
Post by: MuslimanMahlon on February 01, 2012, 05:37:05 am
Sista, you touched on more points with facts! Veddy nice, veddy nice (=

And yes, leopard killed the baboon.. Way it goes. So heartwarming when she cuddled with the baby baboon though! And it was so sad for me when that Lion jumped out and ate the baby Gazelle \= kinda wanted that to be a happily ever after story where the Lioness could grow old and watch the gazelle grow up..

Title: Re: Leopard and Baby Baboon
Post by: Zeynab on February 02, 2012, 11:40:05 am
Thank you dear brother  teethsmile