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Category 7 => Analysing specific Hadith narrations - => Topic started by: Ruhi_Rose on February 19, 2016, 02:54:14 am



Title: Along side Sunni perversion, Shiia depravity abounds
Post by: Ruhi_Rose on February 19, 2016, 02:54:14 am
As-Salam Alaykum everyone.

As we know, the practice of story-weaving for the purpose of corrupting our Beautiful Faith has been going on for centuries on both sides of the fence - among Sunnis as well as Shiias.  All you need to do is to take a close look at their inside activities and it will be hard to tell which of the two have fallen deeper down the dark abyss of ignorance.

While Sunnis unashamedly claim that ahadith and shariah can overrule the Laws of the Quran, the Shiias are lost in their own kind of utter misguidance.  This includes some Shiias circles of South Asia (India in particular).

Both Sunni and Shiia ahadith have a glaring authenticity problem. Similarly, phrases, quotes and anecdotes written by both sides are rife with absurdities.  A common practice of some South Asian Shiias is to say "ya Ali madad" in times of hardships.  "Madad" is an Urdu word meaning "help."   Such an utterance is a huge violation and definitely amounts to shirk because we are to implore help only from Allah and none else.  This Shiia phrase is similar to the Christians attributing divinity to Essa son of Virgin Maryam.

There is a phrase in Urdu constructed by some unknown shirk-lover and liar that's going around in certain Shiia circles of Indian Muslims.  That Urdu phrase and its translation are as follows:

In Urdu:
"mujh pey kyun laga rahay ho shirk kay fatway?
mein ney toh Mustafa sey soona 'ya Ali madad
."

English translation:
"Why are you issuing fatwas accusing me of shirk?
I heard Mustafa (title of the Prophet pbuh) say 'ya Ali help."

One of the places where this phrase was circulated was a Facebook timeline (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=153965301641416&set=a.106763649694915.1073741827.100010838404761&type=3&theater) of some sick idiot.

This above phrase is the most shameful of all.  It contains two violations together.  First, it insinuates the justification of uttering the lie and blasphemy "ya Ali madad."  Second, it speaks falsely by attributing this violation to the Prophet (pbuh).

Please know:  Imam Ali was a very pious and truthful man.  If he ever came to know that someone constructed a phrase hinting divinity at him, he would be absolutely furious!  Furthermore, needless to say, the Prophet (pbuh) and Final Messenger asked help ONLY from Allah Almighty and NONE else.   Even to suggest as a joke that the Prophet (pbuh) said "ya Ali madad" would be among the most vicious slanders invented against him (pbuh).  Hadithists who invent such repugnant falsehoods are sure forgetting that the Day of Judgment is not far and it will be a harrowing Day for such liars.


Also check:

- The rotten taste of some Shiia hadiths, for a change. (http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=4208.0)
- Who are more ridiculous - traditional sunnis or traditional shiias? (http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=1639.0)


Title: Re: Along side Sunni perversion, Shiia depravity abounds
Post by: Zainab_M on February 19, 2016, 03:20:05 am
This is absolutely shameful .. unspeakable!  Even worse than the Sunni hadiths - a blatant shirk and on top of that it's FALSELY attributed to the Prophet (pbuh).
Taubah. 

You're right.  The Shiia community of India are the worst just as the Sunnis of India are also among the worst of the 1.3 billion Muslims.  The influence of hindus in India has had a pathetically negative impact on Indian Muslims, in that, both Sunnis and Shiias indulge in deeper transgressions amounting to shirk.  There are many Indian Muslims who are completely secular.  And those who are not secular, display this sort of behavior.  Appalling!

I've come across some posts at Facebook of that person whose timeline you posted.  He clearly gave the impression of a person with very low intelligence and now that has been proven beyond doubt.

Of course, just as all Sunnis don't support the Hadith, similarly all Shiias are also not the type to say such horrible things.  Thus, the more sensible Sunnis and Shiias MUST speak up, reject and flatly discourage all such violations of their community members. 


Title: Re: Along side Sunni perversion, Shiia depravity abounds
Post by: N. Truth Seeker on March 13, 2016, 01:45:29 am


English translation:
"Why are you issuing fatwas accusing me of shirk?
I heard Mustafa (title of the Prophet pbuh) say 'ya Ali help."


Taubah!  This sort of lie amounts to one of the biggest spiritual crimes no different than idolatry.  In fact it is idolatry, calling out for help to a human being as one should call out to Allah Almighty ONLY.  Whoever is circulating such phrases is only preparing their souls to burn in Hellfire.  InshAllah.  They aren't wholly happy with their own misguidance and additionally seek to misguide others too.