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Title: Even in modern times, certain days need to be remembered
Post by: Ruhi_Rose on February 04, 2019, 11:36:12 pm



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Title: Re: Even in modern times, certain days need to be remembered
Post by: Heba E. Husseyn on February 04, 2019, 11:38:48 pm


Subhan'Allah.  Definitely wowie!   And what about the Jasmine Revolution of Tunisia January 2011?  Wasn't that also successful?


Title: Re: Even in modern times, certain days need to be remembered
Post by: Zeynab on February 05, 2019, 12:04:41 am


Yes, Jasmine Revolution was impressive no doubt, in that, it mainly gained a victory in the sphere of free speech.  Journalists in Tunisia have complete freedom of speech, unlike Iran.  But Tunisia didn't succeed as much concerning the ideology of governance.  They haven't been able acquire the best post-Jasmine Rev work strategy.  As in the case of Iran, they have established a wholly different and independent system to run their country which includes foreign policy ..... at least until now with Syed Ali Khamanei at the helm of the Supreme Council.  It's difficult to say what might happen after him.  Only Allah knows best.  One can only pray and hope his successor will be as committed to the values of the Revolution as him.  I do hope Iran works a bit more on promoting free speech.  Though very important, however it still takes the back seat when it comes to defending sovereignty.  I mean, what's the point of giving freedom of speech to journalists and then becoming a puppet and cracking down on anti-puppetism?  Though I don't mean to say that post revolution Tunisia is a puppet either.



Title: Re: Even in modern times, certain days need to be remembered
Post by: N. Truth Seeker on February 05, 2019, 12:13:55 am



Very good point Sister Heba.    But you too have underscored a very relevant point, Sister Zeynab.  It reminds me of an editor's note (J. Flores) in a piece at Fort Russ (https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/01/is-president-maduro-illegitimate-10-facts-to-counter-the-lies) - "All states are dictatorships – the immediate question even at the surface revolves around the degree of social and economic justice in that society, or in short – in whose interests is the dictatorship wielded?"      No doubt Iran needs to do more to allow its journalists and other folks to talk more freely about government issues, I mean constructive arguments, not pitting one against the other for promoting trouble.   Utilized the right way, wise free speech helps tremendously, if they understood, enables the government to know which direction things are moving and to what extent mindsets have changed.  Tunisia has achieved that.  To be honest, when my family and I spend our days in Tunisia, we really feel relaxed, more than any country in the ME and more than in the West. Though I cannot assert for how long it'll stay this way as certain wealthy Arab dictators are already frowning over the freedom Tunisians are enjoying since booting out Zinal Abedine Ben Ali.   

But post-Jasmine Rev Tunisia isn't as plucky as post Islamic Rev Iran when it comes to putting up a brave front against bullying, and often does end up shaking hands with with the wrong people.   Tunisians fearlessly express their disagreement over many of Essebsi's policies, but he seldom listens to them.     




Title: Re: Even in modern times, certain days need to be remembered
Post by: Heba E. Husseyn on February 05, 2019, 12:19:03 am



Ahaa ......  wisely explicated brother and sister.