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 on: January 16, 2020, 01:43:23 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Zeynab



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I hope their approach is to view this event as the start of a long journey on learning the Quran, otherwise it might not be too rewarding in the Sight of Allah Almighty. 
   

Exactly!  This is the crux of the matter.


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 on: January 16, 2020, 01:37:48 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn


Walaikum Salam sis Ruhi.  I understand your perspective perfectly. 

In my opinion it's fine to hold the event .. to teach the reading of the Quran.  If these little kids are able to memorize the entire Quran (or portions of it), that's great.  However such an event should be viewed as an initial formality, laying the foundation of a far more serious study of the Quran later in life when these children are grown enough to understand the highly significant subjects explained and instructed by The Almighty.  In that case, I think this event is a very good idea.  But if it stops here and goes no further, that certainly would be thoroughly insufficient and a huge oversight.  Unfortunately there are people and societies with such ideas.  I wouldn't know what's Huda Centre's take on this, but I hope their approach is to view this event as the start of a long journey on learning the Quran, otherwise it might not be too rewarding in the Sight of Allah Almighty. 

   

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 on: January 16, 2020, 01:18:56 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Ruhi_Rose


As-Salam Alaykum everyone. 
We get newsletters from the Al-Huda Islamic Centre periodically.   Their recent newsletter read as follows:

"Al Huda Muslim Society is proud to announce the beginning of the registration period for its sixth annual Holy Quran Memorization Course for children ages 5 and older.   We strongly encourage efforts to strengthen the foundation of your children's religion through this beneficial program, and may Allah (swt) reward you in this world and the hereafter.    Wasalam"

Teaching children to memorize the Noble Quran from age 5 ....  we know it's great to memorize the Noble Quran.  We also know it's just as important to understand every word of what we memorize otherwise it will not be possible to implement Quranic values in our daily lives.  And we also know that in accordance with Quranic principles, religion cannot be separated from life.  The Noble Quran is a Book of religious as well as practical guidance.  It includes all practical aspects of life - social, legal, educational, historical, scientific.  The Noble Quran details the rules of marriage, divorce and separation.  It informs us that menstruating women should abstain from marital relations with their husbands until menstruation is over.  It tells married couples to refrain from sexual relations while they are fasting.  It commands us to write business transactions for keeping records.  It informs us on the importance of having witnesses while resolving disputes.   It mentions about bequests and distribution of inheritance .... and other aspects, laying the cornerstone of a civilized society.  

Is it possible for children as young as 5, 6 or 7 to correctly understand all such significant and high-priority topics?  Obviously not.  So, when they start reading the Quran for the purpose of memorization at age 5 or 6, we know that it's only a vocalized practice, not beyond that. 

The tradition of ختم  قران  (finishing the reading of the Quran) for children of the same age is much the same except that children are taught to read the entire Quran, not necessarily memorize it.  

But in neither of the two events are children taught the essential instructions contained in the Quran, and it's not possible to teach those very relevant contents until children reach middle school (at least) or preferably high school. 

What's your opinion on Huda Islamic Centre's Quran Memorization course for children from age 5?



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 on: January 12, 2020, 02:59:37 am 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Ruhi_Rose


Oh!  I see.  Big thanks sis Heba.  I get it clearly now.  I forgot to focus on the preceding Verses.  Thanks again sis.  Allah bless.

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 on: January 12, 2020, 02:54:16 am 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn


Walaikum As Salam sis. 

No, it's not supposed to be in the order mentioned.   Verse 29:40 is an assertion of the plight to wrong doers of the entire region.  If you refer to Surah Al-Ankabut, starting from Verse 14, this Chapter speaks of the fate of the people of Noah, Abraham, Lot, Shueyb of Midian, Aad and Samood, and also Korah, Pharaoh and Haman.  The different retributions stated in the 40th Verse of Surah Al-Ankabut were to all of these communities who disobeyed Allah even after His messengers warned them.

I would think, the hurricane refers to the punishment of the people of Aad. 

"the awful cry" (some translators have interpreted it as a rumbling noise, might be an earthquake or storm with lightning) possibly refers to the community of Samood or Shueyb or perhaps both communities. 

The person swallowed by the earth was definitely Korah. 

Those drowned were the community of Noah, Pharaoh and his army.

All of these individuals and nations were involved in shirk, stubbornness, arrogance and immorality.  They considered their false deities to be their helpers.   But historical events prove their thoughts and ideas to be baseless and useless when their destruction was decreed by Allah Almighty.  The Owner of power is Allah only.  He alone controls the entire universe and it's His Wisdom that designs the system which runs every part of the universe.



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 on: January 12, 2020, 02:44:18 am 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

 
BismEm

"And Korah, Pharaoh and Haman! Moses came unto them with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but they were boastful in the land. And they were not winners (in the race)."  29:39 (Al-Ankabut)

"So We took each one in his sin; of them was he on whom We sent a hurricane, and of them was he who was overtaken by the (Awful) Cry, and of them was he whom We caused the earth to swallow, and of them was he whom We drowned. It was not for Allah to wrong them, but they wronged themselves."  29:40 (Al-Ankabut).


Okay folks, salams to all.   I want to learn something here.  In Verse 29:39, The Almighty mentions of Korah, Pharaoh and Haman.  Reading their punishments in Verse 29:40, does it go respectively in the order stated?  There are four retributions mentioned.
  


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 on: January 05, 2020, 02:55:28 pm 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by N. Truth Seeker





Another source, the heavily tainted Talmud, says a different story.  It says Korah was Prophet Moses' cousin and was very "handsome" who worked as a goldsmith.   It also mentions that after Prophet Moses returned with the Divine Commandments, Korah was one of the persons whom he ordered to destroy the golden calf, implying that Korah was present during the Exodus.   ......   

Easy to discern, Talmud is trying to paint Korah as a nice guy.  Exactly as they do in many new Sunni hadiths forged to the core, where dozens of bad people are displayed as good ones.





Implying that Korah was present in the Exodus is blatantly wrong.  The Noble Quran confirms in Verse 28:81, "So We caused the earth to swallow him and his dwelling-place." This could have been an earthquake or a hurricane, and the term "dwelling place" is obviously his home which was in Egypt.   The Verse clearly alludes to his death prior to the Exodus. 

Exactly sister ..


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 on: January 04, 2020, 09:59:56 pm 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn


Huge thanks dear sis Smiley    A rational clarification of where things stand.


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 on: January 04, 2020, 09:29:55 pm 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Zeynab


Walaikum As-Salaam dear sister Heba.    




Was he a social climber pandering for favor from the powerful by ditching his own tribe?     


In my opinion this might have been the case.  Such human mindset isn't uncommon even nowadays, towing the powerful to curry favors and if they succeed they sell their principles for the privileges they can grab. 

As you would agree, it isn't possible to confirm in what capacity he acquired social success.  The Noble Quran does not say it. 

The Jewish man-written sources are much too unreliable, complicated and contradictory. One of the Jewish sources called Aggadah says Korah had been Pharoah's treasurer in Egypt where he got the opportunity to amass plenty of wealth, probably hinting at corruption.  According to the same source, his wife also encouraged him to oppose Prophet Moses and Korah tried to make Moses appear ridiculous in the eyes of the people.   This is possible but only Allah would know about such details.

Another source, the heavily tainted Talmud, says a different story.  It says Korah was Prophet Moses' cousin and was very "handsome" who worked as a goldsmith.   It also mentions that after Prophet Moses returned with the Divine Commandments, Korah was one of the persons whom he ordered to destroy the golden calf, implying that Korah was present during the Exodus.  It doesn't say how Korah got so rich ... whether by robbing money as a treasurer or working as a successful goldsmith?  All of these sources are full of contradictions and counter-statements.  Only The Almighty has the final truth. 

Implying that Korah was present in the Exodus is blatantly wrong.  The Noble Quran confirms in Verse 28:81, "So We caused the earth to swallow him and his dwelling-place." This could have been an earthquake or a hurricane, and the term "dwelling place" is obviously his home which was in Egypt.   The Verse clearly alludes to his death prior to the Exodus. 

The reason Allah has not mentioned too many details in the Quran is because these aren't necessary.  It's only necessary to inform that a person of Prophet Moses' tribe or ethnicity in Egypt did not cooperate with him, getting deviated with pride and arrogance because he was very wealthy, and eventually he was destroyed.  That much is confirmed in the Quran which all we need to know and accept. 

 


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 on: January 04, 2020, 09:21:57 pm 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn


Salams dear all.  I was reading Surah Al Qasas  this afternoon and came across the Verse on Korah.  I then began thinking if we have covered this topic at MV.  Yes we did Smiley  Thanks brother TS.  

“Verily Korah was of the people of Moses, but he oppressed them; and We had given him of the treasures so much that its keys would have been a burden to a company of men endowed with strength. Once his people said to him: ‘Do not exult, for Allah does not love the exultant’.”  28:76 Al-Qasas.

So, from evidences in the Noble Quran, we can confirm that Prophet Moses (pbuh) struggled against the opposition of four oppressive misleaders - Pharaoh, Korah, Haman and As-Samiri.   Korah was a manifestation of wealth, Haman was a senior mason and Samiri was an epitome of deceit.   

The aspect on which I would like to get your opinion is:
As the Noble Quran confirms that Korah was of Moses' people, that refers to him being a Hebrew, right?  Apparently, despite belonging to the social category that was marginalized during the reign of the Pharaohs in Egypt, Korah still managed to carve a social status for himself that was more privileged than the common Hebrews.  How might this have happened?  Could he have received special favors from Pharaoh despite being a Hebrew?  Was he a social climber pandering for favor from the powerful by ditching his own tribe?  I know these points cannot be confirmed as the Quran does not mention such details.  Just looking for an opinion that might be a possibility. 

Furthermore, who precisely was he?  In what capacity did he get so wealthy while other people of Prophet Moses' tribe were facing oppression? 



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