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 on: Today at 03:57:01 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Zeynab

Insh'Allah, I hope so too.

 on: Today at 03:56:04 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

Furthermore, I'm quite sure this doesn't refer to memorizing the whole Quran, just a bit of it.   Most likely it would include memorizing Surah Fathiha, Surah Akhlas and Surah Kauser. 

That's right Sister Zeynab.  I think so too.   Allah Willing, hopefully this is intended to be the first step of a much longer journey of Quran study with proper interpretation and commentary.

 on: Today at 03:51:00 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Zeynab

Furthermore, I'm quite sure this doesn't refer to memorizing the whole Quran, just a bit of it.   Most likely it would include memorizing Surah Fathiha, Surah Akhlas and Surah Kauser. 

 on: January 16, 2020, 01:43:23 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Zeynab

I hope their approach is to view this event as the start of a long journey on learning the Quran, otherwise it might not be too rewarding in the Sight of Allah Almighty. 

Exactly!  This is the crux of the matter.

 on: January 16, 2020, 01:37:48 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

Walaikum Salam sis Ruhi.  I understand your perspective perfectly. 

In my opinion it's fine to hold the event .. to teach the reading of the Quran.  If these little kids are able to memorize the entire Quran (or portions of it), that's great.  However such an event should be viewed as an initial formality, laying the foundation of a far more serious study of the Quran later in life when these children are grown enough to understand the highly significant subjects explained and instructed by The Almighty.  In that case, I think this event is a very good idea.  But if it stops here and goes no further, that certainly would be thoroughly insufficient and a huge oversight.  Unfortunately there are people and societies with such ideas.  I wouldn't know what's Huda Centre's take on this, but I hope their approach is to view this event as the start of a long journey on learning the Quran, otherwise it might not be too rewarding in the Sight of Allah Almighty. 


 on: January 16, 2020, 01:18:56 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

As-Salam Alaykum everyone. 
We get newsletters from the Al-Huda Islamic Centre periodically.   Their recent newsletter read as follows:

"Al Huda Muslim Society is proud to announce the beginning of the registration period for its sixth annual Holy Quran Memorization Course for children ages 5 and older.   We strongly encourage efforts to strengthen the foundation of your children's religion through this beneficial program, and may Allah (swt) reward you in this world and the hereafter.    Wasalam"

Teaching children to memorize the Noble Quran from age 5 ....  we know it's great to memorize the Noble Quran.  We also know it's just as important to understand every word of what we memorize otherwise it will not be possible to implement Quranic values in our daily lives.  And we also know that in accordance with Quranic principles, religion cannot be separated from life.  The Noble Quran is a Book of religious as well as practical guidance.  It includes all practical aspects of life - social, legal, educational, historical, scientific.  The Noble Quran details the rules of marriage, divorce and separation.  It informs us that menstruating women should abstain from marital relations with their husbands until menstruation is over.  It tells married couples to refrain from sexual relations while they are fasting.  It commands us to write business transactions for keeping records.  It informs us on the importance of having witnesses while resolving disputes.   It mentions about bequests and distribution of inheritance .... and other aspects, laying the cornerstone of a civilized society.  

Is it possible for children as young as 5, 6 or 7 to correctly understand all such significant and high-priority topics?  Obviously not.  So, when they start reading the Quran for the purpose of memorization at age 5 or 6, we know that it's only a vocalized practice, not beyond that. 

The tradition of ختم  قران  (finishing the reading of the Quran) for children of the same age is much the same except that children are taught to read the entire Quran, not necessarily memorize it.  

But in neither of the two events are children taught the essential instructions contained in the Quran, and it's not possible to teach those very relevant contents until children reach middle school (at least) or preferably high school. 

What's your opinion on Huda Islamic Centre's Quran Memorization course for children from age 5?

 on: January 12, 2020, 02:59:37 am 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

Oh!  I see.  Big thanks sis Heba.  I get it clearly now.  I forgot to focus on the preceding Verses.  Thanks again sis.  Allah bless.

 on: January 12, 2020, 02:54:16 am 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

Walaikum As Salam sis. 

No, it's not supposed to be in the order mentioned.   Verse 29:40 is an assertion of the plight to wrong doers of the entire region.  If you refer to Surah Al-Ankabut, starting from Verse 14, this Chapter speaks of the fate of the people of Noah, Abraham, Lot, Shueyb of Midian, Aad and Samood, and also Korah, Pharaoh and Haman.  The different retributions stated in the 40th Verse of Surah Al-Ankabut were to all of these communities who disobeyed Allah even after His messengers warned them.

I would think, the hurricane refers to the punishment of the people of Aad. 

"the awful cry" (some translators have interpreted it as a rumbling noise, might be an earthquake or storm with lightning) possibly refers to the community of Samood or Shueyb or perhaps both communities. 

The person swallowed by the earth was definitely Korah. 

Those drowned were the community of Noah, Pharaoh and his army.

All of these individuals and nations were involved in shirk, stubbornness, arrogance and immorality.  They considered their false deities to be their helpers.   But historical events prove their thoughts and ideas to be baseless and useless when their destruction was decreed by Allah Almighty.  The Owner of power is Allah only.  He alone controls the entire universe and it's His Wisdom that designs the system which runs every part of the universe.

 on: January 12, 2020, 02:44:18 am 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Ruhi_Rose


"And Korah, Pharaoh and Haman! Moses came unto them with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but they were boastful in the land. And they were not winners (in the race)."  29:39 (Al-Ankabut)

"So We took each one in his sin; of them was he on whom We sent a hurricane, and of them was he who was overtaken by the (Awful) Cry, and of them was he whom We caused the earth to swallow, and of them was he whom We drowned. It was not for Allah to wrong them, but they wronged themselves."  29:40 (Al-Ankabut).

Okay folks, salams to all.   I want to learn something here.  In Verse 29:39, The Almighty mentions of Korah, Pharaoh and Haman.  Reading their punishments in Verse 29:40, does it go respectively in the order stated?  There are four retributions mentioned.

 on: January 05, 2020, 02:55:28 pm 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by N. Truth Seeker

Another source, the heavily tainted Talmud, says a different story.  It says Korah was Prophet Moses' cousin and was very "handsome" who worked as a goldsmith.   It also mentions that after Prophet Moses returned with the Divine Commandments, Korah was one of the persons whom he ordered to destroy the golden calf, implying that Korah was present during the Exodus.   ......   

Easy to discern, Talmud is trying to paint Korah as a nice guy.  Exactly as they do in many new Sunni hadiths forged to the core, where dozens of bad people are displayed as good ones.

Implying that Korah was present in the Exodus is blatantly wrong.  The Noble Quran confirms in Verse 28:81, "So We caused the earth to swallow him and his dwelling-place." This could have been an earthquake or a hurricane, and the term "dwelling place" is obviously his home which was in Egypt.   The Verse clearly alludes to his death prior to the Exodus. 

Exactly sister ..

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