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September 11, 2016, 08:26:43 am Zeynab: Wa'salaam my dear Sis Heba Smiley  Yes, Alhumdulilah, the 10 days of this blessed month went well by the Grace & Mercy of Allah. I wish the same for all.
September 11, 2016, 02:20:02 am Heba E. Husseyn: Salam my dear MV team and other sis and bros.  I pray the first 10 days of the bless month of Zil Hajj has passed well for all.  Hajj culminates in about 2 days. InshAllah.
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 11 
 on: November 10, 2017, 12:21:33 pm 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Zeynab
Wonderfully informative thread.

 12 
 on: November 10, 2017, 11:39:15 am 
Started by Zeynab - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

You're most welcomed dear Sis  Smiley




Actually what made me think of the comparison of death with sleep is that part of Pickthall's translation, quote: "and that (soul) which dies not (yet) in its sleep."  .


Yes, after studying your interpretation, I knew what you meant.  In Pickthall's translation it does convey that impression.  But other translations make it more specific.

 13 
 on: November 10, 2017, 11:34:40 am 
Started by Zeynab - Last post by Zeynab
Walaikum Salaam Sis Heba.  Many thanks for your input.  You are right, the explanation you mentioned is the more accepted one according to most other translations.  I also checked it with Corpus Quran.

"Allah takes the souls (at the) time (of) their death and the one who (does) not die in their sleep.  The He keeps the one whom, He has decreed for them the death, and sends the others for a term specified."  39:42 (Corpus Quran Word by Word translation in English).

Actually what made me think of the comparison of death with sleep is that part of Pickthall's translation, quote: "and that (soul) which dies not (yet) in its sleep."  The translation of this part of Verse 42 of Surah Az-Zumar is more specific in the translations which you posted and also in the translation of Corpus Quran which make it clearer that the reference is to the souls of the people who are asleep. 

It's also a very important Quranic confirmation to remember that our souls pass out of our bodies while we sleep .. and comes back when we awake only in those who still have some time left in this earthly world.  Alhumdulilah .. awesome!

Many thanks again dear Sis.    Allah bless.

 14 
 on: November 10, 2017, 11:11:53 am 
Started by Zeynab - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn
Salams all.  Sister Zeynab's interpretation is quite an eye opener.  I mean, I didn't think of the analogy of sleep with death.   Pickthall's translation makes this interpretation a possibility. But certain other translations don't.   The more general explanation of this Verse is reference to sleep as a form of death along with the actual death, in that, the soul passes out of the body during sleep as it does during death .... the only difference being that the soul returns to the body of those who are asleep after they wake up because death isn't yet ordained for them, while for those whom death is ordained by The Almighty, He keeps their souls.   And of course, those who are asleep and get back their souls when they awake only get it back temporarily ("till an appointed term").

The following are two other translations, one from the standardi Sahih International  and the other from the late Abu Alaa Maududi. 

"Allah takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that do not die [He takes] during their sleep. Then He keeps those for which He has decreed death and releases the others for a specified term. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought."  39:42   (Standard Sahih International translation).

"It is Allah Who takes the souls at death and the soul of the one, who has not yet died, during sleep. Then He withholds that for whom He decrees death and restores the souls of others till an appointed time. In this there are many signs for the people who reflect."  39:42  (Maududi translation).

 15 
 on: November 10, 2017, 10:33:54 am 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn
Walaikum As-Salam dear Sis.  Thanks for your appreciation and the good query.  You're right.  The Quran does not confirm in so many words that animals are made of clay like humans.  Maybe they are but only Allah knows for certain.  What we do know is that when animals die, they too get disposed off in the earth much the same way as humans.  If you have a pet, and the pet dies, you bury that pet and the process of the animal's physical remains mingling with the earth is, from what I know, similar to the mingling of human remains in the earth.  But what precisely might be the composition of the creation of animals can be confirmed only by Allah.  And as you rightly quoted Verse 6:38 which confirms that animals will also be present on the Day of Judgment, alludes that like humans, animals will also be resurrected and therefore obviously they too have souls like humans.  Furthermore, from the guidelines of the Quran we also know that as lower species who do not have the capacity to choose their path of conduct, animals will not be questioned about their conduct like humans.  And the Quran confirms that animals worship Allah alone, which means that they are completely into obedience.  Following Verses assert all of His creation including animals worship HIM alone.

"Seek they other than the religion of Allah, when unto Him submits whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and unto Him they will be returned."  3:83.

"Have you not seen that Allah, He it is Whom all who are in the heavens and the earth praise, and the birds in their flight?  Of each He knows verily the worship and the praise; and Allah is Aware of what they do."  24:41.

"Have you not seen that unto Allah pays adoration whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the hills, and the trees, and the beasts, and many of mankind, while there are many unto whom the doom is justly due."  22:18.


The last sentence of the above Verse which I've underlined refers to the disobedient humans.

"The seven heavens and the earth and all that is therein praise Him, and there is not a thing but hymns His praise; but ye understand not their praise." 17:44.

The last sentence of the above Verse which I've underlined manifests the fact that every creation of Allah Almighty have their own manner or language to praising or worshiping HIM.  As humans, we only understand our own method in which we praise and worship HIM. 

May Allah bless us with the Great Quran and make us benefit from its lovely, educative and comforting Verses packed with the wisest of words. We seek forgiveness of Allah for ourselves and for all sincere submitters who submit to Him alone.  We seek forgiveness for their sins they may have committed and then repented.   Ask Allah for forgiveness.

 16 
 on: November 10, 2017, 08:27:32 am 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Ruhi_Rose
Salams and peace.  Thank you me Sis.  This is so well elucidated and useful particularly for those who perceive little and tend to get confused. 

Would like your opinion on a query.  What about animals?  Are they also created of clay and its process of alteration as in the case of humans?  I know Allah does not specify this in the Quran .... I'm just looking for opinions.   Allah Almighty says in Verse 6:38 "And there is no creature on the earth or bird that flies with its wings except [that they are] communities like you. We have not neglected in the Register a thing. Then unto their Rab they will be gathered."  From this Verse we are informed to two things:
1) Animals are the creation of Allah Almighty as are humans.
2) Animals will also be gathered before Him on the Day of Resurrection.

What we do not know is whether or not animals are made of the same clay substance as humans. 

Allah bless.

 17 
 on: November 09, 2017, 04:50:51 am 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn
 BismEm


In a nutshell, man is surely made of clay which is prepared or adjusted in phases or stages.  Now let me analyze this statement with direct Quranic references. 

"Indeed, (the) likeness (of) Essa before Allah (is) like (the) likeness (of) Adam.  He created him from dust then He said to him, "Be," and he was."  (3:59).

dust = turabin in original Arabic Quran.

Commentators explain that the dust was then combined with water to form clay, reference Verse 6:2.

“He (is) the One Who created you from clay then He decreed a term - and a term specified with Him, yet you doubt.”  [al-An’aam 6:2].   

This clay was sticky – or one could interpret as viscous – reference Verse 37:11.

“Indeed, We created them from a clay sticky.” [al-Saaffaat 37:11].   The Arabic words in the Quran are "tinin lazibin" = 'a clay sticky."

Traditionalists explain that the word lazibin (sticky) comes from the root lazuba which has the meaning of becoming sticky and solid.

Highlighting some expressions that allude to clay in different forms.

"black mud altered" as in Verse 15:26 - "We created humankind of sounding clay from black mud altered."   Sounding clay in the Quran original Arabic "salsalin" means dried clay.  Black mud altered likely refers to sticky clay which is an alteration from dust in the process of creation of mankind.  "hama-in" means 'black mud.'   "masnunin" means 'altered.'

The quality of "salsalin" is practically considered to be very dry that rattles or clatters like pottery.  Or, when pottery is made, it's quality of clay can be called "salsalin."  This notion would conform with Verse 55:14 of Surah Ar-Rehman:   "He created the man from clay like the pottery."  (55:14).

All of the above expressions are to be perceived as the different stages of formation of mud in the process of creation of humankind.  Or, when Allah created man, He made that creation pass through different stages comprising of the various formations of mud.   According to commentators this refers to the creation of Adam.   Then afterwards, when the descendants of Adam began to multiply,  they were created through water which alludes to sperm or body fluid.  This explanation is to an extent supported by Verse 25:54  and 32:8-9, "And He (is) the One who has created from the water human being and has made (for) him blood relationship and marriage relationship."

" .. and He began creation (of) man from clay.  Then He made his progeny from an extract of water despised.  The He fashioned him and breathed into him from His spirit and made for you the hearing and the sight and feelings;"  (32:8-9).

However, I also think that the Quranic reference of humans created from water may have a double meaning, that is, descendants of Adam created by sperm (metaphorically referred as water) and also a direct reference to water as an indispensable requirement for human survival.

Furthermore, it's also clear from Verse 6:2 Surah Al-Anam that not only Adam but all his descendants comprise of clay as the foundation or core of their existence.  Quoting Verse 6:2 again:  "He (is) the One Who created you from clay then He decreed a term - and a term specified with Him, yet you doubt."  This Verse points to all mankind confirming creation of humankind with clay and duration of their lifespan ordained by The Almighty.

 18 
 on: October 27, 2017, 05:00:16 pm 
Started by Zeynab - Last post by N. Truth Seeker
Yesterday in our monthly discussion session, our agenda was the so-called harem, how many thought it was true and how many knew the hoax behind it.  I printed this post and took it with me. It was greatly helpful and was liked immensely by all. 

Btw, the Italian artist Fabio Fabbi has probably created the largest number of fake harem paintings that are absolutely bizarre and unauthentic.

 19 
 on: October 25, 2017, 06:59:01 am 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn
Brother TS .. you said it!    Right on from start to finish !!

 20 
 on: October 25, 2017, 06:55:30 am 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Ruhi_Rose
Hadith always talks big about unity yet those hadithists who rave after the hadith literature are least acceptable of a unified ummah by preferring sectarianism.  So many Muslims are presently being tortured and massacred by non-Muslims and takfiris around the world, yet those Muslims living in peace and comfort couldn't care less ... couldn't even bother to utter a few words of sympathy .. and yet they will quote hadiths on unification during conversations and writings.

Moreover on this hadith on excusing "your brother 70 times," I don't think anyone wouldn't observe the misogyny.  Aren't the poor sisters supposed to be excused "70 times" as well?

Not just that, but the contrast in values within the hadith literature is gut-busting.  One hadith is so intolerant that it permits burning people and their homes if they don't visit the masjid for Fajr salat.  Another one says to search for "70 excuses" for wrongdoing. 

Excellent points brother TS.  Couldn't agree more.

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