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 on: October 08, 2018, 08:31:39 am 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by ajzhyder

The word 'Nafs' can be translated as self/psyche/psychology. Ayat 39:42 defines 'Nafs' as conscious mind, which is not alive during sleep, i.e we are not liable for our actions during our sleep.
Rooh is spirit. The Ar-Rooh mentioned in Quran is 'The Spirit'. 'The Spirit' mentioned in Quran, it is not the human soul, but refers to the 'Spirit' behind the 'Words' of Allah, which is evident from the Ayas of Quran as described below:

Ar-Rooh in Al-Quran is the true spirit/understanding of the words of Al-Quran. Behind all words is an understanding, which is communicated to the recipient through the words. For example, a message comprising of words ‘Bring me water’ can be in any language or in sign language, however the understanding/meaning behind these words is the same .  When Al-Quran mentions Ar-Rooh/The spirit it means the true spirit of the Words of Al-Quran. It is not the Rooh which is commonly used to refer to the essence of life form in everyday language.

Al-Kitab mentions that Allah invokes this spirit (Understanding of the Words of Allah) in his Khalifa/vicegerent on Earth (15:29). When Mariam/Mary, protected her private parts and made a barrier between the the (sayings of) people and herself, the Spirit of Allah was invoked in her (66:12). The Spirit brings the message of Allah; the bringer of the message, is in the form of a human being (19:17).  Allah invokes his Spirit in any of his slaves he wishes, and after getting this spirit (of the Word of Allah) this person becomes the warner to people (40:15). Allah invokes this Spirit (understanding of the Word of Allah) on the Messenger, before the invocation of this Spirit, the Messenger does not know what is Al-Kitab and what is Iman/Belief (42:52). Allah strengthens the Iman/belief in believers with the help of this Spirit (58:22). One spirit is called the Ameen/Honest  so that it does transfers the true understanding of Al-Kitab with out any loss of message (26:193). A Spirit is also called Al-Qudus i.e the revered spirit (2:253, 16:102).  Another name of this revered Spirit is Jibreel in Al-Quran. This Spirit comes with the order of Allah (17:85). This Spirit when it comes with the Order of Allah in one night of determination on a person of choice, the understanding of the words of Allah, gained by the person , could be more than what may be possible to achieve in an entire life span of a human being which normally could be around 1000 months/83 years (97:3). All the Angels/Malaika/Forces of Universe are bowing down to the Spirit of Allah except the rebellious one (15:29) who makes comparisons in creations on the basis of self made criterion (38:73-76) and give arguments from both left and right side for wrongful justifications. (7:17)

40:15   رَفِيعُ الدَّرَجَاتِ ذُو الْعَرْشِ يُلْقِي الرُّوحَ مِنْ أَمْرِهِ عَلَىٰ مَن يَشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ لِيُنذِرَ يَوْمَ التَّلَاقِ

“Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne (of Authority). by His Command doth He send the Spirit (of inspiration) to any of His servants he pleases, that it may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting,-“

Only after the Spirit of the words of the Al-Kitab is inspired on the Messenger, he then gets the perception of the Book and the Belief.

42:52  وَكَذَٰلِكَ أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ رُوحًا مِّنْ أَمْرِنَا ۚ مَا كُنتَ تَدْرِي مَا الْكِتَابُ وَلَا الْإِيمَانُ وَلَٰكِن جَعَلْنَاهُ نُورًا نَّهْدِي بِهِ مَن نَّشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِنَا ۚ وَإِنَّكَ لَتَهْدِي إِلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ

“And Likewise, We have inspired you (the Messenger) the ROOH/THE SPIRIT from our order, you (the Messenger) did not have the perception, what is THE BOOK and the BELIEF, but We have made it light, We guide with it whom We will from Our servants. And surely you (The Messenger) guide towards the straight path.”

The Spirit is Honest/Ameen as it transfers the true understanding behind the Words of Allah to His Messengers.

26:192-4 وَإِنَّهُ لَتَنزِيلُ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ   نَزَلَ بِهِ الرُّوحُ الْأَمِينُ -عَلَىٰ قَلْبِكَ لِتَكُونَ مِنَ الْمُنذِرِينَ

“This is a definitely a revelation from the Lord of the universe. Sent down with it is the Honest Spirit; into your heart, that you may be one of the warners.”

16:102  قُلْ نَزَّلَهُ رُوحُ الْقُدُسِ مِن رَّبِّكَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيُثَبِّتَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَهُدًى وَبُشْرَىٰ لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ

‘Say the Revered Spirit has revealed it from your Lord with the truth so that to strengthen those who believe and a guidance any good news for Muslims/submitters.’

Another name for this revered Spirit is Jibreel/Gabriel;

2:97  قُلْ مَن كَانَ عَدُوًّا لِّجِبْرِيلَ فَإِنَّهُ نَزَّلَهُ عَلَىٰ قَلْبِكَ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَهُدًى وَبُشْرَىٰ لِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ

Say. Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to your heart by Allah’s will, a confirmation of whats between the hands (in Book form), and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

Mariam/Mary took a barrier between her and the people. Practically when you are seeking the spirit of the words of Allah, this Spirit resides within oneself waiting to be recognized. The other teachings prevalent in one’s atmosphere interfere with ones ability of recognize this Spirit. So, one important step is to distance one self from other teachings and focus solely on Allah in order to get His Spirit (i.e the spirit of the Words of Allah)

19:17  فَاتَّخَذَتْ مِن دُونِهِمْ حِجَابًا فَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهَا رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَرًا سَوِيًّا

“Then she took a HIJAB/VEIL apart from them, then We sent to her Our Rooh/Spirit/Essence. So he was an even example of a human for her. “

This Spirit came to her in a form of Human being i.e a human being with the Spirit of the Words of Allah in him.

When the true Sprit of the Words of Allah comes to one, he finds it hard to believe it to be true, as it may be quite different from what one is made to believe by environmental influences since one’s childhood. Mariam was also confused at first and she asked Allah’s refuge from the Spirit that came to her.

19:18  قَالَتْ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِالرَّحْمَٰنِ مِنكَ إِن كُنتَ تَقِيًّا

She said. “I seek refuge from you to (Allah) Most Gracious, if you fear Allah.”

Prophet Essa Ibne Mariam is also termed as Word and Spirit from Allah.

4:171  يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِي دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلَاثَةٌ ۚ انتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحَانَهُ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your judgement. Nor say about Allah but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary is a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him. so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Three/Trinity” . desist. it will be better for you. for Allah is one God. Glory be to Him. (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.

Allah aides the Messengers and believers with the revered Spirit.

2: 253  تِلْكَ الرُّسُلُ فَضَّلْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَىٰ بَعْضٍ ۘ مِّنْهُم مَّن كَلَّمَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَرَفَعَ بَعْضَهُمْ دَرَجَاتٍ ۚ وَآتَيْنَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ الْبَيِّنَاتِ وَأَيَّدْنَاهُ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ ۗ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلَ الَّذِينَ مِن بَعْدِهِم مِّن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ وَلَٰكِنِ اخْتَلَفُوا فَمِنْهُم مَّنْ آمَنَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن كَفَرَ ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ مَا اقْتَتَلُوا وَلَٰكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَفْعَلُ مَا يُرِيدُ

These are the messengers We endowed some above others; Of them Allah spoke (directly); others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the revered/holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding people would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they disagreed (among themselves), some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah does what He wills.

Allah invokes His Spirit in the Bashar/Human who He intends to make His Khalifa/Vicegerent on Earth. The order to all Angels/Malaika/Forces of Universe is to bow down to His Khalifa who has the Spirit of (Words of) Allah in him.

38:71-72  إِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ إِنِّي خَالِقٌ بَشَرًا مِّن طِينٍ  فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي فَقَعُوا لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ

When your Lord said to the angels; Surely I am creating a human being from clay. When I have made him even and breathed into him from My spirit, then you all fall down prostrating for him.”

The rebellious one, who does not bow down to this Allah’s Khalifa, tries to justify himself by minusing the Spirit of Allah, i.e he alludes only to the body form of Khalifa and does not mention the Spirit of Allah (which was the reason for the order of bowing down). The rebellious ones tries to create confusions in matters of creations of Allah by making comparisons on the basis of self made criterion (e.g fire better than clay). Rebellious one till this day instead of bowing down to Khalifa, tries to dissuade by makeing left and right side arguments, tries to create confusion in matters of creation and making false comparisons.

38:73-76  فَسَجَدَ الْمَلَائِكَةُ كُلُّهُمْ أَجْمَعُونَ إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ اسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ  قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَن تَسْجُدَ لِمَا خَلَقْتُ بِيَدَيَّ ۖ أَسْتَكْبَرْتَ أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْعَالِينَ  قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ

So the angels prostrated, all of them together: Except Iblees / devil who sought greatness and became from the rejectors. He (Allah) said: O’ iblees / devil what prevented you to prostrate for what I have created with my hands. Did you seek greatness or are you from the higher class? He(Iblees/Devil) said. “I am the better one from him. You have created me from fire, and created him from clay.”

The Spirit comes with the order of Allah. The knowledge with the man kind is very little.

17:85  وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الرُّوحِ ۖ قُلِ الرُّوحُ مِنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّي وَمَا أُوتِيتُم مِّنَ الْعِلْمِ إِلَّا قَلِيلًا

They ask you about The Spirit. Say: ” The Spirit is from the order of my Lord and you are not given from the knowledge except only a little (portion).”

70:4  تَعْرُجُ الْمَلَائِكَةُ وَالرُّوحُ إِلَيْهِ فِي يَوْمٍ كَانَ مِقْدَارُهُ خَمْسِينَ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍ

The angels and the Spirit ascend unto him in a period/interval of time the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years.

This could be at the time of the end of an era or end of civilization when the angels and the Spirit ascends towards the Lord.

 on: October 07, 2018, 01:15:30 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

A big welcome sisters  Smiley

 on: October 07, 2018, 01:14:27 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Zeynab

SubhanAllah.  A very informative input Sister Heba.  Very helpful for me too.    JazekAllah khair.  Allah bless.

 on: October 06, 2018, 02:43:34 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

Aw!  Many thanks for this bit dear Sis.  Totally clear to me now.  Alhumdulilah.

Walaikum As-Salaam dear Sis .....

Furthermore, it's also very essential to clarify that the translated expression "six days" is a bit inaccurate.  The original term "ayyamin" in the Noble Quran  precisely means epoch or era or span or stages ... a stretch of time marked by significant events with specific characteristics.  Thus the original Arabic expression "sittati ayyamin" refers to 'six epochs' or six stages or six spans.  Again, only Allah would know the exact length of time of each of those six epochs.  It's impossible for anyone except HIM to confirm that.  Most translators have translated the word "ayyamin" as 'days' but apparently that translation is symbolic.  It may not mean the usual days of a week or month brought about by the rotation of the earth.  It's not literal and therefore it can lead to a misunderstanding for readers with little or no knowledge of Arabic.

Another very, very useful elucidation that has helped my understanding of this expression greatly and sounds perfectly logical.  You're right, the choice of the translation "six days" has caused misunderstandings among many.  I recall, a couple of years ago a revert brother was getting rather restless as he concluded that "six days" means the standard 24-hours a day as in this planet.  We could only tell him that most likely it's symbolic.  We didn't know the exact definition of the original term "ayyamin" and "sittati ayyamin."  That makes perfect sense.  Alhumdulilah.  And yes, the duration of each epoch or span is known to Allah only.

Plenty of thanks Sister Heba.   

Allah bless.


 on: October 06, 2018, 02:14:58 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

Walaikum As-Salaam dear Sis .....

In my opinion that parenthetical expression briefly refers to the state of the universe (earth included) which existed before its creation, and Allah Almighty mentions it as "water."   But it may not literally mean the same water we have on earth.  It could be some other fluid or substance or gaseous matter.  Only The Almighty knows precisely what.  Thus when Allah says "His Throne had been upon water"  it means that before the creation of the heavens and the earth, the Throne of Allah rested upon that substance which He states as "water."   We cannot go any farther with this explanation as only Allah would know best what exactly that substance was.

The Quranic content of Verse 11:7 that follows the underlined portion, basically indicates the purpose of the creation of humankind which is a very popular query in scholarly spheres.   Very briefly, the purpose is to test humankind with a variety of challenges and also with successes as to how they handle these differing situations, proving the triumph or failure of their own souls in earthly life.    Unfortunately, as The Almighty Himself mentions in this Verse and it's so true as we see at present, most of humanity has chosen to disbelieve and has rejected resurrection.

Furthermore, it's also very essential to clarify that the translated expression "six days" is a bit inaccurate.  The original term "ayyamin" in the Noble Quran  precisely means epoch or era or span or stages ... a stretch of time marked by significant events with specific characteristics.  Thus the original Arabic expression "sittati ayyamin" refers to 'six epochs' or six stages or six spans.  Again, only Allah would know the exact length of time of each of those six epochs.  It's impossible for anyone except HIM to confirm that.  Most translators have translated the word "ayyamin" as 'days' but apparently that translation is symbolic.  It may not mean the usual days of a week or month brought about by the rotation of the earth.  It's not literal and therefore it can lead to a misunderstanding for readers with little or no knowledge of Arabic.

 on: October 06, 2018, 02:03:38 am 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."  (11:7)  Surah Hud.

As-salam Alaykum folks.  Can anyone please elaborate the underlined portion of Verse 11:7 with some additional commentary?

 on: October 05, 2018, 11:53:44 pm 
Started by ajzhyder - Last post by Zeynab

SubhanAllah.  All praise be to You, ya Rab.

Related topic:  Investigation before belief

 on: October 05, 2018, 06:01:45 pm 
Started by ajzhyder - Last post by ajzhyder
Al-Quran mentions that the believers do ponder over the Universe around them which increases their faith in the Creator. The Creator is the original designer and maker of the Universe. As believers discover more and more about this Universe, their awe and appreciation for its splendor, its immaculate design and balance, its complexity  and its immense power, increases and they can appreciate more the absolute wisdom, knowledge and power of the Creator. The parameters of the Cosmos are so meticulously designed that even if one factor or physical property of the matter and energy had differed an iota, the whole Universe would have crashed. This extreme care to perfection leads the believers to believe that this is all by the design of the most intelligent being whom people of all religions call the Creator.

3:191  الَّذِينَ يَذْكُرُونَ اللَّهَ قِيَامًا وَقُعُودًا وَعَلَىٰ جُنُوبِهِمْ وَيَتَفَكَّرُونَ فِي خَلْقِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ رَبَّنَا مَا خَلَقْتَ هَٰذَا بَاطِلًا سُبْحَانَكَ فَقِنَا عَذَابَ النَّارِ

Those who remember Allah, standing, sitting, and lying on their sides, and ponder in the creation of the skies and the earth, (They say). “Our Lord! not for falsehood have you created (all) this! Glory to You! give us salvation from the punishment of the fire.

The link to below post reviews verses of Quran about creation of the Universe and sequence of creation.

 on: October 05, 2018, 12:56:31 am 
Started by ajzhyder - Last post by N. Truth Seeker

Right sister .....

 on: October 05, 2018, 12:54:07 am 
Started by ajzhyder - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

That's very true.   

Also, what  stands out in my mind is that the true  Muslims or submitters are the only ones whose title has been chosen by Allah Himself.  People of all other religions have named their faith after other humans or tribes etc.  For e.g. Jew is derived from a major Hebrew tribe, Juda.  Christian comes from "Christ" (the anointed), the title people gave to Essa son of Virgin Maryam.  Similarly Zoroastrians  (also known as parsis in Pakistan) are named after their religous leader, Zoroaster.  Hinduism comes from some sanskrit word written as "sindhu" meaning 'large body of water' or 'river' based on which hindus revere the water of a certain river in the east of South Asia ... I forget the name of that river.  Buddhism which is a branch of hinduism is named after its founder Buddha and so on.   

It is only the name 'Islam,'  the only Ultimate Truth, which is chosen by Allah.

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