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 on: April 22, 2019, 05:15:58 pm 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

I'm glad you corrected her, Sister Ruhi.   How can anyone possibly think V.53:5 refers to Allah?  Don't these people know the importance of connecting preceding or following Verses or in some cases both preceding and following Verses to determine the meaning of Quranic Verses?

Below are the complete Verses from 5 to 10 of Surah 53.

"Taught to him by one intense in strength - One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true form While he was in the higher [part of the] horizon.  Then he approached and descended  And was at a distance of two bow lengths or nearer.  And he revealed to His Servant what he revealed."  (53:5-10)  Translated Sahih International.

"It was taught to him by [an angel] with mighty powers  and great strength, who stood  on the highest horizon  and then approached––coming down until he was two bow-lengths away or even closer––and revealed to God’s servant what He revealed."  (53:5-10).  Translated Abdel Haleem.

Actually the word "His servant" can be better translated as "His slave" for which the Quran uses the expression "abdihi" derived from the word عبد (abd) which literally means 'slave' not servant.  The term 'slave' is always more suitable as it brings out greater emphasis on bondage to Allah Almighty alone compared to the term 'servant.'

 on: April 22, 2019, 05:12:13 pm 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

That's very true.  Some readers who don't concentrate too well while reading the Noble Quran can commit a gross misinterpretation here.  For e.g. a sister neighbor who teaches the Quran to her teenage son with translation wasn't sure if V.53:5 was referred to Allah Almighty or an angel.  I was quite shocked at her misunderstanding.  Of course it wasn't intentional, she really has very little knowledge of both Arabic as well as English.   I got my copy of the Noble Quran and told her to carefully read from Verses 5 to 10 of Surah 53.  Then she understood and was very apologetic towards Allah.

BTW this Arberry is raving crazy.


 on: April 20, 2019, 06:30:59 pm 
Started by Heba E. Husseyn - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn


"Taught to him by one intense in strength -"   (53:5)  Translation Sahih International.

"It was taught to him by [an angel] with mighty powers  and great strength,"  (53:5-8)  Translated Abdel Haleem.

(This refers to Angel Gabriel as stated by Abdel Haleem at the footnote of his translation).

"Which one of mighty powers hath taught him,"   (53:5)   Translated Pickthall.

The confirmed reference in this Verse is to Angel Gabriel.  The Arabic words used by The Almighty in this Verse is "shadidu al-quwa"  the literal meaning of which is 'intense strength.'  The word "shadidu" (derived from shadid) can perhaps also be interpreted as 'mighty' but the correct and accurate translation is 'intense.'   The word "al-quwa" means strength, derived from the word 'quwa' (in Arabic) or 'quwat' ( قوت ) as pronounced in farsi and perhaps also in urdu.  Some translators have translated "al-quwa" as 'power.'   But again, that's not a very precise translation.  As you can see above, the only flawless and accurate translation of this Verse is by Sahih International that writes "intense in strength."

And look at Arberry's ridiculous translation.  This man seems have gone completely crazy.

Arberry translates Verse 53:5   
"taught him by one terrible in power,"  (53:5)

This above translation by Arberry is completely wrong.   Don't know why such an incorrect translation was ever accepted.

 on: April 16, 2019, 09:11:22 pm 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by N. Truth Seeker

Well said.   Kufari = guidance deficiency.

 on: April 16, 2019, 09:08:12 pm 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

 "why wish upon a star when you can pray to the One Who created it"?

So very correct.   

The human practice of admiring the created instead of its Creator is a disease that is guidance deficient. 

 on: April 16, 2019, 09:02:36 pm 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Ruhi_Rose

Thanks a lot Sis.  So interesting.    Allah is the Fount of all knowledge.

 on: April 16, 2019, 08:58:24 pm 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by N. Truth Seeker

Very well explained Sister Heba. 

As the phrase goes, "why wish upon a star when you can pray to the One Who created it"?

 on: April 14, 2019, 02:50:14 pm 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Heba E. Husseyn

Walaikum As-Salam Sis Ruhi.   Yes very true.  There's a slight change in the rising and setting points of the sun each day;  thus the rising and setting points in summer and winter are quite different.  All astronomers of modern times who have carefully observed the sun's path have reported this phenomenon.  It's a complicated one with plenty of details and this change in summer and winter rising/setting points also involves the earth's rotation around its axis.   

As we know, in the Noble Quran there are several direct references to aspects of astronomy and physics, and Verse 55:17 is one such reference.   It's a direct allusion of this occurrence.   Let's not forget, Allah Almighty provided us with this factual information in the 7th century.  Allah does not want to get into too many details of everything He has created and established with a system in the entire heavens because that would be very difficult for the people of medieval times to grasp;  they would end up completely confused and disinterested.  Rather, in the Noble Quran, Allah Almighty wants all such references to be briefly and articulately balanced so that it wouldn't be too tough for the 7th century society to understand, and at the same time would also fit into the more detailed discoveries of later times.

The following are some quotes from modern astronomical sources that fully support Verse 55:17.

Writes Solar Center Stanford   "Each day the rising and setting points change slightly. At the summer solstice, the Sun rises as far to the northeast as it ever does, and sets as far to the northwest. Every day after that, the Sun rises a tiny bit further south."

Quoting Sun path in Wikipedia   "The Earth's axis of rotation tilts about 23.5 degrees, relative to the plane of Earth's orbit around the Sun. As the Earth orbits the Sun, this creates the 47° declination difference between the solstice sun paths, as well as the hemisphere-specific difference between summer and winter.   .....  Solstice day arcs as viewed from 50° latitude. During the winter solstice Sun does not rise more than 16.56° above the horizon at midday, but 63.44° in summer solstice above the same horizon direction. The difference in the length of the day between summer and winter, from here to the north, begin to be striking – slightly more than 8 hours at winter solstice, to more than 16 hours during the summer solstice. Likewise is the difference in direction of sunrise and sunset."

Writes Slate technology - position of the sun in the sky changing over a year -  "So if you measure the Sun's height above the southern horizon every day at the same time, that height changes. In summer it's high, in winter it's low."

Writes a summer school in Spain   "Abstract. The inclination of the Earth's rotation axis causes the seasons and the position of sunrise and sunset to change every day. The maximum angular distance between two sunrises or two sunsets is the angle between two solstices. This angle changes with the latitude of the place."

Alhumdulilah.  All praise be to YOU, ya Allah.

 on: April 14, 2019, 02:26:06 pm 
Started by Ruhi_Rose - Last post by Ruhi_Rose


(55:17, Surah Ar-Rehman) رَبُّ الْمَشْرِقَيْنِ وَرَبُّ الْمَغْرِبَيْنِ

"rabbu   al-mashriqayni  warabbu  l-maghribayni."  (55:17) Surah Ar-Rehman. 

"Rab (of) the two Easts and Rab (of) the two Wests."  (55:17) [Translation word by word, Corpus Quran)   

 "Rab of the two Easts, and Rab of the two Wests!"  (55:17)  [Translation Pickthall]

As-Salam Alaykum dear everyone.

The note in Pickthall's tafsir explains "two Easts" and "two Wests" as the two rising places of the sun in summer and two setting places of the sun in winter.    Word by word translation at Corpus Quran also translates same as Pickthall. 


Can anyone give some information on the differences of rising and setting places in winter and summer?

 on: April 09, 2019, 09:57:12 am 
Started by Zeynab - Last post by N. Truth Seeker

SubhanAllah, this tafsir is very good.

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