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 91 
 on: November 25, 2018, 09:14:31 am 
Started by Zeynab - Last post by Zeynab



 

It’s the most dangerous spot on earth.   While learning about it you may wonder if this is real or something out of a dreadful science fiction movie into the world of aliens.   Unfortunately it’s real.  The tribal island of North Sentinel  is one of the group of Andaman & Nicobar Islands in the Bay of Bengal between India and Burma.   These islands are officially under Indian control.  The Indian authority disallows tourists, fishermen and just about anyone to set foot on this tribal reserve island.   Fishermen and poachers sometimes try to approach it but at their own risk.  They always face hostility from the savage Sentinelese, often with a hail of arrows.   

The primitive Sentinelese are the world’s most  xenophobic, unsociable and unapproachable tribe ever known in history. Until the present, they are the last uncontacted people on earth.  It remains to be a land where ignorance abounds in staggering proportions!  Their tribe is called Jarawa, and their isolation from the rest of the world is their own choice.  It’s anyone’s guess if they even know the name of their own tribe.  Primitive jingoism and its stagnation have pushed them to judge every outsider as an enemy and a threat.   No one decides to visit this island unless they have a death wish.

North Sentinel Island measures only 30 square miles with a population between 300 and 400; the savages live in groups of 50 or 100 with no community infrastructure.  They have no system for running their daily lives except adherence to their systematic mental darkness.  They have no leaders or chieftains, no police, no laws, no schools, no teachers, no doctors, no medicines.    The men and women wear no clothes except for a strip of short material wrapped around their hips.  Sometimes not even that.   Their existence is a vivid display of the extent to which long-nurtured aloofness and illiteracy hinder the metamorphosing of humankind into proper civilization.



Their skin is ash black.  Their faces are a bit rounded with negroid features.  They are supposedly expert marksmen.  They survive on fish, turtles, wild pigs and giant lizards that crawl all over that hell-on-earth island.   Whether or not they are aware of the concept of cooking is not known.  They do gather wild fruits but have no idea how to cultivate them.   Farming is unknown to the barbarians of North Sentinel Island.

They can count only up to ‘2.’   Beyond ‘2’ their allusion to every number implies as “several, many or plenty.”   There is no such thing as ‘writing’ in this community.  Their language is a mystery.  No one knows what they speak; whether they at all have a language or do they communicate through gestures and signs?   The outside world presumes they speak some Andamanese language.   That’s not correct either.  It was documented in the past that when an outsider who knew various Andamanese languages tried to communicate with them, they understood nothing and the episode resulted in hostile exchanges.  Smearing clay paste on their faces and bodies is common among these fierce isolationists.  Some viewers have described it as “body painting.”  The so-called paint is made of natural clay which ranges in color from light yellow to dirty brown.

Some travelers claim the North Sentinelese people have been living in this Indian Ocean island since the past 60,000 years preceding the supposed period of the polar ice sheets.   This is of course a conjecture for there is no reliable record to authenticate any information that many years into the prehistoric era.  Information on the ice age itself is loaded with inconsistencies.  We simply know that these native heathens are a very, very ancient  bunch of barbarians who have been left on their own and they are enjoying their profound ignorance as bliss!

Survival International, a group that often talks substantial presumptive nonsense, encourages the isolation of the North Sentinelese people.  It has been pressuring the world to “respect their wish to remain uncontacted” otherwise “the entire tribe could be wiped out by diseases to which they have no immunity.”  According to Survival International, while the Sentinelese “enjoy good health” under primitive conditions, the rest of the world consists of the disease carriers who can infect them.    Utterly fallacious.  If a community has “no immunity” due to self-imposed isolation, must the isolation deepen to further lower their immunity to the point that their own surroundings threaten their health, or should the world not focus on helping them out of their ignorance?

There’s no information on how many of these human beasts died or survived the 2004 earthquake and the tsunami that followed.  Their response to helpers is just as aggressive as toward attackers.

Take a peek at this video to learn a little about one of the lowest versions of humanity.   Lions and bears in the wild show a million times greater dignity and poise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yehiEiuFu4


 92 
 on: November 23, 2018, 09:47:43 am 
Started by N. Truth Seeker - Last post by Zeynab


Wonderful piece brother, and very important indeed.  Just recently we mistakenly allowed a selective follower of the Quran into our forum who dismissed the prime Quranic concept of submission and claimed "peace" as the essence of the Quran.  This sort of selective attitude is getting quite common and fact-finders and new learners must really be careful of such misleaders.


 93 
 on: November 21, 2018, 05:27:34 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by N. Truth Seeker


I totally get your point Sister.

 94 
 on: November 21, 2018, 05:26:30 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by Zeynab


Yes that's exactly it.  In the case of this person, I think it's primarily his programmed mind that's constantly pushing him to obstruct the truth.

That's why I'm so careful whom to let in.  Nowadays even several of those who call themselves "Quran aloners" have a hidden agenda.




 95 
 on: November 21, 2018, 05:22:17 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by N. Truth Seeker


hummm .... as I've always observed it's never a good idea to rush into commentaries until one has read the Quran at least twice or thrice with fullest of concentration ..... after grasping all its basic values comprehensively.  Otherwise, one's interpretation of a certain Verse may not be supported by another Verse which is exactly the blunder this brother has been making.  It typically happens when one hasn't been able to get hold of the elemental Quranic ideolgoy well enough.  For example he views Verses 5:27-29 as similar to 'turning the other cheek' or discouragement of self-defense; that's because he's missed out on those several Verses that emphasize on self-defense as such folks don't give themselves a chance to reflect carefully after reading both sets of Verses, either because they're too hasty OR they're led by their programmed mind. 


 96 
 on: November 19, 2018, 10:18:07 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by Zeynab


I won't be surprised if he does assume that as he's made it so obvious that he only cares for his personal fixation, not for the principles of Allah.

 97 
 on: November 19, 2018, 10:14:25 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by N. Truth Seeker


If 'Islam' means 'peace,' same as 'salam,' then what is the expression defining submission in the Quran?  Surely none can deny that submission to Allah alone is the essence of the Quran without which no one can even qualify for His forgiveness.   But this brother never touched that issue at all.  Is he of the opinion that Allah does not care whether or not His slaves submit to Him?

 

 98 
 on: November 19, 2018, 10:07:42 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by Zeynab


Many thanks for the additional clarification Sister Ruhi.  Those are very significant points and I'm glad you corrected them.  The Quranic narration on Adam's two sons is certainly not about allowing an aggressor to kill you.   And it's indeed deceitful of this brother to hide Verse 47:21 the way he did.    I won't be surprised if he has carried out more manipulations in the off-topic contents as I haven't checked all of that too closely.  I never knew his grasp of Quranic information was so poor .. and that he was so inclined to trickery.   




 99 
 on: November 19, 2018, 09:38:43 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by Ruhi_Rose


This brother is pretty confused;  he apparently isn't quite sure of the boundaries of the topic he raised and that's the reason he is going off-topic as he proceeds with his response.

However, I would like to pick two of his misinterpreted off-topic points and explain them because these are important Quranic contents and their misinterpretations must not be left unanswered.

 

Those who believe say, "Why is not a sura sent down (for us)?" thus when a sura of categorical meaning is revealed, and fighting is mentioned therein, thou wilt see those in whose hearts is a disease looking at thee with a look of one fainting from death, which is more fitting for them-  (47:20)

Believers who are peaceful people, pray that Allah reveals the true meaning of (ideological) fighting in Al-Kitab. When real meaning of Qital/Fighting (ideological fight) is clarified from Sooras/chapters of Quran, the people in whose hearts is a disease (see 2:8-12 for the people whose hearts have disease, are the people who like to wage violence/war in earth and they don't realize that they are themselves the violence makers). These people don't like this clarification of Qital verses, which is against their sentiments of war mongering and their faces show death like features, which is in-fact more apt for them as they love violence and to die for it. 

This commentary is completely wrong.

Verse 47:20 continues on to 47:21.  But the brother posted only V.47:20 and hid Verse 47:21 to deceive readers and justify his misreading.  Secondly, his commentary makes no sense, turning facts upside down, and no compatibility between the original Verses and his commentary.

Here is the complete message conveyed by Allah concerning this aspect:

"Those who believe say, "Why has a surah not been sent down? But when a precise surah is revealed and fighting is mentioned therein, you see those in whose hearts is hypocrisy looking at you with a look of one overcome by death. And more appropriate for them [would have been]    47:20.

Obedience and good words. And when the matter [of fighting] was determined, if they had been true to Allah , it would have been better for them."  47:21.


"Those who believe ..."  refers to the big talkers who aren't true to their word, whose promises are showboats but fail when put to the test.  These are the hypocrites.  So when Allah commands fighting through His Revelations, then those cowardly hypocrites turn nervous and back off.  This is up to Verse 47:20.   Then in Verse 47:21 Allah says it would have been more appropriate and much better for them if they had obeyed His Commandment in the matter of fighting and thus proven their loyalty to Him.



 
Let us review below Ayas in Quran about physical fighting:

5:27-29  وَاتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ ابْنَيْ آدَمَ بِالْحَقِّ إِذْ قَرَّبَا قُرْبَانًا فَتُقُبِّلَ مِنْ أَحَدِهِمَا وَلَمْ يُتَقَبَّلْ مِنَ الْآخَرِ قَالَ لَأَقْتُلَنَّكَ ۖ قَالَ إِنَّمَا يَتَقَبَّلُ اللَّهُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ  لَئِن بَسَطتَ إِلَيَّ يَدَكَ لِتَقْتُلَنِي مَا أَنَا بِبَاسِطٍ يَدِيَ إِلَيْكَ لِأَقْتُلَكَ ۖ إِنِّي أَخَافُ اللَّهَ رَبَّ الْعَالَمِينَ  إِنِّي أُرِيدُ أَن تَبُوءَ بِإِثْمِي وَإِثْمِكَ فَتَكُونَ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّارِ ۚ وَذَٰلِكَ جَزَاءُ الظَّالِمِينَ

And recite over them the news in truth of the two sons of Adam. When they both gave sacrifice to be close (to Allah) then it was accepted from one of them and was not accepted from the other. "He said I will definitely kill you." "He said surely Allah accepts (the sacrifice)from those who guard." "If you will stretch out your hand towards me to kill me, I will not stretch out my hand towards you to kill you. Surely I fear Allah the Lord of the Worlds." "Surely I intend that you reside with my sin (in killing me ) and with your sin. So you will be from the companion of fire. And that is the reward of the oppressors."  (5:27-29)

What is the lesson we get from the above Ayas? When some one attacks you physically you are not to strike back, why? because Allah is there to recompense fully the evil doers? (See related post of Qasas : https://topicsfromquran.com/2017/06/04/qasas/)A grave evil act like murder will stay in the psyche of the perpetrator and will haunt him and eventually destroy his psychology. A person doing bad acts can not live peacefully like a person  with clean conscience who does not have to fear everyday getting recompensed for his evil actions. If there is a choice, it is always better to leave the scene where some one attacks you to cause bodily harm. 

No, no.  That's not the lesson at all.  You can strike back, but you shouldn't take the initiative.  Self defense is fully approved by Allah Almighty.   Let's analyse it with care.

"But recite unto them with truth the tale of the two sons of Adam, how they offered each a sacrifice, and it was accepted from the one of them and it was not accepted from the other. (The one) said: I will surely kill you. (The other) answered: Allah accepts only from those who ward off (evil).

Even if you stretch out your hand against me to kill me, I shall not stretch out my hand against you to kill you, indeed! I fear Allah, the Rab of the Worlds.

Indeed! I would rather you should bear the punishment of the sin against me and your own sin and become one of the owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers."  (5:27-29).


Verses 5:27-29 are not about a person killing his victim while the victim willingly offers his life at the mercy of the aggressor as a show of "peace."  This Verse is a condemnation of the act to initiate  aggression.    Hence the victim tells his aggressor that he won't stretch out his hand to kill him because he doesn't want to be the first to attack.   Allah knows best the details, but perhaps the victim may not have had the means to defend himself and so he was killed by his aggressive brother.

Righteousness does not demand that if someone is subjected to aggression, they must surrender to the aggressor instead of defending themselves.  But  righteousness does demand that a man should not take the initiative to carry out aggression even if they know the aggressors are scheming to attack them.  They should be ready to repel the attack, but not begin hostilities so that the responsibility of pre-emptive aggression is squarely on the one who was scheming.   This is the lesson conveyed by Verses 5:27-29. 


Proof of self-defense which is permitted in the Noble Quran.  Fighting must be defensive, not aggressive:

"Permission (to fight) has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged" Holy Quran 22:39

"And fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but be not aggressive. Surely Allah loves not the aggressors."   2:190 

"Allah loves not the public utterance of harsh speech save by one who has been wronged. Allah is ever Hearer, Knower."   4:148

The Noble Quran allows retaliation but also greatly appreciates perseverance. 

"If you punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient."  (16:126).

 Thus, if you retaliate, you are not doing anything wrong and your conduct is within the bounds of right conduct.  If you bear patiently, perhaps the reward from Allah in the Hereafter will be still greater as endurance on the face of injustice requires immense humility, sabr and courage.  But retaliation is completely permissible.

Related post:

Noble Quran allows fighting in self-defense



 100 
 on: November 18, 2018, 01:06:03 am 
Started by guest1162 - Last post by Zeynab


Salaam and peace brother.  I will respond to a few of your points in your last post  of this thread that are quite baffling concerning their imprecision and erroneous estimation.   Also, some of your contents are not connected with the topic of submission and peace so I won't discuss them.   I will only highlight your direct over-emphasis on "peace" because of its incorrect connection with the term "Islam".


 
In Arabic we would say "al-islamu assilmu or al-islamussilmu which means Islam is Silm which means Islam is obtaining Peace.

In all honesty, that's not correct. It's another one of your wishful designs which is NOT supported by the Noble Quran, something we have already clarified umpteen times with solid references from the Quran as well as the Arabic root-word-principle that Islam is submission and salam (the believers' social greeting) is peace.  These are two independent terms that do not interlap regardless of a single root which often has its own set of vocabulary consisting of several words with differing definitions. 


People who are pro-Islam often say it means "peace". Many who are anti-Islam especially for political reasons - they mostly opt for using the word "submission", in a negative sense.

Excuse me, but I view that as a twist which isn't insightful.  You could have been more direct.  If your allusion is that MV peddles what you perceive as "anti-Islam" based on "political reasons," you couldn't be farther from the truth.  Rather, the Noble Quran does not separate religion from practical life which makes the Quran a complete code of conduct.  The examples my colleagues cited on oppression of Muslims were assessed in accordance with Quranic ethics, NOT political indoctrination.  Throughout the annals of history, the helpless have been exploited by the strong & powerful.  That continues until the present, in which the guilty include non-Muslims as well as the so-called Muslims or takfiris (traitors, deviants / hypocrites).  It's the entitlement as well as a moral duty of every sincere believer who cares for humanity to at least raise their voices against such injustices.  "Silence in the face of injustice is complicity with the oppressor."  This was spoken by the late Italian human rights campaigner, Ginetta Sagon.   

Allah Almighty has confirmed that His Final Message is the Sole Criterion (Al-Furqan, refer V.25:1).   Thus, there's no point in reading the Quran by cutting yourself out of the world.   Our worship of Allah and following the ideology He commanded is not just a prayer-time necessity;  it requires adherence throughout our lives.  Allah expects us to follow His rules, to think, reflect and speak accordingly even after we finish our prayer and step out of our prayer mat.

"When you have performed the act of worship, remember Allah, standing, sitting and reclining.  And when you are in safety, observe proper worship. Worship at fixed times has been enjoined on the believers."  (4:103).

"Such as remember Allah, standing, sitting, and reclining, and consider the creation of the heavens and the earth, (and say): Our Rab! You created not this in vain. Glory be to YOU! Preserve us from the doom of Fire." (3:191).



An interesting thing to note is that word 'Sword' is not mentioned even once in Al-Kitab.

No one ever talked of the "sword" in connection with the Quran.    I don't know how or why you concocted such a notion.   Needless to say, submission to Allah does NOT mean picking up a sword.    Islam is NOT the ideology of the sword.   Since we believe that Islam alludes to submission and not peace, so you conclude that it's linked to the "sword."  Despite your astute maneuvers, it looks like your rejection of Islam as submission is driving you into hasty 'black & white' judgments that are astonishing, if not outright ignorant.    We have stated many times that peace is a priority in Islam but it's not an unquestioning or mandatory requirement for all conflicts in all spheres of life because every scenario has a different inside story.  Justice is as important as peace, and application of peace must not override justice.  In regard to Quranic emphasis on justice, take a look at the following Verses which you have conveniently dismissed until now.  Verses:  An-Nisa V.135,   Al-Araf V.29,  Al-Araf V.181,   Al-Maidah V.8,  Al-Maidah V.42, Yunus V.47,  Al-Hadid V.25, and many more.


"Their intention is to resort for judgment to the Taghut (Rebellious/Violent one), though they were ordered to reject him. But Satan's intention is to lead them astray far away (from the right)." 4:60.

 "rebellious / violent one" in brackets as stated in your translation is not from the Quran but the translator's chosen standpoint.  Kindly read the entire Verse carefully.  Taghut here refers to false deities or false judges.  It alludes to the source or authority that decides on the basis of non-Divine Laws or a judicial system that does not acknowledge Allah Almighty as the Final Authority and The Most Supreme.   The reference in this Verse is to those who outwardly profess belief (primarily the hypocrites apparently) in the Final Message, yet they seek to resolve matters via non-Divine sources, and thus they reject the Noble Quran as Al-Furqan;  that's their transgression on crossing limits.  It does not refer to physical violence. Some interpretations of 'taghut' may include the concept of tyranny which refers to moral decadence and may entail despotism.  Hence, one can gauge how flawed your explication is.   Such unsupportive and constricted renderings can be profoundly misguiding for learners.

This is what happens when one reads the Quran with a preconditioned mind focused on their own choices rather than the principles of Allah, without concentrating on the preceding or following Verses of every Ayat they attempt to elucidate.  If you had concentrated on Verses 4:59 and then on 4:61, perhaps you would have assessed more carefully. 

Verse 4:59 says:  "O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if you have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if you are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end."

Verse 4:61 says:  "And when it is said unto them: Come unto that which Allah has revealed and unto the messenger, you see the hypocrites turn from you with aversion."

The clarification is very simple, that is, an allusion to people seeking judicial advise from sources other than the Noble Quran.



In the above Ayas, Allah exposes those who are actually the violence mongers on Earth. These are those who say that we believe in Allah and the Hereafter, however, they do not themselves know that they are deceiving themselves. The love of violence in their hearts is termed as a disease and Ayas of Allah, increase their disease. When they are told, not to do violence on Earth, they say that we are doing it for a noble cause. 

The above commentary referring to V. 2:8-12. 

The "disease" ('marazun' V.2:10 [derivative of marz]) refers to the sickness of disbelief and hypocrisy.  They claimed to be reformers ('muṣ'liḥuna' V.2:11)  but were actually corrupters ('muf'siduna' V.2:12).   Again, muf'siduna (or working corruption) does not exclusively imply bodily or tangible force;  it denotes  double-dealing, underhandedness, subterfuge, secret and illicit conspiracy that's detrimental to some other cause.  Differently put, "mufsiduna" can be explained as mischief-mongering and the expression is all-inclusive and general in which its negative connotation varies depending on the situation or circumstances.



"Those who have been expelled from their circles unjustly,- because of their statement that, "Our Lord is Allah". If it were not that Allah defended one set of people with another, there would surely have been destroyed silos, businesses, prayers, and mosques, in which Allah's name is remembered in abundance. Allah will certainly aid those who aids in His (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will)."   22:40 

Those people who make Allah their Lord (they do not take instructions and orders other than from Allah), they are hated by people bent on violence and war-mongering activities, and they are ousted out of their circles of faith by the disbelievers. The disbelievers label them as an ousted caste. Had Allah not defended the people of the world from these war mongers, violent people, there would have been great destruction in the world. The violent war mongers terrorists would not even leave people going to prayers and mosques, they try to bomb them also. 

Well yes, this is precisely what Sister Ruhi meant when she spoke on the persecution of minority Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar which you discreetly yet irrationally declared as "anti-Islam for political reasons."   So, let's try to grasp this Verse rationally as Allah wants us to.  Verse 22:40 is about the persecution inflicted by disbelievers on Monotheists.   If they attack you, what do you do?  Indeed, first you appeal for peace as that's foremost.  If they agree, then all hostilities must cease and the problem is resolved.  But what if they don't respond to your call for peace and persist in violent persecution?   Allah Almighty answers that as follows: 

"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."  (2:190).

"You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers."  (2:191).

"If they refrain, then ALLAH is Forgiving and Merciful."  (2:192).

"You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship ALLAH freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors."  (2:193).

And ... this is exactly what we signify when we mention peace as the first priority but not a compulsory precondition, in case your opponents persist on violence and harm.



"Enemies of the believers  are the terrorists, the violent war-mongers. So, Allah's order is to terrorize your enemies with great preparations " 

Yes of course, that has been our view from the beginning.   So we agree on that.  Hurray for a change!    Believers are entitled to retaliate against those who terrorize us.  But those who offer peace with sincerity, we accept their offer.  Simple as that.   By the way, this point is outside the topic of 'submission' and 'peace.'

I will stop here with my quotations & responses because the rest of the Verses you quoted deal with other aspects of life.  I am only discussing the issue you initially raised, insinuating peace having precedence over submission to Allah and linking Islam with salam. 

In a nutshell, the Noble Quran is very, very clear about the definition of "Islam" which is undoubtedly submission.  "Salam" is a social greeting of peace incumbent upon believers.


I suggest you keep to your own site as we cannot trust the suitability of all your posts in conformity with Quranic norms and assertions.  As we have observed, you definitely indulge in tampering of Quranic translations to advocate your selected hypothesis.  Your Quranic view appears to have a foundational difference with ours on the basic perception of the term 'Islam' to begin with, which is very significant and cannot be ignored as many other Quranic principles are intertwined with the Quranic assertion of submission (Islam).   Each time such folks put up a post, we are left on the tenterhooks until we have checked the entire piece, as we have no idea what subtle twists their interpretations may take to repudiate a confirmed Quranic stance that may misrepresent MV and confuse the guest readers.   It also gets too time consuming for us as our job isn't editing & moderating the works of others.  I'm simply being honest.

We are not supposed to hamper with Quranic contents for the purpose of making them compatible with our concepts we personally fancy.  Rather, we need to seek compatibility of our own concepts with the Quran in order to stay within Al-Furqan.

I thank you and Allah bless.   As-Salaam Alaikum.
   


   

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