Who is this group?

[Heba E. Husseyn]

 


Just wondering, who is this group in Egypt that calls itself "Ahl-Quran"?  There are so many groups, organizations and sects that claim to be Quran adherents, but in truth they are not at all what they say. 

[Zainab_M]

    Heba


This so-called "Ahl-Quran" group in Egypt is basically the Khalifite cult.  They are no adherents of the Quraan, rather they are the manipulators of the Quraan.  Their goal is to constantly attack Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) by trying to diminish his importance.  That's because they don't believe in the Prophet (pbuh) as the final messenger.  Since they cannot call themselves anti-Prophet, so they call themselves "Ahl-Quran."  In other words, they are using the Quraan to achieve their hidden motive.  Nauzbillah, what accursed people!  A genuine follower of the Quraan alone will never be anti-Prophet as that itself is a violation of the Quraan.  Such people are following the Quraan selectively and not in its entirety.  The Noble Quraan must be accepted and followed in its entirety without intentional misinterpretations which automatically means respecting the Prophet Muhammad and all former Prophets and holding them all in high esteem.  Only then can one be called a Quraan alone adherent. This is a very important commandment of the Quraan. 

This Khalifite cult in Egypt go about saying that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not infallible.  The answer is that whether or not the Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) or any other former Prophets (peace on them all) were infallible or not is upto Allah to decide.  They were all certainly much superior to us as for their quality as human beings.  So we cannot have the face to critisize any of the Prophets.  Moreover, it was Allah (The Highest) who chose Prophet Muhammad as His Messenger.  Therefore, when this Khalifite sect says that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was "not infallible," this means that they are directly casting a doubt on the choice of Allah.  Astaghfarallah. The Khalifite group is NOT "Ahl-Quran."  In truth, they are Ahl-Jahanum.  They are a very very deviant, evil and misguided cult.  Every true believer should seek refuge in the Almighty Allah from such satanic sects.

The following Verse of the Noble Quraan clearly reflects how much Allah (The Highest) dislikes people who hate the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

22:15 (Al-Hajj)
Whoso is wont to think (through envy) that Allah will not give him (Muhammad) victory in the world and the Hereafter (and is enraged at the thought of his victory), let him stretch a rope up to the roof (of his dwelling), and let him hang himself. Then let him see whether his strategy dispelleth that whereat he rageth!.

And as a reminder for all of us, other verses from the Glorious Quraan where the Almighty Allah expresses His love and admiration for the Prophet Muhammad by clearly making him look like a special person are as follows.  All also tells us not to make distinctions between His messengers.

21:34
We appointed immortality for no mortal before thee. What! if thou diest, can they be immortal!

17:1
Glorified be He Who carried His servant by night from the Inviolable Place of Worship to the Far distant place of worship the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, that We might show him of Our tokens! Lo! He, only He, is the Hearer, the Seer. 

3:164
Allah verily hath shown grace to the believers by sending unto them a messenger of their own who reciteth unto them His revelations, and causeth them to grow, and teacheth them the Scripture and wisdom; although before (he came to them) they were in flagrant error.

4:150-152
Lo! those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers, and seek to make distinction between Allah and His messengers, and say: We believe in some and disbelieve in others, and seek to choose a way in between;

Such are disbelievers in truth; and for disbelievers We prepare a shameful doom.

But those who believe in Allah and His messengers and make no distinction between any of them, unto them Allah will give their wages; and Allah was ever Forgiving, Merciful.

33:21
Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.

6:125
Allah knoweth best with whom to place His message.

9:103
Take alms of their wealth, wherewith thou mayst purify them and mayst make them grow, and pray for them. Lo! thy prayer is an assuagement for them. Allah is Hearer, Knower.

9:120
It is not for the townsfolk of Al-Madinah and for those around them of the wandering Arabs so stay behind the messenger of Allah and prefer their lives to his life. That is because neither thirst nor toil nor hunger afflicteth them in the way of Allah, nor step they any step that angereth the disbelievers, nor gain they from the enemy a gain, but a good deed is recorded for them therefor. Lo! Allah loseth not the wages of the good.

10:2
Is it a wonder for mankind that We have inspired a man among them, saying: Warn mankind and bring unto those who believe the good tidings that they have a sure footing with their Lord ?

13:43
They who disbelieve say: Thou art no messenger (of Allah). Say: Allah, and whosoever hath knowledge of the Scripture, is sufficient witness between me and you.

16:44
and We have revealed unto thee the Remembrance that thou mayst explain to mankind that which hath been revealed for them, and that haply they may reflect.

24:63
Make not the calling of the messenger among you as your calling one of another.

33:6
The Prophet is closer to the believers than their selves, ... 

33:7-8
And when We exacted a covenant from the prophets, and from thee (O Muhammad) and from Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus son of Mary. We took from them a solemn covenant;
That He may ask the loyal of their loyalty. And He hath prepared a painful doom for the unfaithful.

33:33
Allah's wish is but to remove uncleanness far from you, O Folk of the Household, and cleanse you with a thorough cleansing.

33:36
And it becometh not a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His messenger have decided an affair (for them), that they should (after that) claim any say in their affair; and whoso is rebellious to Allah and His messenger, he verily goeth astray in error manifest.

33:45-46
O Prophet! Lo! We have sent thee as a witness and a bringer of good tidings and a warner.
And as a summoner unto Allah by His permission, and as a lamp that giveth light.

33:56
Lo! Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation.

33:57
Lo! those who malign Allah and His messenger, Allah hath cursed them in the world and the Hereafter, and hath prepared for them the doom of the disdained.

9:24
Say: If your fathers, and your sons, and your brethren, and your wives, and your tribe, and the wealth ye have acquired, and merchandise for which ye fear that there will no sale, and dwellings ye desire are dearer to you than Allah and His messenger and striving in His way: then wait till Allah bringeth His command to pass. Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

8:20
O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak). 

1. By the morning hours
2. And by the night when it is stillest,
3. Thy Lord hath not forsaken thee nor doth He hate thee,
4. And verily the latter portion will be better for thee than the former,
5. And verily thy Lord will give unto thee so that thou wilt be content.
6. Did He not find thee an orphan and protect (thee) ?
7. Did He not find thee wandering and direct (thee) ?
8. Did He not find thee destitute and enrich (thee) ?
9. Therefor the orphan oppress not,
10. Therefor the beggar drive not away,
11. Therefor of the bounty of thy Lord be thy discourse.  93:1-11

49:2
O ye who believe! Lift not up your voices above the voice of the Prophet, nor shout when speaking to him as ye shout one to another, lest your works be rendered vain while ye perceive not.

33:53
O Ye who believe! Enter not the dwellings of the Prophet for a meal without waiting for the proper time, unless permission be granted you. But if ye are invited, enter, and, when your meal is ended, then disperse. Linger not for conversation. Lo! that would cause annoyance to the Prophet, and he would be shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allah is not shy of the truth. And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain. That is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not for you to cause annoyance to the messenger of Allah, nor that ye should ever marry his wives after him. Lo! that in Allah's sight would be an enormity.

68:2-4
Thou art not, for thy Lord's favour unto thee, a madman.
And lo! thine verily will be a reward unfailing.
And lo! thou art of a tremendous nature.

69:40
That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger.

108:1-3
Lo! We have given thee Abundance;  So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.  Lo! it is thy insulter (and not thou) who is without posterity.

These verses are from Surah Al-Kausar where Allah responds to the ones who belittled the Prophet (s), teased him that since he had no sons thus there would be none to keep up his name after him.  These verses also contain an amazing prophecy for there's hardly anyone in the world today who's name is remembered with greater love, respect and reverence than the Muhammad (s).

[shahidah]

SALAAM


YEAH GO SISTER!

you   tell  them,    you    say     it     well.

 
Shahidah

[Heba E. Husseyn]

Thanks zeyn for this very useful elucidation.  since i put this question I browsed thru a few more of the so-called "Ahl Quran" group sites and i caught their ideology.  They have that rashid khalifite link though they try not to mention that name.  It's their surreptitious manner that makes them dangerous.  Many people might think them to be sincerely devoted Quran followers and listen to them.  The intelligently perceptive ones will kick them off as soon as they grasp their guile but the more naive ones might get trapped in their misguidance.  Warning messages should be posted about such groups in all the real Quran believers' websites.  Much to my surprise most sunni and shiia sites don't seem too pushed about such trouble makers.  Perhaps because they are all discrediting the Prophet (pbuh) in their own different ways.  The champions of R. Khalifa are attacking the Prophet by denying him as the last messenger, and the hadithers are violating the Prophet by allowing many hadith narrations which are insulting to the Prophet to circulate in the hadith collections.  What an unfortunate stage the Muslim world has drifted into 

[Zainab_M]

Well put sister ..

Much to my surprise most sunni and shiia sites don't seem too pushed about such trouble makers.  Perhaps because they are all discrediting the Prophet (pbuh) in their own different ways.  The champions of R. Khalifa are attacking the Prophet by denying him as the last messenger, and the hadithers are violating the Prophet by allowing many hadith narrations which are insulting to the Prophet to circulate in the hadith collections.  What an unfortunate stage the Muslim world has drifted into 

and oh so true!  particularly the sunni hadiths are more insulting .. neck and neck with the khalifites in their own different ways.

[Heba E. Husseyn]

and oh so true!  particularly the sunni hadiths are more insulting .. neck and neck with the khalifites in their own different ways.

Right sis, I've also observed that shiia hadiths, though just as unauthentic an institution, are more mellowed down in tone and less transgressive than the sunni ones. 

and yep (lol) trads being "neck and neck" with khalifites is the exact expression for it.

[Heba E. Husseyn]

Alhumdulilah, I found another very appropriate verse from Surah Al-Hajj.  It was a very just and apt response to those idolaters who tormented the Prophet (pbuh) out of hatred and jealousy in the 7th century, and it is also a very suitably response for those of modern times who call themselves "Quran aloners" yet reject the Prophet (pbuh) and are consumed with hate towards him.

 

Whoso is wont to think (through envy) that Allah will not give him (Muhammad) victory in the world and the Hereafter (and is enraged at the thought of his victory), let him stretch a rope up to the roof (of his dwelling), and let him hang himself. Then let him see whether his strategy dispelleth that whereat he rageth!. 22:15

[N. Truth Seeker]

Thanks very much for this post sister Zeynab. 

I would like to add one more verse in which Allah commands the people of the Prophet's time to obey Allah and His messenger, and as a gesture of respect not to turn away when the messenger (SAW) speaks, or not to be inattentive when he is heard talking.  And now, since the Messenger has passed away, the best way to follow him is to follow the Quran which will always be with us.  All praise be to Allah, the Almighty.

"O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak)."  8:20

[N. Truth Seeker]

I would also like to add that there is another Ahl-Quran in Egypt (rather there was) of Ahmed Subhy Mansour.  From what I've heard, he is different from Khalfite group and in fact he has denounced Rashid Khalifah and his followers.  I would presume that he is basically against the Hadiths and the various distortions brought by the mullahs.  But I need to do more research on him.   

A. S. Mansour was not liked in Egypt because of his Quran alone approach.  I think he now lives in exile in the US.

[Ruhi_Rose]

Very good post.  I don't know how anyone can call themselves a "Quran alone follower" and yet be dismissive about the role of the Prophet (S) in being the vehicle for the final Message of Allah. 

I will copy & paste all these verses and save them.  Thanks everyone.  As-salam Alaykom.

[salaam2011]

Sister can you give some information about Qadyanis and Ahmedais? I have being told they are deviant and along the lines of the cult you mentioned above.

Please share your views.

[salaam2011]

"Allah says the Prophet  (saw) is  sent as a mercy to all mankind". Anyone that speaks ill of the Prophet in my view is a satans slave, an absolute looser.

[salaam2011]

The Ahle Sunnath or Ahle Hadis say that anyone that only follows the Quran is a kaafir. My question to them is that and what about those that follow mad made books and contradictions of the Quran?

Extremism in the Ummah is like cancer, it is killing us. I have no problem with people who say Sunnah comes from Hadith. It is clear that Sunnah comes from the Quran itself.

[Zainab_M]

The Qadianis (or the Ahmadiya group as they are commonly called) are ideologically much the same as the followers of Rashid Khalifa.  The founder of the Qadiani sect was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who belonged to some place called Qadian situated in eastern punjab in india.  This man died in the early 20th century.   He was also a bizarre apostate like Khalifa.  He claimed to be the "promised one."  His theory was awfully blasphemous and weird.  He went around saying that he represented several prophets converging into one.  (AstaghfarAllah!)  How much capacity the human mind has to get misguided!!  Therefore, in defiance to the statement of the Noble Quran, the Qadianis do not believe in Khatam-e-Nabuwat (finality of prophethood).  When Qadianis recite the Shahadah, they say La ilaha ilAllah (as we do) but unlike us, they do not say Muhammed-ar-Rasool Allah. That's because they do not believe Prophet Muhammed to be the Seal of the Prophets even though it has been confirmed in the Noble Quran in Verse 33:40.

The Ahle Sunnath or Ahle Hadis say that anyone that only follows the Quran is a kaafir. My question to them is that and what about those that follow mad made books and contradictions of the Quran?

Extremism in the Ummah is like cancer, it is killing us. I have no problem with people who say Sunnah comes from Hadith. It is clear that Sunnah comes from the Quran itself.

These people who consider rejection of hadith to be "kufr" are blind followers of their imams and sheikhs.  They never seek information from the Quran.  For all advise involving Faith and daily life, they automatically consult their imams who feed them with all sorts of tall stories and lies based on loads of nonsensical ahadith and firebrand fatwas.  These man-written books and theories have nothing to do with the Quran.  But these people hardly know how ignorant they are and how far away from the Quran they have thrown themselves because of the misguidance of their imams and "saints."  While debating with them, they come up with such strange and laughable arguments which leave my head spinning!   They never stop to think that when Allah asks them on the Day of Judgment why they followed these concocted tales for which He had given them no warrant, what will they say?  Indeed they will have no answers. 

I agree that the only authentic sunnah is contained within the Noble Quran itself.

[salaam2011]

Thank you sister Zeynab.  How Imam Shafi....dont worry, its ok. I was just saying how they were killed by their evil leaders because these two great men refused to comprmise their faith and appease their leaders.

Thanks for the infor on Qadyanis and Ahemadias, i thought i knew who these specimens were but just wanted to re-confirm.