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« on: May 22, 2008, 10:21:39 pm »

The following is an illuminating post on the violations of following Hadith with direct references from the Glorious Quraan.  The post has been taken from 'Understanding Islam' written by Brother Dhulqarnain.

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The hadiths are...HARAM.

Salaamun alaikum

The position that the so-called sunnah/hadith of The Prophet, pbuh, is necessarily supplemental/co-equal to the Qur-an is absolutely unfounded and is categorically rejected by Allah, Most High.

As with the bible, there is some wisdom/guidance to be found in the hadiths/sunnah, however, neither of these two sources of wisdom/guidance is free of error, therefore, the hadiths, as with the bible, as bodies of work, are not fully/sufficiently reliable for guidance, hence, the hadiths are not necessary for one to become Muslim, to practice Al-Islam, and to enter Paradise. In addition, whatever truth/wisdom/guidance is found in the hadiths, is already detailed in Al-Qur-an anyway, so, what is the point of referring to them for guidance, it would be redundant?

If you say, as many do,.."take from the hadiths what you think is true and reject what you think is untrue", then, certainly, you must agree that the hadiths cannot be a reliable source of guidance, because anyone can accept or reject as they see fit, hence, the hadiths cannot be a source of tauhid, but only a source of ongoing fitna as they are today. Al-Qur-an, cannot be approached on an accept or reject basis, hence, it is a complete and inerrant source of guidance and tauhid. There are no descrepencies in Al-Qur-an, but there are in the hadiths. Reject that which is a source of doubt (hadith) for that which is not a source of doubt (Al-Qur-an).

Consider the following verses.

39:45. When Allah, alone, is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are filled with disgust; but when those beside Him are mentioned, behold, they are filled with joy!

19:65 The Sustainer of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them! Worship, then, Him alone, and remain steadfast in His worship! Dost thou know any whose name is worthy to be mentioned side by side with His?"

14.52: This is a sufficient exposition for the people and that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is One God and that those possessed of understanding may mind.

Main Entry: ex·po·si·tion
1) : a setting forth of the meaning or purpose (as of a writing) [i.e. hadith] my enclosures in blue..
2 a) :  discourse or an example of it designed to convey information or explain what is difficult to understand

8.64: O Prophet! Allah is sufficient for you and (for) such of the believers as follow you.

9.129: But if they turn back, say: Allah is sufficient for me, there is no god but He; on Him do I rely, and He is the Lord of mighty power.

25.31: "And thus have We made for every prophet an enemy from among the sinners and sufficient is your Lord as a Guide and a Helper.

17.65: Surely (as for) My servants, you have no authority over them; and your Lord is sufficient as a Protector.

39.36: Is not Allah sufficient for His servant? And they seek to frighten you with those besides Him; and whomsoever Allah makes err, there is no guide for him.

39.38: And should you ask them, Who created the heavens and the earth? They would most certainly say: Allah. Say: Have you then considered that what you call upon besides Allah, would they, if Allah desire to afflict me with harm, be the removers of His harm, or (would they), if Allah desire to show me mercy, be the withholders of His mercy? Say: Allah is sufficient for me; on Him do the reliant rely.

25.58: And rely on the Ever-living Who dies not, and celebrate His praise; and Sufficient is He as being aware of the faults of His servants.

65.3: And give him sustenance from whence he thinks not; and whoever trusts in Allah, He is sufficient for him; surely Allah attains His purpose; Allah indeed has appointed a measure for everything.

It is apparent from these above ayats that, Allah, Most High, has made it clear that He is sufficient alone, has detailed everything, needing no assistance, further clarification, etc.

Main Entry: suf·fi·cient
1 a) : enough to meet the needs of a situation or a proposed end.

Main Entry: 1enough
1) occurring in such quantity, quality, or scope as to fully meet demands, needs, or expectations.
synonym see SUFFICIENT 2.1 : in or to a degree or quantity that satisfies or that is sufficient or necessary for satisfaction : SUFFICIENTLY

1) 45: 6. Tilka ayatu Allahi natlooha AAalayka bialhaqqi fabi-ayyi hadeethin baAAda Allahi waayatihi yu/minoona

45: 6. Such are the Signs of Allah, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what exposition will they believe after Allah and His Signs?

2) 7:185 . Awalam yanthuroo fee malakooti alssamawati waal-ardi wama khalaqa Allahu min shay-in waan AAasa an yakoona qadi iqtaraba ajaluhum fabi-ayyi hadeethin baAAdahu yu/minoona.

7:185. Do they see nothing in the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and all that Allah hath created? (Do they not see) that it may well be that their terms is nigh drawing to an end? In what message after this will they then believe?

3) 77:50. Fabi-ayyi hadeethin baAAdahu yu/minoona

77:50. Then what Message, after that, will they believe in?

4) 39:23. Allahu nazzala ahsana alhadeethi kitaban mutashabihan mathaniya taqshaAAirru minhu juloodu allatheena yakhshawna rabbahum thumma taleenu julooduhum waquloobuhum ila thikri Allahi thalika huda Allahi yahdee bihi man yashao waman yudlili Allahu fama lahu min hadin

39:23. Allah has revealed (from time to time) the most beautiful Message in the form of a Book, consistent with itself, (yet) repeating (its teaching in various aspects): the skins of those who fear their Lord tremble thereat; then their skins and their hearts do soften to the remembrance of Allah. Such is the guidance of Allah. He guides therewith whom He pleases, but such as Allah leaves to stray, can have none to guide.

5) 31:6. Wamina alnnasi man yashtaree lahwa alhadeethi liyudilla AAan sabeeli Allahi bighayri AAilmin wayattakhithaha huzuwan ola-ika lahum AAathabun muheenun

31:6. But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a humiliating Chastisement.

6) 52:34. Falya/too bihadeethin mithlihi in kanoo sadiqeena

52:34. Let them then produce a saying like unto it,- If (it be) they speak the truth!

Clearly, no hadith, other than that of Allah's, Qur-an Karriem, is authorized by Him. What is there to question after this? Now, I ask you, please post from the Qur-an any verse which contradicts the above ayats/verses, thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 10:30:30 pm »

 salamem

This is a great post, and it is true, Alhamdulillaah! The so-called ahadiyth of the prophet, according to the Quraan, is haraam, and it's definately not needed to be used alongside or in place of the actual words of Allah. Many thanks for shedding light on this. The article is a very good one. Salaam...
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