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« on: June 22, 2008, 10:26:26 pm »

Peace be to you sister Rose,

I do not doubt your sincerity at all, nor sister Zeynab's or brother Persian's. I absolutely see all the Verses which you refered to in the Qur'an. and like I say the Verses can be split into two dimensions, essentially Verses that are refering to the concept of absolute destiny and other are Verses which speak in a manner indicating that it is upto man to determine his own fate in the Hereafter. Its a matter of reconciling the two.

"From the illuminating facts detailed in the Quran, I can't possibly accept that the creation of human desires, feelings, emotions etc. is decided by Allah at random just as a child playing with barbie dolls would decide the actions of their toys that are not founded on the principles of reason, cause and purpose."

Since we cannot say Allah is bound by time, we cant say it is decided at random as time passes. To Him, it may be that everything has happened and its over? If we are to say it is not Allah who controls (ie. created) every single thought, motivation, emotion and action, then who does? Who is the originator of these emotions?

Yet we are bound by the illusion of worldly realm thinking we can determine our own future, in truth, we cant. But Allah wishes it to be that way, that is why we have Verses of the other dimension telling us that life is a test and what we do determines our fate in the Hereafter, these Verses enable us to live in our worldly realm. Allah tells us to strive, yet only those whom he wishes for them to strive will strive. To us it feels like we have an option, and we are right to feel that way as this is the realm we are created in (but in the sight of Allah its different).

Why did Allah choose to pre-set every move of ours and everything we do and yet make us feel like we are leading our lives to achieve something? Only He knows. But what we do know is He exist and we have no option but to submit to Him by trying to follow the path shown by religion, yet whatever we do is preordained. There reaches a point we have to leave it to Allah and just contrinue worshipping Him.

peace.
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