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« on: July 07, 2008, 03:59:37 am »

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Reflections on the Glorious Quran

Scriptures of the People of the Book have been changed by them.  Allah states this in the following verses:

And lo! there is a party of them who distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture. And they say: It is from Allah, when it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly. (3:78)

It is not (possible) for any human being unto whom Allah had given the Scripture and wisdom and the prophethood that he should afterwards have said unto mankind: Be slaves of me instead of Allah; but (what he said was): Be ye faithful servants of the Lord by virtue of your constant teaching of the Scripture and of your constant study thereof. (3:79)

And he commanded you not that ye should take the angels and the prophets for lords. Would he command you to disbelieve after ye had surrendered (to Allah) ? (3:80)
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 03:03:16 am »

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Reflections on the Glorious Quran

Scriptures of the People of the Book have been changed by them.  Allah states this in the following verses:

And lo! there is a party of them who distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture. And they say: It is from Allah, when it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly. (3:78)

Would like to add on this..

This is also a stern warning for followers of Hadith Qudsis, and the Hadith adherents and modernists who intentionally write incorrect English translations of the Quran.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2009, 07:29:24 pm »

Sister,

I would like to ask you a question, and I mean no disrespect.

We know from al-Kitab previous peoples corrupted the messages, the "scriptures" they had been given. Here then is my question:

WHAT were these "previous scriptures," these previous messages? Were they the Bible, as MOST Muslims believe? I do not believe so.

Allah states ALL messengers/prophets were given the same message, the Book. There is only one Book. Al-Kitab. Assuming they were given the Book, pretty much the same Book we have, and they corrupted this, would not these corruptions present themselves as the Bible?

Food for thought.

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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2009, 01:41:54 am »

You asked me this question at Facebook more than once and I responded to it more than once.  You did not reply to my second response at FB and now you jump in here and ask the same query.  I will quote that same response of mine from FB over here.  Though really very simple, I doubt if it'll ever get into your thick head!   Nonetheless, I'll quote it.

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Yes, it certainly means that all former Prophets were given the same basic Message by God Almighty which were later corrupted or changed by the people of those communities. That's what I meant when I mentioned that each Divine Scripture has been a confirmation (or revival) of the former one which had lost ... See Moreits originality. And when a Divine Scripture no longer remains original, it loses it's goal & purpose in the Sight of Allah. Therfore yes, all former Prophets (peace on them) were given Books with the same basic principles & instructions as the Quran which was given to Prophet Muhammad (peace & blessings on him). Whether or not those former Books were a "thinner" or thicker version of the Quran is known to Allah alone. We cannot confirm matters of which we have no knowledge, and there are many aspects of which we don't and cannot have any information till the Day of Ressurection, when He will inform us of whatever He wills. In this regard, it's best to leave the Unseen alone.

I suppose a substantial amount of confusion also arises when folks use different terminlogies for similar things or aspects. I think, when you say "Al-Kitab" you mean the Quran. To be honest, I'm not an expert in the analysis and title-meanings of the former scriptures. The dictionary meaning of the term "Taurah" or "Torah" is 'law.' As far as I know, whichever way you write it or pronounce it makes little difference. The former is Arabic while the latter is Hebrew. The Chritian holy book at present has more than 50 versions. The Jewish book also has several versions. From what I hear & see, the Bible has its own Old & New Testaments, and the Jewish scriptures too are referred to as the Old Testament. Total mess! But regardless of the labels, titles and the meanings these titles carry, the bottom line is that they aren't original. That's where a truth seeker's trust gets shattered. And that's the reason for my distrust of the Hadith literature because it's the same stuff as the former altered scriptures. And again, there are certain contents today in the holy books of the Christian and Jews that tally with some of the information in the Quran, yet this is no proof that those conforming contents in their scriptures are original.
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There are some people who take delight in arguing only for the heck of it.  In our native language we call such ones 'Hujjaati' or 'Bokhraat.'   You are a perfect example.
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