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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2015, 07:58:03 pm »

Walaikum As-Salam brother Mushtaq.   Many thanks for dropping by after a long time. 

Presuming that you want to further elucidate the proofs of concept in regard to V.65:4 that does not refer to "underage marriage,"  you're welcomed to go ahead.

As you know, ffi is a deeply and shamelessly kuffar forum.  As you would also understand, we do not allow support of corrupted and rogue forums like ffi (run by kafir a.sina) or answering Islam (run by another similar kafir sam shamoun) over here.  Just mentioning this for purposes of clarification.

I wouldn't know in what context ffi talked of amenorrhœa.  They must have taken it up inadvertently otherwise kufaar always try to intentionally conceal citations of various scientific fields that are clearly illuminated in the Noble Quran. 

To briefly add one more point.  That particular part of V.65:4 vividly points to the female biological condition today known as amenorrhœa, which isn't as rare as some may presume.   All essential details are covered in our thread (presuming that you've already gone through them).  Whether it be primary or secondary isn't an issue to debate about.  Both can be included in the allusion in V.65:4.  As you might already know, primary amenorrhoea is absense of menstruation because of developmental reasons like congenital absence of uterus, defective ovaries etc.   Secondary amenorrhoea is the interruption or complete ceasing of normal menstrual cycles at any period of life prior to the age of 40, until which normal menopause seldom occurs.  The reason for this is hormonal disturbances which can occur thru various stimulating factors, internal as well as external ... though hormonal abnormality can also occur congenitally, categorizing the condition as primary amenorrhoea.  Thus, V.65:4 could include any category of amenorrhoea. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2015, 08:08:48 pm »

For information, we have started a new sub-board under our main Quran board at the following link where we rebuff the baseless accusations by the kufar on the Noble Quran by presenting specific scientific reasons as well as common sense (both absent in the kufar).  Feel free to read and post new write-ups in the link below and send them around using the "send this topic" button.

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?board=146.0
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2015, 11:58:45 pm »

Walaikum Salaam brother Pervez Mushtaq. 

I think Sister Heba has taken care of your post with the necessary info.




since i am given a basic membership here and i cannot contact Admin


Just to inform you on this point, actually this is an automatic procedure that applies to everyone who signs up.  Option for sending messages to MV team or to other registered members comes into effect when one becomes a 'senior member' which too comes into effect automatically as soon as a member's total post count reaches 200 .. or probably 150. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2015, 01:54:08 pm »

For information, we have started a new sub-board under our main Quran board at the following link where we rebuff the baseless accusations by the kufar on the Noble Quran by presenting specific scientific reasons as well as common sense (both absent in the kufar).  Feel free to read and post new write-ups in the link below and send them around using the "send this topic" button.

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?board=146.0

Thank You Sr Heba
insah ALLAH i will open a new topic in that section


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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2015, 02:24:19 pm »

Walaikum Salaam brother Pervez Mushtaq. 

......Just to inform you on this point, actually this is an automatic procedure that applies to everyone who signs up.  Option for sending messages to MV team or to other registered members comes into effect when one becomes a 'senior member' which too comes into effect automatically as soon as a member's total post count reaches 200 .. or probably 150. 


 Smiley seems it will take about couple of years for me to become a complete member here
Btw i believe in quality in the posts rather that quantity
any way ,if  someone  pays for my time then i may complete your target in couple of months

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2015, 08:20:23 pm »

It isn't about 'quantity.'  We strictly adhere to quality which I thought you must have already sensed by now. This rule has a different purpose.  Many individuals in the past signed up with seemingly acceptable intros and then began sending aggressive private messages to team members.  Some decent folks who didn't want to publicize their questioning of tainted ahadith narrations would ask questions behind the veil rather than on the public board.  We needed to discourage all of that.  I'm not saying we don't trust you.  But unfortunately we have no way of customizing that option.  Either it's for all or for none. 


Btw, number of post counts include comments/replies to existing posts as well.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2015, 05:46:58 am »

It isn't about 'quantity.'  We strictly adhere to quality which I thought you must have already sensed by now. This rule has a different purpose.  Many individuals in the past signed up with seemingly acceptable intros and then began sending aggressive private messages to team members.  Some decent folks who didn't want to publicize their questioning of tainted ahadith narrations would ask questions behind the veil rather than on the public board.  We needed to discourage all of that.  I'm not saying we don't trust you.  But unfortunately we have no way of customizing that option.  Either it's for all or for none. 


Btw, number of post counts include comments/replies to existing posts as well.


I understand  Sr
rules are rules
As a Muslim i will abide all the rules of this forum ,  Insha ALLAH


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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2015, 01:21:50 am »

As a matter of fact we are trying to reduce quantity of posts in our forum Smiley  As can be seen, there are already more than 15,000 posts despite keeping it a read-only board primarily.   To emphasize more on the Noble Quran, we discontinued a couple of boards like health & wellness and humor and shortened the political board by diverting many political articles on current events to our affiliate blog Zainab's Lounge. 

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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2015, 05:29:36 am »

For information, we have started a new sub-board under our main Quran board at the following link where we rebuff the baseless accusations by the kufar on the Noble Quran by presenting specific scientific reasons as well as common sense (both absent in the kufar).  Feel free to read and post new write-ups in the link below and send them around using the "send this topic" button.

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?board=146.0

Thank You Sr Heba
insah ALLAH i will open a new topic in that section


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I have started a new topic
hope you will find interesting

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=4553.0

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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2016, 04:40:35 am »

  Moreover, verse 4:6 as follows: "Prove orphans till they reach the marriageable age; then, if ye find them of sound judgment, deliver over unto them their fortune;" is further proof that marriage for both genders must take place after adulthood.

Absolutely right.  V.4:6 is another evidence that marriage must take place in adulthood .. at least 16 or 17 years .. even if adulthood back in those days wasn't 18 or 21.  The Quranic expressions "marriageable age" along with "sound judgment" is a clear reference to a grown up person.  A person aged 6 or 9 or 12 is a child and cannot possibly be considered of sound judgment.  And delivering up their assets to them at that age would be simply absurd. 
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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2022, 04:06:33 pm »



Salam again to all.  Returning here after years!   Came across one very relevant point pertaining to this topic which needs to be stated.

Companionship equal or similar in age is an ideal upheld in the Noble Quran.  Read Surah Al Waqiah V.56:36-37 where The Almighty describes the reward of men and women in Paradise as companions, He says:   
"fajaʿalnāhunna ʿuruban atrāban"  which translates as  ..

"And We have made them virgins,
Devoted, equal in age."  (56:36-37)

When Allah Almighty highlights a particular aspect that will happen in Paradise as recompense, obviously He will never want the opposite of that happening in earthly life.  It's that simple. 

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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2022, 04:36:56 pm »



Walaikum Salaam.   Excellent point Sister Heba.  I hadn't thought of this because some translations like Pickthall's have translated the word "atrāban" as friends instead of 'equal in age.'  But after reading this, I checked it more thoroughly.  It does certainly refer to equal of age.

Thank you Sister.    Alhumdulilah. 

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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2022, 04:38:28 pm »



You're welcome Sister.  Yes, I understand, the confusion is often caused because of inaccurate translations.
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