The Salaf Ruling on Music .. Ridiculous!
muslima:
wsalam .
very appreciating efforts sister zeynab may Allah bless u.
:o music is sinful shocking ! when Allah's commandments are so subtle and cleare then how can these mischief makers have made our beautiful religion so complicated ? ^:( I am unable to understand why they just pick once verse to misguide us ques
Say: My Lord forbiddeth only indecencies, such of them as are apparent and such as are within, and sin and wrongful oppression, and that ye associate with Allah that for which no warrant hath been revealed, and that ye tell concerning Allah that which ye know not..7:33
whatever they want is forbidden BUT what Allah forbidden they make it lawful ? that's the mock .my question is why ? how can ulma's declare music as Fahashi or haram ??
when the original fahashi's and haram's (zina,muta ,urfi etc are not fahashi ,not haram ,not sin to them )?
changes in Divine law, Death penalty of zina only for women ,unquranic triple divorce law is NOT A SIN ??
tempering of quran verses,misinterpretation is not sin ??
^:(
actually these verse of surah luqman 31:6 to 7 are for them .These imams mislead ummah from Allah's way without knowledge
And of mankind is he who payeth for mere pastime of discourse, that he may mislead from Allah's way without knowledge, and maketh it the butt of mockery. For such there is a shameful doom.31:6
And when Our revelations are recited unto him he turneth away in pride as if he heard them not, as if there were a deafness in his ears. So give him tidings of a painful doom.31:7
those who purchase ( scholar's and ulma's whos rejecting the Quran on behalf of men written books )
forbidden and haram..
right interpretation of ' idle tales '(entire hadith collection , their own tales books ,men so-called imam made tafsir's)
Ruhi_Rose:
Exactly sister. Idle tales and chinese whispers .. those are the contents of hadith. Total bullshit. I've heard of hardline wababs who have even killed people for listening to music. In Afghanistan, talibans have raided wedding parties and beheaded people for playing folk-music or folk-songs during weddings. They conveniently forget that murdering innocent people is one of the biggest Haram acts according to the Noble Quran. You're so correct, what the Noble Quran forbids as Haram, the people make it Halal. And what's not Haram according to Allah, is made Haram by these people. They think that they will preside and make decisions on the Day of Judgment. Allah will deal with these quacks.
N. Truth Seeker:
As-Salam Alaiykum, everyone. Sister Muslima must have found my pro-hadith comments confusing. lol .. so I thought it's better to put up a clarification. When I joined as member of MV seven years ago, I was still studying hadith and was 50/50 whether or not to accept it. A few hadiths sounded okay but many more were so bad, and I kept asking myself how can majority run after hadith if it's so bad. Maybe there is something hidden which is good. But as time went by and I read & researched more, I knew the majority was wrong and MV was right :D That's when I officially told my Hadithist group "I'm quitting your group, Hadith is Haram." And that's when I too was made a member of MV Team with the others :D Alhumdulilah. May Allah guide all of us. The more I research Hadith, the more I realize how terribly Haram it is.
Ruhi_Rose:
Ahaa ha ha !! :D :D Brother PT, no problem. We have all been through that stage. The fart of Hadith is blown so much in the air by the mainstream that we all get to smell it. When we see the big crowd following it, we think to ourselves "what's the secret behind this following?" And then, when we research it to find answers, we discover that it's a big bundle of horse-crap. That's why the imams and ulemas always dissuade us from researching hadith. They know that once we start scrutinizing it ourselves, we will find out the truth and kick it off .. just as you did and we all did. I kicked off Hadith about 9 years ago. So you are only 2 years behind me. That's all ;D Well done my brother and thanks for being a great MV team member. :D :D
N. Truth Seeker:
lol ,, absolutely right.
Quote from: Ruhi_Rose on August 29, 2012, 06:16:06 pm
That's why the imams and ulemas always dissuade us from researching hadith. They know that once we start scrutinizing it ourselves, we will find out the truth and kick it off .. just as you did and we all did. I kicked off Hadith about 9 years ago. So you are only 2 years behind me. That's all ;D Well done my brother and thanks for being a great MV team member. :D :D[/size][/font]
This is precisely what happened in my case too. When I was reading the hadiths, I had those "wait a minute" moments so often because of the numerous absurdities mentioned in those narrations that I told my hadithist friends I needed to find out the hadith history and think more because there are too many senseless things in it. When I said that, they pounced upon me saying "no no, you are not supposed to make those findings on your own. you must consult a scholar." But thank Allah I had the sense to ignore their pleas and I went ahead with my research on my own.
Quote from: Ruhi_Rose on August 29, 2012, 06:16:06 pm
The fart of Hadith is blown so much in the air by the mainstream that we all get to smell it.
haah hah haa ha ;D ;D spot on!
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