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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2013, 08:04:20 pm »

Yahya Harun also believes in a similar (or same) concept, that is, God being everywhere is also inside man and therefore man can worship himself instead of God.   This very corrupt concept of shirk is called pantheism.  Perhaps "hulul" is the same, is it?

Salaam,

I know that hulul is the same as Wahdatul Wujud (the belief that there is nothing but God), but hulul can be more specific; such as God appearing as someone or something. People who believe in Wahdatul Wujud don't worship themselves like pantheists though. Because Panteism is different from Wahdatul Wujud, I don't know much about pantheism except that they don't believe in a powerful God who has a will or any power to create anything. Sorry for the poor explanation but sometimes the correct English word doesn't occur to me and I use simpler words to describe things. It's a difficult subject with so many different beliefs, rituals and practices, there is also "Wahdatul Ittihad, but I don't remember what that was... Not that we are missing out on something....
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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2013, 08:10:24 pm »

Shocked


Thanks bro for this info rumi's work is shocking it showed that he was sick .such a disaster a crook is a title holder of maulana his shaitani ,ideas ,senseless imaginations and ridicules literature accepted by readers i am surprised truly passion of his poetry is poison for believer

 btw what is hulul ? concept of saint's  ??

Salaam sister muslima, please read my reply to sister Heba above. I'm of course not an expert on paganistic beliefs and ritiuals but I read something about it in a book a few years ago. Sofis have so many different beliefs and rituals, it's impossible to discuss all of them.. if you want to learn more about these things, you can search "Tasawwuf" or Sufis/Sufism. All these crazy kafir/mushrik beliefs came from Iranian Zoroastrianism, Greek paganism, Turkish Shamanism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc....
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2013, 12:02:43 am »

Wa'salam.  Thanks for the feedback brother.  I follow it now.  Moreover you may also like to check this 7-minute video by Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal on Harun Yahya's pantheism.

http://www.tubeislam.com/video/7576/Beware-of-Harun-Yahya--By-Dr-Abu-Ameenah-Bilal 

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All these crazy kafir/mushrik beliefs came from Iranian Zoroastrianism, Greek paganism, Turkish Shamanism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc....

Yes, very true .... these are the origins of many kafir beliefs that have infiltrated into various so-called Muslim sects today.   Return to those same days of Ignorance.
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2013, 05:12:39 am »



Salaam sister muslima, please read my reply to sister Heba above. I'm of course not an expert on paganistic beliefs and ritiuals but I read something about it in a book a few years ago. Sofis have so many different beliefs and rituals, it's impossible to discuss all of them.. if you want to learn more about these things, you can search "Tasawwuf" or Sufis/Sufism. All these crazy kafir/mushrik beliefs came from Iranian Zoroastrianism, Greek paganism, Turkish Shamanism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc....



wsalam thnx bro for  ur feedback This word sounds weird to me.  correct okay i got it  the nonsense of tasawwuf and myth of crook, sufi saints.
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2013, 05:19:13 am »

 salamem sis

jazak Allah kahir many thanx  for very useful lecture inshAllah i will send it around  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2013, 02:13:35 pm »

Yes sister Muslima, it will a good idea to send around this video.  Though I'm not particularly a fan of Dr. Abu Ameena Bilal either as he is a staunch Hadither, yet what he said & explained about Harun Yahya is very true which people must know.

Unfortunately misguidance nowadays has quite a variety.  First the followers of grossly false ahadith, then the kuffar sufis with all sorts of mushrikeen concepts, and then the panthiests.  All of these folks claim to be devout believers but a slightly closer look provides ample evidence that they are far from what they claim.  Therefore one really needs to be careful.  As I've always upheld, the best way to safeguard ourselves is to be firmly focused on the Quran only and completely disregard everything else, no matter how the society reacts.  Loyalty to Allah is the only consideration for success in the Hereafter.
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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2013, 06:11:24 pm »



Therefore one really needs to be careful.  As I've always upheld, the best way to safeguard ourselves is to be firmly focused on the Quran only and completely disregard everything else, no matter how the society reacts.  Loyalty to Allah is the only consideration for success in the Hereafter.



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I really appreciate ur response  bunch of thanks for ur time sis heba may Allah accept ur devotion and efforts thanks my sister for very important point i agree with u . I will be careful emmm okay i will add ur comments ,u reply to me with video it would be better .. Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2013, 11:53:13 pm »

Damn this bloody Rumi, he was a sick man, among the criminals distorting Islam.
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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2013, 05:54:12 pm »

Damn this bloody Rumi, he was a sick man, among the criminals distorting Islam.

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How do Iranians view him?
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2013, 10:01:53 pm »

Walaykum As-salam

We don't stay in Iran, only visit occasionally.  Moreover, my family - parents, siblings, me - follow only the Qur'an so we don't blend too well with mainstream Iranians on matters of religion and spirituality.  Like the Sunnis, Shiias also follow lots of guesswork.  I haven't spoken to any of them on the issue of poetry & literature.  But I have a hunch that many of them would support Rumi and react negatively to any criticism including the exposure of this truth.  Even after the revolution which I fully support as it has a very rational and pragmatic foundation, many Iranians still tend to think that ancient traditions and cultural heritage precede faith.  For example, I've spoken to some against the practice of celebrating nauroz which is definitely an un-Islamic custom, but I could never get it across to them. 
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« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2013, 01:46:12 am »

Something interesting.  I put this up on my facebook note and blog, quoting that entire piece of information posted by brother Ozcan (starting from Rumi's brief biography and all his heretic poems with comments from his banned Divan) as "by brother ozcan - contributor Muslim Villa." 

In Facebook, except for a Sunni Muslim from Malaysia and a Shiia Muslim from Lebanon, no one was ready to accept it.  These included Pakistanis and Afghanis.  Afghanis say they enjoy reading Rumi's poems translated in their local Dari language.  They came up with all sorts of excuses to defend Rumi and just wouldn't look at his deeply heretic side .. like being on denial of the truth.  Also, a couple of Turks gave the thumbs to the comments of these Rumi supporters but they didn't say anything themselves.   However, no one from Iran put up any comments at all - neither showing their support nor rejection.

In my blog, one reader supported it.  Another one who came from facebook expressed his shock and dismay but didn't reject it.  You can see it in the following link.  Scroll down and read the second-last comment by a reader called "noorul." 
http://zainabslounge.blogspot.ca/2013/04/the-forbidden-rumi-jalaluddin-rumi.html?showComment=1366090732170#c7261055940687508102
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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2013, 06:32:56 pm »

Thank you sister Zeynab, that is interesting. On youtube I recently saw a video where 'Muslims' in Pakistan were offering salat to their sheikh, I couldn't believe my eyes.
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« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2013, 10:25:53 pm »

....... On youtube I recently saw a video where 'Muslims' in Pakistan were offering salat to their sheikh, I couldn't believe my eyes.

That's very common in Pakistan, particularly the rural areas.  They refer to these sheiks as "peers" (spiritual leaders/sufis).  It's not uncommon to see them lie flat on the ground as a gesture of sajood before these peers and sufis.  At least once a week scores of disciples congregate in the homes of their respective peers who preside over them sitting on a dais predicting future events and personal advise, which is of course always a crock of shit with NO bearing on the truth.   The graves of peers are placed inside closed structures like rooms with carpets, electric lights and fans.  Visitors of these graves come with 'gifts' of sweets and fruits, placing them before the graves.  While leaving, they don't turn around and walk out the normal way.  They walk with backward steps up to the door so that their backs don't face the grave (taken as a sign of disrespect to the dead peer). They turn around and walk normally after they reach the door.  The entire scenario is sickening.  In particular, the indigenous people of the southern Pakistani province of Sindh are complete heretics and Muslims only by name.  They perform sajood even before their feudal lords and political leaders.  Absolutely deplorable!  No matter how much a heretical poet is exposed to them, they will never open their eyes.   As brother PT suggested, it basically arises from the concept of putting old traditions & culture ahead of faith.  Thus, Allah Almighty refers to such a mindset as being deaf, dumb and blind like the cattle, nay worse.  It doesn't mean Allah is cursing the cattle or any other animals.  They are inherently meant to have a kind of docility as ordained by Allah, but when humans who are granted a much superior mind show similar signs of apathy indicates gross misguidance and the abandoning of Monotheism. 
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« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2016, 02:47:21 am »

It's amazing the hard line ignorance some people carry in the name of ""appreciating poetry"" which consequently is equated with "intellectualism." 

Here is another line from one of Rumi's works quoted by someone at Facebook who obviously appreciates it.  Read this line and it literally stinks of waywardness and kufr.  Yet dark minds don't get it and keep repeating "MashAllah" like a broken record.

"All day I think about it, then at night I say it. Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing? I have no idea. My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there. Rumi" 

Will any human being who has embraced Tawheed (Monotheism), has love of Allah The One and Only ever write this way?  All those aspects on which Rumi has flatly cast doubts have been confirmed and articulately explained in the Noble Quran leaving no room for uncertainties or confusion.  Unfortunately Rumi had no faith in The Almighty, not even the slightest of respect for Him.

Rumi pimps and cheerleaders try to cover up his depravity with those usual platitudes ... ""oh, you don't understand him .. he doesn't mean what you are thinking ... he was a profound thinker .. his thoughts went deep in the remembrance of God ....."" and so on.  These intellectual frauds who try to dupe others are only duping themselves as did Rumi.
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"All day I think about it, then at night I say it. Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing? I have no idea. My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there. Rumi" 

The Glorious Quran gives humanity the entire code of life but Rumi doesn't know what he's "supposed to be doing?"  Wallahi idiot.   And when he says his "soul is from elsewhere," his cheap advocates will say he means the miracles of Allah.  But to me it seems Rumi is spinning his words so readers will think he is talking about Allah but actually he means something different.   

The tomb of this filthy reprobate named Jalaluddin Rumi ought to be sprinkled with gutter water.  Only Allah knows how many people this man has misguided and is continuing to misguide.
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