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« on: December 29, 2008, 09:20:31 pm »

Allah's Punishment for Adultery is not Stoning to Death

The Believers are united by their strong faith in Allah and behave in the best manner possible. The Qur'an governs their behavior. In a community of true believers, if lewd behavior is proven between two people, they should be appropriately punished. However, instead of following the Qur'an, so-called Muslims have introduced a different punishment.

The Qur'an has paved the way for those who love Allah and desire the paradise of Allah. One aspect which the Qur'an addresses for believers is their conduct among themselves. Allah sets high moral standards for male and female believers in their interaction with one another.

In the Qur'an, an official marriage is the only way a man and woman can begin a relationship. Marriages are based on a firm covenant between Allah and the couple. It provides the best foundation for a happy relationship as it is based on devotion to Allah. It therefore, provides the best platform for children to be raised in. Among disbelievers, one can observe a depressing scene such as pregnant women being abandoned by their 'boyfriends'. Or young girls getting pregnant and seeking abortions.

Allah strongly prohibits sex outside of marriage. Allah states that believers must not come near adultery or fornication and they must also not allow it to breed in a society of believers. It is for these reasons, Allah states the following:

"This is a chapter We have sent down and made obligatory. We have sent down understandable revelations in it so that you may take heed: strike the male and the female adulterers and fornicators (الزانية والزاني) one hundred times. Do not let compassion for them keep you from carrying out Allah's law if you believe in Allah and the Last Day - and ensure a group of believers witnesses the punishment." (Qur'an 24:2)

In this verse, Allah clearly defines an earthly punishment for the above sinners - one hundred strikes. The believers listen to Allah and obey Him. However, so-called followers of the Qur'an, disguised believers, have come up with a teaching against the the Qur'an. The above Verse defines the punishment for both adulterers and fornicators, the Arabic words used covers both. The punishment they propose is one hundred strikes for the fornicator, but killing the adulterer by stoning him or her to death. This punishment has not been prescribed anywhere in the Qur'an.

Although these propagators could not change the physical words of the Qur'an, they try their best to prove to their followers that their interpolations are true. One wonders, why do they do such a thing if they are believers and are reading the Qur'an to follow it? The answer is their actual lack of faith and sincerity. This group of people do not carry the intention to submit to Allah when reading the Qur'an, but to use the Qur'an to help mould a preconceived religion. Such outright violations are iced over in front of people with sugary words such as how glorious and of a high status the Qur'an is, when truly in their hearts, they do not comprehend the Verses.

A true believer is aware of such people. These people show themselves to be devout Muslims yet, they twist Allah's scripture without hesitancy. One can never be a true believer, if he is a distorter of Allah's scripture. A person is also not a true believer if he or she is not troubled when hearing or reading claims that are against the Qur'an, and who pretends not to see contradictory claims made against the Qur'an. This is because, when one is a real believer, he or she truly loves and obeys Allah. This is reflected in their desire to follow the words of Allah as has been revealed to be followed and they acknowledge when they see twisted claims contrary to Quranic teachings. Only a lack of faith, love and fear of Allah, can lead people to being careless about the Qur'an, or to even invent teachings which are outright against the Quranic teachings, as has been done in this case. Allah is fully aware of all interpolators, no matter much how much they deceive the majority:

"Among them is a group who distort the Book with their tongues so that you think it is from the Book when it is not from the Book. They say, 'it is from Allah', but it is not from Allah. They tell a lie against Allah and they know it." (Qur'an 3:78)

Initially, they deceive their followers that the Qur'an is incomplete and other books are needed. Once they have gained the license to add to the guidance of the Qur'an, they interpolate using their mouths and their own books. Allah reprehends them and their blind followers in the following Verse::

"What is wrong with you? How do you make your judgments? Do you have another Book which you study? In which you find whatever you wish to find? Have you taken a pledge from Us up until the Day of Judgments that you will get your way in the judgments you make?" - (Qur'an 68:35-39)  

In conclusion, stoning to death does not have any basis in the true religion of Allah. It does not have any origin in the Qur'an. True believers who are on the guided path of Allah, do not uphold this outright violation against the Qur'an.

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 06:17:57 am »

Gorgeous article brother, MaashAllah.  You know brother, this ummah, especially the male members, just don't realize the gravity of the sin of adultery and fornication.  You'll be surprised that many men actually believe that sexual immorality is a much bigger sin for women than men.  Some idiots also think that as long as their sexual immorality involves a non-Muslim woman, it's acceptable.  And of course, as you so correctly described, in the West and other non-Muslim societies sexual permissiveness has ruined their culture and community.  The number of children that exist who are brought up by single mothers born out of 'one night stands' are countless.  In most cases the mothers aren't able to care for them for long and when these kids are barely 13 or 14, they usually leave home.  You can then imagine what happens.  And this practice becomes a vicious cycle.   


"One wonders, why do they do such a thing if they are believers and are reading the Qur'an to follow it? The answer is their actual lack of faith and sincerity."

Actually brother, there are quite a few who do know that they are going against the Quraan by bringing the rule of stoning.  Yet they've purposely come up with these misinterpretations to keep it compatible with Hadith.  This law of stoning is all over Sahih al-Bukhari and other collections.  They've happily borrowed it from the altered Bible and Torah.  The originator of this law were the altered Old and New Testament to start with. 

Thank you for quoting such lovely verses from the Book of Allah.  I don't know how these people don't get moved and feel guilty about their actions after reading these breathtaking verses.

Some time ago I'd written on this topic by comparing and analysing the misinterpretation of the "scholars."  In this thread you'll also find the lines from the altered Bible stating this punishment which is the source of Hadith and which the "scholars and ulemas" support.  I recall, when I took up this point at the IslamOnline forum, one hell of a fight arose from the blue.  I've also posted that link.

Rajam is not the punishment for adultery in the Quraan  
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 10:47:53 pm »

Gorgeous article brother, MaashAllah. 

Peace be to you Sr. Zainab,

You are about the only person out of all the forums I posted this article who understood and appreciated the writing. You could only imagine how it was received everywhere else by Sunnis and Shias.

Thank you for quoting such lovely verses from the Book of Allah.  I don't know how these people don't get moved and feel guilty about their actions after reading these breathtaking verses.

This has always baffled me...why they dont SEE these Verses? It has no affect on them? This leads me to think of the Verse in which Allah states that He can put a barrier between people's eyes and the Qur'an. This explains to me their state but yet startling as they think they are guided. Which in turn leads me to think of the Verse which states that "they are only deceiving themselves and are not aware of it" about hypocrite people in Surah Al-Bakarah.

Thanks very much all your valuable points sister Zainab. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 04:42:22 am »

There's another very gross violation that's being practiced based on this distortion by Hadith and Bible about stoning.  The narrations in galore that Bukhari and others have penned about death to adulterers have encouraged many Muslims to create a wedge between adultery and fornication.  For the purpose of catering to their lust, they try to convince themselves that while adultery is a huge offence punishable by death, fornication in a negligible mistake.  Such an idea itself is deplorable.  The Quran has made very clear the importance of restraining lustful desires save between legally married spouses. 

I recall, I was reading somewhere on the web (don't remember name of the site) an article on the love affair of late princess Diana and one of her boyfriends, the flabby Pakistani born Dr. Hasnet Khan.  The article stated that when they met, she was separated from her husband but still legally married.  With that in view, the doctor did not consummate their relationship till she got her legal divorce.  The degraded idea insinuated here is that once a woman gets a legal divorce from her husband, it's okay for her and her lover to sleep together because that would be fornication and not adultery.  It would be worthwhile to watch people with such pathetically manipulative minds in the lowest depth of Hellfire on the Day of Judgment. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 11:50:35 pm »

Good n interesting thread ......

The narrations in galore that Bukhari and others have penned about death to adulterers have encouraged many Muslims to create a wedge between adultery and fornication.  For the purpose of catering to their lust, they try to convince themselves that while adultery is a huge offence punishable by death, fornication in a negligible mistake. 

The article stated that when they met, she was separated from her husband but still legally married.  With that in view, the doctor did not consummate their relationship till she got her legal divorce.  The degraded idea insinuated here is that once a woman gets a legal divorce from her husband, it's okay for her and her lover to sleep together because that would be fornication and not adultery.  


Ugh!! such ideas are soooo filthy.  and u r right.  they do commonly exist.  Also, Muslim men almost always tend to take a more liberal stance when their immorality involves a non-Muslim woman.  This selfish approach often translates into dirty theories and acts which a person who's character is rich in high moral values can never accept. 

Not to say .... though for no fantastic reason the unperceiving world has cannonised the late lady & princess Diana, yet in all honesty, during the last few years of her life she went around no different than a high-society sex trade worker.  The only difference was that unlike such professionals, her 'services' were free of cost.  Probably, as per the lessons taught to her by her society, this was her way of 'shopping' for the right guy with the intent of settling down to a happy married life in future.  But she never achieved that, which no one does with this sort of strategy, and instead ended up dying a sinner.
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2009, 12:24:22 am »

Very well perceived sister Heba.  I couldn't agree more on this.


Also, Muslim men almost always tend to take a more liberal stance when their immorality involves a non-Muslim woman. 

 .... though for no fantastic reason the unperceiving world has cannonised the late lady & princess Diana, yet in all honesty, during the last few years of her life she went around no different than a high-society sex trade worker.  ..  Probably, as per the lessons taught to her by her society, this was her way of 'shopping' for the right guy with the intent of settling down to a happy married life in future.  But she never achieved that, which no one does with this sort of strategy, and instead ended up dying a sinner.


Precisely sister rose.  your frank and forthright comments are right on.
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