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Does Verse 4:119 (Surah An-Nissa) include a reference to plastic surgery?


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« on: December 01, 2009, 11:14:47 pm »


This is for everyone's information.

Br. Shabir Ally's (Islamic Information Centre Toroto) brief opinion on Verse 4:119

I sent the following email to Brother Shabir Ally of Islamic Info Centre, Toronto.

"To: Brother Shabir Ally
 
Assalaam Alaikum, brother Shabir ..
I have heard some people say that Verse 4:119 (quoted below) can also be taken as referring to modern day cosmetic surgery.  Can I please have your opinion on this.  It would be very helpful.   Thank you and JazekAllah Khair ..
 
"And surely I will lead them astray, and surely I will arouse desires in them, and surely I will command them and they will cut the cattle's ears, and surely I will command them and they will change Allah's creation. Whoso chooses Satan for a patron instead of Allah is verily a loser and his loss is manifest."  (4:119 Surah An-Nissa)



His response:

Certainly the verse gives us reason to be cautious about making unnecessary changes to the creation of Allah. But one would have to consider each proposed change on its own.
Shabir


Sounds agreeable.




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Is nose job really Haram in Islam?


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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 01:50:17 am »


 Right.  We certainly have to consider each case differently, depending on its background. 

If you think carefully and logically, some kinds of cosmetic procedures are done for the purpose of not changing but restoring oneself to the natural state, the way Allah created us.  For example, if someone's skin gets burnt, that person might be interested in going thru certain cosmetic procedures including surgery to restore the former natural looking appearance. 

Similarly, when some people want to age gracefully and go thru facelifts or other cosmetic procedures to get rid of fine lines and wrinkles and smoothen the skin, their intent is not to 'change' nor to 'transform' themselves but to look some bit as they did before when younger.  The fact that these people can't face the natural process of aging with cheer is a different matter and it would perhaps have been better if they did.  However, that's obviously not any big violation that may go beyond the bounds of forgivness.  Allah knows best but that's what I think.

With the kind of rigid attitude some hardliners take while interpreting cosmetic procedures / surgery as changing one's natural self, with that kind of logic, even application of everyday make-up should be a violation.  If someone puts lipstick, it can be construed for the purpose of beautifying and reshaping the natural pale lips by coloring it.  The only difference between everyday make-up and cosmetic surgery or other procedures is that the former is temporary which can be washed away with water and the latter is permanent or more permanent.

I think the types of cosmetic surgeries that are really done to change one's natural self and therefore would be Haram are for example, breast implants, buttock enhancement, tatooing, etc. etc.  These are really major alterations that do change the natural body and often for immodest purposes.

Not to mention, practices like cloning and gender change operations are the ones that aptly fit into the concept of changing the creation of Allah and are totally HARAM.

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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 02:20:28 am »

MaashAllah, very intelligent perception sister Rose.  It was both interesting and educative going through your analysis of this subject.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 02:42:20 am »



Ah, and thanks for putting up this subject, sis Smiley  hope u r doin fine, Insh'Allah.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2018, 07:26:28 am »



Very well discussed Sister Ruhi.

I recently came across Abu Ala Maududi's discourse on Verse 4:119 which was quite interesting except one aspect.

Quoting him on the explanation of Verse 4:119

"This does not condemn the alterations that man makes in the creation of God for their right and proper use, for in that case the whole of human civilization will stand condemned as a seduction of Satan.  The reference is to proper use of everything created by God Almighty.  What the Qur'an describes as devilish alterations is to make wrong and improper use of things against human nature and against their natural functions.  Hence, all those forms that are adopted as an escape from the designs of Nature are the results of the enticement of Satan e.g. sodomy, birth control, asceticism (probably similar to monasticism) etc. It is equally devilish that females should be made to give up their proper functions and to perform those duties which nature has assigned to males. Instances can be multiplied to show that the disciples of Satan consider the laws of the Creator of the Universe wrong and, therefore, are trying to "reform" them."

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Makes sense, except that bit on "birth control."   If married couples use birth control, I don't see anything un-Islamic nor against "human nature" in it.  It can also not be construed as "against natural functions."  Physical intimacy in conjugal relations can also exclude the purpose of producing children, if the couple already have the number of kids they desire or are able to take care of.   For instance, what's the point of a couple of below average financial means producing 15 kids and not being able to provide a single decent meal to any of them including themselves .. just because they refuse family planning?

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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2018, 07:46:28 am »



I absolutely concur on the issue you stated Sister Heba.  I don't know why he is putting birth control in the prohibited category.  That has nothing to do with changing the creation of God Almighty.  And the aspect of hindering natural functions doesn't include this either.  I can understand why many people are against abortion, but birth control is an entirely different concept.  From Maududi's view point as on birth control, many essential medications should also be in the same category.  For example, if someone is constipated, they shouldn't use laxatives because that can be spun around and explained as  'changing a natural existing condition.'  But we know for sure that isn't correct and Allah's orders don't include arguments like these.

As we see today when cost of living is sky high, over-population is devastating this world and ruining the lives of many children simply because their poor parents just aren't able to afford even the bare necessities. 


 
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2018, 07:48:33 am »



Hmmm, that's exactly what I was thinking too Sis.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2018, 12:46:41 am »



This reminds me of a case.  Sometimes one might go for minor plastic surgery because of pressure or badgering from family and friends.   It happened with a friend of my sister when they were all in college or university.  That young lady had a slightly prominent nose, which lots of people have, and it didn't at all look out of proportion or anything as such.  She had 4 or 5 brothers who were very misogynistic.  They perpetually teased and ridiculed her over her nose.  She started feeling bullied and insulted.  She then started getting depressed.  Their parents were of course very nice and often scolded the boys loud to stop such behavior.  But they never stopped for long and would always return to deriding her, often they even derided her in front of their cousins and guests.  Eventually she couldn't cope with the anxiety and decided to go for a nose job.  They weren't too rich so she went to a plastic surgeon who wasn't very experienced, and her nose job wasn't done too well. That caused her greater anxiety, and still more to her poor parents.  She would lock herself in her room and wouldn't come out.  Then her parents cashed some of their investments and consulted a good plastic surgeon as they thought nothing was more important than their daughter's happiness and peace of mind. That doctor performed a good job and then she was okay, by Allah's Grace, Alhumdulilah.  This was almost a decade ago.  She still hasn't forgiven her brothers for that sort of bullying-ridiculing attitude for it was the only reason that drove her into feeling constantly conscious of her nose.

I would think many people face this kind of situation in today's mad world.  I am sure Allah Almighty understands it and such plastic surgeries are not Haram.    Moreover, plastic surgery cannot work wonders even by the best doctor in the world.  The alterations to one's facial features can only be that much in accordance with one's natural features as already created by HIM.


 
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2018, 12:53:56 am »



Thanks for sharing this brother TS.  Interesting too.  You're right, situations like these aren't a rarity.  I'm also pretty sure it isn't Haram as Allah Almighty understands the pain and anxiety of the human mind best.  After all, there's no evil nor immodesty in the intentions of the person in such a case.  In this story you mentioned, the fault was of the mean & nasty brothers.  It was actually emotional abuse.  I'm glad her nose job went well the second time, thank Allah.

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2018, 12:55:42 am »



Right Sister Zeynab, it was emotional abuse.  That's the right expression.
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