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Polytheists and atheists (shirk and kufr) - both guilty of unforgivable sin


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« on: December 31, 2009, 05:05:11 am »

 


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Whether polytheist or atheist, both commit unforgivable sin, the former through attributing partners to Allah and the latter through denying the existence of Allah.
 
This can be easily proven through evidence from the Noble Quran.  
 
The idolaters (or polytheists) in the Prophet's (SAAW) era didn't believe in the Day of Judgment nor in the Hereafter.  There are several verses in the Noble Quran that mention about the idolaters who would say (I paraphrase) that when they die and become dust, they will not be revived.   Also, the idolaters would say that they live and die in this world and there's nothing after that.  
 
“Those who disbelieve say: The Hour will never come unto us.  Say: Nay, by my Lord, but it is coming unto you surely.  (He is) the Knower of the Unseen.   34:3
 
“They say, ‘There is nothing but our present life; we die, and we live, and nothing but time destroys us.’  Of that they have no knowledge; they merely conjecture.    45:24
 
“And Man has coined for Us a similitude, and has forgotten the fact of his creation, saying: ‘Who will revive these bones when they have rotted away?’  Say: ‘He will revive them who produced them at the first  36:78
 
“When Allah, alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are filled with disgust. But when (gods) other than He are mentioned, behold, they are filled with joy!” (Az-Zumar: 45).

 
All of the above verses are proofs of the idolaters (or polytheists) of Makkah not believing in the Hereafter.   Verse 45 of Surah Az-Zumar above is a very direct evidence that idolaters who joined partners with Allah did not believe in the Hereafter.  
 
Now let's compare the polytheists with the atheists.  A polytheist would associate partners with Allah and reject the concept of Tawheed (Monotheism) and also not believe in the Hereafter as observed in the verses quoted above.  As for an atheist, he does not believe in associating partners with Allah but at the same time he also does not believe in Monotheism, thus denying the existence of Allah.  And like the polytheist, an atheist does not believe in the Hereafter either.  Thus, needless to explain any further, an atheist is no less a disbeliever than a polytheist and vice-versa.  
 
It must be remembered that rejecting polytheism will benefit a person if he embraces Monotheism after quitting polytheism.  But after quitting polytheism, if the person rejects  Monotheism and also rejects belief in the Day of Judgment / Hereafter (and this is what atheists do), then this person is on the same sinful level as a polytheist who commits shirk.  They are both guilty of unforgivable sin.  That's because they are both disbelievers, if they die in this state.  There's absolutely no doubt about it.

 
I would further like to discuss this topic in the light of Verse 2:62.
 
"Lo! those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve." (2:62)

The above verse clearly indicates that to acquire acceptance and forgivness from Allah, it's obligatory to believe in Allah alone and the Last Day.  Atheists, like the polytheists, disbelieve in the Last Day.   Also, polytheists deny Allah alone, unless they join partners, and atheists deny Allah.  Thus, both are transgressors.
 
There are several more similar verses in the Noble Quran that assert the mandatory conditions of believing in all Prophets and the angels.  Again, neither polytheists nor atheists believe in these.  
 
Furthermore ..
 
Check the following verses.  They can be taken as referring to both polytheists and atheists alike.  If you read them carefully, you will observe that such refutations and insults are hurled against Islam (Surrender to Allah alone) by both polytheists as well as atheists.  And very definitely, those who speak as such, are burdened with the sin of kufr the Sight of Allah.  And kufr in an unforgivable sin.
 
"And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter."  (3:85)
 
"And even if We had sent down to you, [O Muhammad], a written scripture on a page and they touched it with their hands, the disbelievers would say, "This is not but obvious magic." " 6:7
 
"And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed."  6:21
 
"Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."  6:25
 
"If you could but see when they are made to stand before the Fire and will say, "Oh, would that we could be returned [to life on earth] and not deny the signs of our Lord and be among the believers." "  6:27
 
"Even so there came no messenger unto those before them but they said: A wizard or a madman!"  51:52

 
 
Jinn
 
Just for information, there are also disbelievers amongst the Jinn, who deviate from the path of Allah alone, by falling into the temptations of Satan.
 
"I created the jinn and huhumankind only that they might worship Me."  51:56
 
Thus, just like humans, Jinn can be either believing or disbelieving.
 
 
Seeking forgivness at the eleventh hour won't help
 
As a part of this discourse, it's also necessary to mention that disbelievers (polytheists or atheists) who embrace Faith when they are at the door-step of death after being neglectful all their lives, will not be forgiven and their belief will then not avail them.
 
“Until, when death comes unto one of them, he says, ‘My Lord, send me back, that I may do right in that which I have left behind!’  But nay!  It is but a word that he speaks; and behind them is a barrier until the day when they are raised."   23:99-100
 
"They indeed are losers who deny their meeting with Allah until, when the Hour cometh on them suddenly, they cry: Alas for us, that we neglected it!  They bear upon their backs their burdens. Ah, evil is that which they bear!" (6:31)  
 
"And We brought the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh with his hosts pursued them in rebellion and transgression, till, when the (fate of) drowning overtook him, he exclaimed: I believe that there is no God save Him in Whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am of those who surrender (unto Him).
What! Now! When hitherto thou hast rebelled and been of the wrong-doers ? (10:90-91)

 
 
Conclusion:
Polytheism and atheism both come into the category of  disbelief in the surrender to Allah Almighty alone.  Allah (The Highest) has already mentioned that He does NOT accept any other spiritual concept except total surrender to Him alone (that is, al-Islam).  Thus, polytheists, atheists and all those who follow faiths and spiritual concepts different from the Monotheistic believer (or 'Muslim' which in Arabic means a person who has surrendered his purpose to Allah alone) will not be granted acceptance according to the standard norms of the Noble Quran.  Such persons are not entitled to forgivness from Allah in the Day of Judgment.  However, only Allah knows who at heart is truly Monotheistic or otherwise, and His decision will be based on His Judgment.  Praise be to Allah Almighty alone.
 
During the era of the Prophet (SAAW), particularly in Arabia, many more people were in the polytheistic category of disbelief.   Atheistic disbelievers are more at present in secular societies than in those days.



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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 04:33:18 am »



This is a superb scrutiny that defines both idolaters and atheists as people of Hellfire as the characteristics of both are fully in the HARAM category of unforgivable sin.  You put it all brilliantly.

Playing games and riddles with the words of the Quran and thus distorting it is a common part of the Free Minds culture.  According to the recent Free Minds agent, Andy Jon Mac, who jumped in here and then was successfully thrown out .. according to him, since the idolaters believe in polytheism, therfore by definition they are "not disbelievers."  And since atheists do not associate partners with Allah Almighty on the basis of their rejecting the existence of Allah, therfore they conclude that since atheists aren't idolaters, they are not responsible of unforgivable sin.    Allah is sufficient to deal with such thieves & crooks on the Day of Judgment. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 01:30:06 am »



Sister Zeynab, your close scrutiny comparing these 2 groups of disbelievers has been done with a lot of expertise.  It proves the point beyond all doubts.  Of course we always knew about this, but people like that recent member who was playing with words (as sister Heba rightly put it), should now understand what they were missing out. 

Thank u for these great articles.  Very well written indeed.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 02:26:57 am »



Shukriya Sister Heba and Br. TS for your very helpful feedback in our recent threads.  Was very useful for me.  May Allah (The Highest) continue to guide us with wisdom, insight and reason and keep away the trouble makers who are bent upon creating confusion and fitnah.  Ameen. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2021, 09:53:14 pm »




Salams dear all.  Coming to this thread after pretty long, over a decade.  And Alhumdulilah that we've been able to run this forum for that long.  All praise be to Allah only.   Ameen. 


Would appreciate your feedback on a talk I had with an elderly sister-friend.


"Indeed, those who have believed then disbelieved, then believed, then disbelieved, and then increased in disbelief - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a way."  4:137 Surah Nissa.

Can the above Verse be confirmed as an assertion that those who slip back to disbelief after belief will face greater punishment in the Hereafter compared to those who never believed at all?

We know an elderly sister, she often comes to our Zoom meetings.  She's a very nice sister, very particular of practicing Halal and avoiding Haram.  She asked me on a one-on-one conversation that her son used to be a practicing Muslim with a good understanding of the Noble Quran.  Then gradually, after facing the challenges of life, he failed his tests and trials, and slumped into secularism.  She says he's been secular for some years and now as a man in his 40s he's quite firmly into secular atheism.    She tried a lot to bring him back to the right path by talking to him, sending him Quranic Verses and very nice commentaries on the Quran and some good lectures of learned Muslim scholars.  But to no avail.   He just won't be moved nor will he ponder.  She's very worried.   She fears that if his soul passes away in such a condition, he won't qualify for forgiveness and neither she nor her late husband will be able to meet him in the Hereafter.  I can so well understand her grief.  But I told her it's a helpless situation, not her fault, and there's nothing she can do other than pray to Allah Almighty to awaken him.   Allah guides those who make themselves worthy of His guidance.  That man seems to be worth nothing.   Such a sad story, isn't it?    



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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2021, 09:15:59 pm »



Wa'salam Sister Ruhi. 

Of course, it's sad beyond words.  That man is walking on a path that leads to the ultimate loss.   While his mother can see him walking to destruction, he is oblivious.    Absolutely calamitous for the soul of that man.  But as you rightly said, no one can help him .. unless he awakens before it's too late and sincerely reaches out to Allah for guidance.

Verse 4:137 does certainly sound that such a path to disbelief is even worse.  Generally, such folks do not take the surrender to Allah Almighty alone seriously.  They either take it as a secondary issue of earthly life or some may embrace Faith with some hidden motive based on self interest.  When that self interest exists no more, they quit Faith.  They never strive to purge their souls from the negatives of life.  They never distance themselves from temptations.  They have little or no love for Allah in their hearts and therefore the need to reform themselves and trash temptations never arises within them.  If they're swayed by any Haram act or thought, they give in and gradually deviate completely becoming disbelievers yet again.  Very often, there is a final stage in their disbelief.  That is, after swaying a couple of times, they may deviate permanently when they get swayed the third or fourth time.  Alas, the ultimate tragedy, if only their souls realized it.   Obviously, for such people there is neither forgiveness nor guidance from Allah.  Their disbelief might be even worse than those who never believed at all because they rejected Faith even after getting acquainted with the beauty of guidance.  Many such folks, after knowing themselves how tragically they failed their own humanity, let go of themselves becoming very staunch in disbelief and their negative influence destroying others too.  These are the types of people Allah Almighty has referred in V.4:135, plainly asserting that they will never be forgiven.   This is worse than a silent disbeliever who keeps his/her disbelief and antagonism to themselves without trying to aspire others.

That's how important it is to avoid temptations otherwise one may risk slipping and falling, and then not being able to stand up again at all.   After tasting the sweetness of Faith and guidance, they choose to replace with the bitterness of disbelief and deviance.  Much too pathetic.
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What about the man's wife, isn't she concerned about her husband's plight? 
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2021, 10:38:30 pm »




Thanks for the input brother TS.   Your words are exactly what I thought of myself. 

Sister Heba, the guy's wife is a staunch secularist, sometimes also cynical and rude.  Very likely her negative influence is ruining his soul further.   But there's no point blaming her.  After all, the man himself is no kid.  If he is unable to think carefully and look for guidance, why would she care?


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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2021, 10:44:32 pm »



Right sister .. ...  don't know what the heck is happening to this dang world.


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