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« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2021, 06:56:52 am »



As-Salaam Alaikum dear folks.

Slight change of opinion in our discussion about Hajj to be performed during 4 months, not just on the first 10 days of Dhul Hijjah:

With reference to our following discussions earlier, nearly 5 years ago, in this thread .....



As-Salam Alaykum everyone.

There's a very relevant point mentioned in Quran-alone site "Quran-Islam.org-True Islam" which needs to be discussed.   I thought of continuing in this thread so all info on Hajj can be found under a single thread for the convenience of our readers.

Original of Verse 9:36 in Arabic:

إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ يَوْمَ خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ مِنْهَا أَرْبَعَةٌ حُرُمٌ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ ۚ فَلَا تَظْلِمُوا فِيهِنَّ أَنْفُسَكُمْ ۚ وَقَاتِلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ كَافَّةً كَمَا يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ كَافَّةً ۚ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَ

"Indeed, the number of months with Allah is twelve [lunar] months in the register of Allah [from] the day He created the heavens and the earth; of these, four are sacred. That is the correct religion, so do not wrong yourselves during them. And fight against the disbelievers collectively as they fight against you collectively. And know that Allah is with the righteous [who fear Him]."  (Verse 9:36)

In Verse 9:36 the word on focus is "hurum" or "hurumun."   According to Quran-alone site the meaning of "humum" is not 'sacred' as translated by all translators including Haleem.  They claim "hurum" is the plural of "haram" and in Verse 9:36 the word implies "to abstain."  Thus the explanation goes as, there are 12 months in a year out of which 4 months are for abstinence from wars, unless in self defense.

Then comes Verse 2:197 where another point needs to be viewed.

Original of Verse 2:197 in Arabic:

الْحَجُّ أَشْهُرٌ مَعْلُومَاتٌ ۚ فَمَنْ فَرَضَ فِيهِنَّ الْحَجَّ فَلَا رَفَثَ وَلَا فُسُوقَ وَلَا جِدَالَ فِي الْحَجِّ ۗ وَمَا تَفْعَلُوا مِنْ خَيْرٍ يَعْلَمْهُ اللَّهُ ۗ وَتَزَوَّدُوا فَإِنَّ خَيْرَ الزَّادِ التَّقْوَىٰ ۚ وَاتَّقُونِ يَا أُولِي الْأَلْبَابِ

"The pilgrimage takes place during the prescribed months.
There should be no indecent speech, misbehaviour, or quarrelling
for anyone undertaking the pilgrimage– whatever good you do, God
is well aware of it." (2:197)  (translation Haleem)

"(For) the Hajj (are) months well known, ...... "    (2:197)  (translation Corpus Quran)


In this Verse 2:197 we need to focus on the word "months" which is plural in both translations above.  It's original in Arabic of Verse 2:197 would be "ashhurun."  We can be sure "ashhurun" is plural as grammatically Corpus Quran defines it as "nominative masculine plural indefinite noun."  The reason why the Quran mentions "months"and not 'month' is because there are 4 months that are "hurum" as already studied in Verse 9:36.

Therefore according to Quran-Islam.org., it's not necessary to restrict Hajj only during the month of Zil Hajj, rather it can be performed during any of those 4 months. Contrary to that, our jurists have ruled Hajj to be performed only in month of Zil Hajj and that too, not the whole month of Zil Hajj but just the first 10 days.  According to this website, the concept of only Zil Hajj as the month of pilgrimage, and that too the first 10 days, comes from the Hadith institution.  The website also clarifies that these 4 months aren't defined as "sacred" in the Quran, rather they are defined as months of 'abstinence' (that is, abstinence from war).

Those folks sound Quranically correct.  I personally think so.  Please give me your feedback.

Here is the above original post in this thread by Br. TS.


I agree with Quran-Islam.org website that the concept of Hajj only during first 10 days of month of Zil Hajj is from traditions.  The Quran does not uphold that.  So we can perform Hajj on all 4 months.  That much is in accordance with the Quran as confirmed in the Final Message.  But the question is which are those other 3 months as Sister Heba emphasized?  If we choose those additional 3 sacred or abstained months as Zil Qadah, Muharram and Rajab .. then again we are going back to Hadith, aren't we?  Because this information comes from Hadith.  Unless that website has some logical analysis from the Quran as to which months are precisely included from the Quranic statement of Verse 2:197.  But I'm sure the Quran does not mention the names of those months.  The only month named in the Quran is Ramadan, that the Quran began being revealed in this month because Allah wants us to know about it.

The Quran refers to the cycle of time-period from the beginning of times, and thus the Quran does not mention the names of months because names of months have been different in different communities around the world at different times of history.  Not just that, but with the cycle of cultural innovation, those names also kept changing.

As for the precise reason for selecting specific months and why these 4 months were chosen as sacred which mainly denoted abstinence from violence, is not known either.  Possibly the purpose was to minimize the anxiety and destruction of war .. to give a break to the strife & skirmishes within a tribal community.  It maybe possible that the practice of refraining from wars on certain months existed in Arabia since very long, maybe it existed in some ways since the time of Prophet Abraham (pbuh).  But only Allah knows best.


Here is the above original post in this thread by me.


Recently Sister Heba and myself did some tireless research on the concept of "four sacred months."  As we all know it's true the names of the four "sacred" months is mentioned in the Hadith, yet viewing the four (sacred) months (or the four months of abstinence) as Rajab, Dhul Qadah, Dhul Hijjah and Muhurram doesn't mean that we are taking our information from the Hadith.

As we adjust our opinion on this aspect in regard to the season of Hajj, let us begin by quoting Verses 9:36 and 2:197. 

"Indeed, the number of months with Allah is twelve [lunar] months in the register of Allah [from] the day He created the heavens and the earth; of these, four are sacred. That is the correct religion, so do not wrong yourselves during them. And fight against the disbelievers collectively as they fight against you collectively. And know that Allah is with the righteous [who fear Him]."   9:36.

"Hajj is (during) well-known months, so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein, there is (to be for him) no sexual relations and no disobedience and no disputing during Hajj.   And whatever good you do - Allah knows it."  2:197.

Four sacred months are Rajab, Dhul-Qadah, Dhul Hijjah and Muharram.   These months are not named in the Quran.  However, we can be quite sure that the references in the above Verses are to these four months.  Obviously there wasn't much need to mention the names of these months in the Quran because it had been a practice in Arabia for a very long period, observing these four months to be "hurumun."  For that reason Allah has already mentioned those months as "well-known months" in original Arabic "ashhurun maʿlumatun."

This time the Hadith didn't randomly mention these four months, rather mentioned them in accordance to an old existing practice in history.  What the Hadith did concoct was the mistranslation of the word "hurumun" as 'sacred.'   For that reason, most English translators of the Quran also use the same term 'sacred.'   However, we are fortunate to have the original Quran which tells us that the actual word stated by The Almighty is "hurumun" which means abstaining or prohibiting.

The term hurumun which is translated as "are sacred" in V.9:36 is basically taken in the context of banning or prohibiting or abstaining.  It does not refer to spiritual practices nor sacred in the religious context.  It alludes to abstaining from or prohibiting or banning wars and skirmishes.  Fighting between tribes and clans were quite frequent in pre-Islamic Arabia.  It conveys the concept of promotion of peace, and thwarting the destruction and insecurity caused by wars and attacking wayfarers, breaking of peace treaties or any other form of communal violence.  In the Quran there are no religious connections with any of these four months.  The only month having religious significance is the month of Ramadan.  Ramadan can certainly be taken as the most favored month of the year as it is the month of the Noble Quran.  The sacred aspect of this month is based on spirituality, and it's taken for granted that any sincere believer will never initiate war in this blessed month unless in self defense if they are attacked first. 

In Verse 2:197, when Allah says Hajj to be in the "well-known months" ..  it would be reasonable to assume the reference is to the four months of Rajab, Dhul-Qadah, Dhul Hijjah and Muharrum.  War and violence being specifically prohibited in these four months, these months were also favorable and convenient for performing Hajj which required traveling long distances for many people.   We are sure that Allah mentions "months" in the plural and not the singular "month."  The singular 'month' is Arabic is شهر and its plural is أَشْهُرٌ, ashhurun as stated in the Verse 2:197.   Therefore the Noble Quran states that Hajj can be performed during those four months and not necessarily only during the first 10 days of Dhul Hijjah.   That assertion is quite clear.

The idea of restricting Hajj only during the month of Dhul Hijjah, and that too only during the first 10 days of this month, coming from the Hadith institution explains why the Haj season is so overcrowded and difficult.  It keeps getting tougher as the world population increases.  At present there are approximately between 2 million and 2.5 million pilgrims going to Arabia for Hajj during the season.  Everyone who decides to perform Hajj must either rush to accommodate themselves during the short stretch of the first 10 days of Dhul Hijjah or wait until the following year.  Therefore, the Hadith has again blatantly overridden the Quranic Law, replacing it with an idea of its own.  Instead of recklessly accepting such a flagrant violation by the Hadith, if our jurists had followed the Quran allowing Hajj to be performed during all 30 days of the four months of Rajab, Dhul Qadah, Dhul Hijjah and Muharrum, the crowd during every season and every stretch of performing Hajj would have been one-quarter of what we see during the current Hajj season which is only in the first 10 days of Dhul Hijjah.


How did the performance of Hajj get restricted within the first 10 days of Dhul Hijjah ?
 
This misinformation arises from the total misinterpretation of Verses 89:1-4 by the Hadith traditionalists.   We also had this discussion in our post Ten Nights, the Even and the Odd.   The following is more detailed.

The constant repetition of the Hadith about the merits of the first 10 days of Dhul Hijjah is one of the aspects that has underscored the idea that Hajj must be performed only during this period.  Quote:   "There are no days greater in the sight of Allah and in which righteous deeds are more beloved to Him than these ten days .."   This is from the collection of Ahmad, but I'm quite sure it's also there in Bukhari.   Another Hadith assertion comes from its total misunderstanding and misinterpretation of Verses 89:1-4 of Surah Al-Fajr.   The Verse says "By the Dawn  And ten nights, And the Even and the Odd,  And the night when it departs,   ..  

The above quoted Verses of Surah Al-Fajr, which Hadith has misunderstood as referring to the first 10 nights of Dhul Hijjah, and some traditionalists think it's the last 10 days of Ramadan, actually have nothing to do with either Dhul Hijjah nor Ramadan.

It is an oath which The Almighty takes on fajr which is the start of each new day when a slight bluish streak of light appears in the dark sky (V.89:1).    The ten nights (V.89:2) imply each group of the ten nights among the thirty nights of the month.  The reason why the 30 days are mentioned into three groups of 10 nights is an allusion to the description of the changing forms of the moon.  During the first 10 nights the crescent moon begins by appearing like a thin curved streak.  Gradually it appears wider every night and by the 10th night it looks brighter in comparison.  During the start of the second group of 10 days the moon continues to look larger and brighter, and by the 14th night it's fully illuminated by the sun which we refer to as the "full moon," marvelously illuminating the dark night, Alhumdulilah.   After the 14th night the moon gradually starts to wan again, and the nights again begin to get darker.  Thus, when the following month begins with the first group of 10 days, the moon again appears like a thin crescent streak. 

Even and the odd (V.89:3) refer to the numbering of the days from one to thirty divided into three groups of ten nights each.  In every group of these ten nights and days, all even number of days of the month are preceded by odd numbers e.g.  the second day of the month (even number) preceded by the first day (odd number), the fourth day (even number) preceded by the third day (odd number) and so on.

Departing of the night (V.89:4) is of course very simple to understand.  The reference is, when dawn begins to arrive it ushers an end to the darkness that covered the atmosphere which slowly and steadily starts to brighten.

Finally, the question is, why is The Almighty taking this oath ?    As I mentioned earlier, the traditionalists presume it's about the first ten nights of Dhul Hijjah, and some presume the last ten nights of Ramadan and thus the concept that the revelation of the Noble Quran began on one of the "odd" ten nights of the month of Ramadan, whereas Allah Almighty gives us no reason for such a presumption.  He makes it clear that the revelation of the Quran began in one of the 30 nights of Ramadan;  but that day has not been disclosed to us.

The reason Allah Almighty takes this oath is based on the argument which the idolaters constantly had with the Prophet (pbuh) about the punishment in the Hereafter.   The idolaters did not believe in the Last Day nor the Final Judgement.   No matter how much the Prophet (pbuh) tried to convince them about the Truth, they would not accept it.   Therefore, Allah Almighty asserts and confirms this argument that the sinful ones and the disbelievers will surely be dealt with in the Hereafter. In this regard The Almighty takes an oath mentioning the marvels of the dawn, the changing appearances of the moon throughout the 30 days of each month and finally the departing of the dark night replaced by dawn again.   As Surah Al-Fajr continues, quote:

"There surely is an oath for thinking man."   89:5
"Do you not consider how your Rab dealt with (the tribe of) A'ad,"  89:6
"And with (the tribe of) Thamud, who clove the rocks in the valley;"   89:9
"And with Pharaoh, firm of might,"   89:10
"Who (all) were rebellious (to Allah) in these lands,"   89:11
"Therefore thy Lord poured on them the disaster of His punishment."   89:13



The Almighty categorically states in the above Verses that all wrong doers in the past were punished and their punishment in Hellfire will be still worse.   This will also be the fate of all disbelieving and sinful people of later times who will then regret, but that would be too little, too late.

This makes up the elucidation of the Verses 82:1-4 which is NOT about the first ten days of Dhul Hijjah nor the final ten days of Ramadan. 

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« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2021, 09:42:25 am »




Wa'salam.   Perfectly compiled and analyzed.   Subhan'Allah. 
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« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2021, 05:05:31 pm »



Salam again here, dear MV folks   hiyaaa

Confirming a basic aspect.   We know that the mountains of Safa and Marwa are mentioned in the Quran and the Quran also says it's okay to walk between them.   Reference V.2:158.  Traditionally this step of Hajj is called Sa'ee.  Traditionally it's in memory to Hajar, Prophet Ibrahim's second wife, who, according to traditional narrations desperately walked and sometimes ran between these two hills in search of help seven times.  Thus, Sa'ee consists of walking between Safa and Marwa for those performing Hajj or Umrah.

So here, walking between Safa and Marwa is a Quranic dictate.  But the Noble Quran does not mention the number of times.  Thus, if an elderly or frail person performing Hajj or Umrah walk between the two mountains once, that should be okay too, right?   After all, the Quran does not fix the number of times one needs to walk.

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Yes, I would agree with that.   If someone with health issues can walk without exhaustion just once, it's fine.  If someone else who is healthy wants to walk more than once, that too is fine.  The Noble Quran has not affixed any numbers to that.

And although the Quran also does not specify the reason for Sa'ee since there is no mention of Hajar, the traditional reference to Hajar could very well be true since the Quran does mention that Prophet Ibrahim (pbuh) did settle his family in Makkah which was a very barren place then.  The Quran also makes it clear that this family of Prophet Ibrahim consisted of his elder son, Prophet Ismail (pbuh) who was then a baby.  So quite obviously the Sa'ee is in remembrance to Prophet Ismail's mother.

"Our Rab, I have settled some of my descendants in an uncultivated valley near Your sacred House, our Rab, that they may establish prayer.  So make hearts among the people incline toward them and provide for them from the fruits that they might be grateful."  14:37  Surah Ibrahim.

Prophet Ibrahim (pbuh) offered this supplication to The Almighty later on. 
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« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2021, 05:33:49 pm »



Thank ye for this, brother!

Verse 2:158 brings one more question in my mind in connection with what the ustada is our virtual meetings said the other day.  She said this supplication offered by Prophet Ibrahim (pbuh) was soon after he had left Hajar and their infant son, Ismail, in the dry and barren valley of Makkah .. when Prophet Ibrahim was walking away after taking them to Makkah and was far away so he couldn't see them, he offered this du'a.  At that time the Kaa'ba was not built.  Kaa'ba was constructed much later when Prophet Ismail was a older and that's when he helped his father, Prophet Ibrahim (who occasionally visited Makkah after taking his family there), to build the Kaa'ba strictly for Monotheistic worship.   Therefor when the Verse 14:37 mentions "Your sacred House" that of course means Kaa'ba.   Or is the reference different?
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« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2021, 05:54:33 pm »


The reference is
definitely to the Kaa'ba for sure, Alhumdulilah.  And you're right, the Kaa'ba was built much later by Prophet Ibrahim and his son, Prophet Ismail, when he was much older.  The supplication in V.14:37 was offered by Prophet Ibrahim after he and his son built the Kaa'ba and established the Truth of Monotheism in Makkah.   This is proven by the preceding Verses 14:35-36 quote:

"And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham said, "My Rab, make this city [Makkah] secure and keep me and my sons away from worshipping idols.  My Rab, indeed they have led astray many among the people. So whoever follows me - then he is of me; and whoever disobeys me - indeed, You are [yet] Forgiving and Merciful."  14:35-36.

Prophet Ibrahim asks Allah Almighty for guidance for himself and his sons, mark the word in plural "sons" which means by this time both his sons, Ismail and Ishaq, were born.  Then Prophet Ibrahim tells Allah Almighty that the practice of worshiping idols and paganism has led many people astray and left them in sin.  Therefore, after building the Kaa'ba in Makkah and teaching the people the fact about Monotheism, that there is only ONE ALLAH, Prophet Ibrahim ardently hopes that polytheism will be abolished from Makkah.

It's the ustada who has misunderstood it 😀  and henceforth created confusion by claiming that Prophet Ibrahim offered this supplication soon after leaving Hajar and her infant son in Makkah.  There are many people who do read the Quran but are not able to organize the historical narrations of the Quran chronologically because they don't concentrate carefully on the complete contents of every Verse. 
 
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Plenty of thanks again brother.   Very well analyzed.   

lol 😃 ustada very confidently repeated at least four times that this du'a of V.14:37 was offered by Prophet Ibrahim  (pbuh) soon after he took them to Makkah and when he was returning. 

She was actually focused on the words "uncultivated valley" which emphasize that Makkah back then wasn't like today and at that time there was absolutely no vegetation there .. and it was because of his firm Faith in Allah that Prophet Ibrahim was able to make this difficult decision of leaving his family there.  This is of course absolutely true, but then the ustada forgot to focus on the other words of the same Ayat "Your sacred House" which alludes to the Kaa'ba which was built several years later and this supplication was also made years later.

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« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2021, 06:18:41 pm »



You're welcome sister ....

Yes, you're right.
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.....

It's the ustada who has misunderstood it   and henceforth created confusion by claiming that Prophet Ibrahim offered this supplication soon after leaving Hajar and her infant son in Makkah.  ................
 


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Brother is right.   Many people mix up Quranic Verses in regard to the historical event the Noble Quran narrates.  In the process, they misinterpret those Quranic Verses.

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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2021, 01:04:29 am »




heehe heh heeeh

Exactly sis, that happens with a lot of folks ..... either because their concentration is distracted or they're just not intelligent enough to grasp the Quranic contents and remember the facts and details.

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