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« on: November 19, 2010, 06:21:38 am »

As-salam Alaykum folks!  does anyone know what's "yalda night" that's observed in Iran?  I guess it's called Shab-e-yalda ( شب یلدا )
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 06:23:51 am »

 ???    what the heck is that?  never heard of it ....  but I'd like to know it.  Sis Zeynab or Br. ts might know.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 06:26:10 am »

lol ,, okay.  yeah, if sis zeynab or br. ts know about it, pls inform.  I'm interested to know if it's religious occasion or social. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 06:28:11 am »

It's gotta be social, otherwise I wud definitely have known it .... unless it's of the hadith brand of 'religion.' 
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 06:50:36 am »

Yeah, u r right sister Heba.  It's a social event.  I mean, now it's social and I don't know why they retain such events which have clear pagan connections.  It has descended down from ancient Persian times like the celebration of nauroz, and back then yalda did have pagan religious significance.  It's connected with the winter solstice and "yalda" (whatever that means) was supposed to be the longest night of winter. This occasion was also observed by the ancient Greeks and Romans called "yule."  In fact, it was this day which was eventually named "christmas" by the Roman authorities after Rome embraced christianity.   To read more on this, check our post
Was December 25 the birthdate of Prophet Essa son of Virgin Maryam?
 After the fall of the Sassanid Empire in Iran and the subsequent rise of Islam, the religious significance of this event was no more observed, and like other ancient festivals, yalda became a social occasion when family and close friends would get together and prepare traditional food.   Yalda is not an official holiday in Muslim Iran either.  References of yalda night are often made in medieval Persian literature.

If br. TS can add anything that I've missed out,  please do so ..
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 06:54:50 am »

Ah! okay, I now get it.  thanks a lot sister Zeynab.   
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 01:00:39 pm »

Yes it was an ancient pagan religious festival and as far as I think "yalda" means 'birth.'  It was celebrated in pre-Islamic Persia on Dec. 21 as winter solstice or longest winter night.  It's a very old festival and was celebrated by zorastrians and also by those pagans before them.  It's the ancient persian pagan counterpart of the old pagan Roman celebration of Saturnalia or yule which later came to be known as Christmas.  All a pack of complete shit, really.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 01:03:50 pm »

hmmmm, u r right.  seems very shitty.
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