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« on: November 21, 2010, 04:30:38 pm »



Another ridiculously FALSE Hadith attributed to the Prophet (SAAW) through the mischief of Mr. Bukhari.
 
Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 713:
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


This hadith seems to be claiming the Prophet (SAAW) died of poisoning.  The battle of Khaiber, where the Hadith claims that the Prophet was poisoned, happened in 6 AH (628 C.E.) and the Prophet (SAAW) passed away in 10 AH (632 C.E.), a duration of 4 years in between.  Poison doesn't linger in the human system for that many years and neither does it have symptoms like an 'on again off again' chronic disease.  Has anyone ever heard of a type of poison which takes 4 years to kill a person after being ingested?  Not just that, but during those 4 years the person lives a healthy and active life and then suddenly dies after a brief illness because of a poison he had 4 years ago.   There is no so-called "slow poison" that takes 4 years to react with its symptoms mildly coming & healing like a headache or a backache.  Those Christian and other non-Muslim kufaar in "Answering-Islam" website are making fun of this Hadith by showing to the world that such stuff is "authentic" and they are defaming Islam.
 
Even though the Prophet's (pbuh) enemies would love to poison him, there is absolutely no evidence that those bad guys ever succeeded in getting an opportunity to do that.  This hadith is unauthentic.  And that no poison is known to react the way described in this hadith over a period of so many years is yet another untruth.


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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 01:29:15 am »



Actually the symptoms weren't even supposed to be "oft and on" according to hadith stories.  These stories just mention that some Jew (probably a woman) mixed poison with the Prophet's (pbuh) food at Khaibar. And the Prophet realized it after taking the first mouthful of food and threw it out.  Then, some ahadith on the Prophet's death mention of remnants of the poison as cause of his (pbuh) death. Well, the possibility of someone mixing poison with the food is plausible.  However, the fact was that even if this incident was true, the perpetrator didn't succeed.  The Prophet (pbuh) either didn't have the poisoned food  or threw out the very first morsel he took in his mouth after becoming suspicious of it or immediately being warned about it by someone.  And surely after an incident like this, anyone would rinse their mouth thoroughly.  But rinsing or no rinsing, such an incident of attempted poisoning will definitely not take 4 years to take effect.  Absolutely agree.

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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 05:23:10 am »

 Shocked  ,, what happened to poor mr. bukhari ,,,, he's gone bonkers or what?  
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 05:28:56 am »

I only know of one kind of slow-acting poison which the pest control people use for eradicationg mice.  This slow poison takes one week to act.   But a poison which can stay for 4 years in the human system, only Bukhari knows what brand of lie he is talking about. 

The other 'slow poison' can be cigeratte smoking or alcoholism which could take some years to flatten out one's good health and make them sick and then dead.  But of course that's something very different.   
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 05:32:16 am »

This hadith further reminds me:

Another false Hadith claims that anyone who eats 7 dates a day will not be affected by poison or black magic on the day he / she eats them.
 
Sahih Bukhari 7, 71, 671: Narrated Saad:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "Whoever takes seven 'Ajwa dates in the morning will not be effected by magic or poison on that day."
 

So, if the Prophet (S) really ate poison mistakenly and then realized it, as another Hadith tale claims, then wouldn't he immediately eat 7 dates to neutralize the effect of the poison?   

Moreover, yet another false Hadith claims that dates were a part of the Prophet's staple diet which he ate everyday.  In that case the poison shouldn't have taken effect at all. 
 
Ayesha reports: “The Prophet never had two meals in one day unless one of them was dates.” (Related by Al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

These hadith lunatics keep getting trapped into their own nets.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2019, 01:35:11 am »



Very logical reasoning sister Heba.


Sahih Bukhari 7, 71, 671: Narrated Saad:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "Whoever takes seven 'Ajwa dates in the morning will not be effected by magic or poison on that day."
 



Isn't such a hadith reminiscent of the superstitious ideas of pre-Islamic pagan days?

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