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« on: December 12, 2010, 06:42:35 am »

I've noticed many Muslims (or should I call them so-called) trying to make a show that they don't "hate" anyone, and lecturing others not to "hate" anyone no matter how terrible that person or persons maybe.  They even frown if you comment harshly on the Zionists despite the horrific murders they are commiting.  Their standard view is that "as Muslims we shouldn't hate anyone."  I don't know what you may think, but I find this opinion against human nature, somewhat contrary to justice and not totally compatible with the Noble Quran.   Any comments?
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 06:53:00 am »

lol, yes .... your observation is correct  There are plenty of Muslims who talk this way.  It mainly comes from Muslim immigrants living in the west who are scared to speak openly. They try to mingle Islam with western rhetoric on love & forgivness.  Don't forget, the western idea of love & forgivness is only and only rhetorics and big talk.  Their reality is completely different.  The more they talk about love and the more they decry hate, the concept of love keeps getting more elusive in their practical ideology of life and hate becomes more predominant.  Many of these stupid Muslims also join in this chorus for the purpose of hobnobbing and to win their confidance. You are right.  This view is not totally compatible with the Noble Quran.  Blind forgivness to every criminal is certainly against the concept of justice.  It would promote lawlessness and savagery, and no suffering soul would ever be redressed.  Also, to avoid 'hate' altogether is surely against human nature.  The types of violations perpetrated in this world by humans against humans have been an endless process in ancient and modern history.  How can a surviving victim of a horrific crime or the family members of a dead victim of such a violation ever "love" their perpetrators?  Of course, it depends on the severity of the violation.  Sometimes victims and their families can forgive & forget and sometimes not.  Sometimes they can patch up their hard feelings, sometimes not.  The Noble Quran is the greatest symbol of Justice and fairplay.  It has clearly confirmed that those who have been wronged have the right to seek justice.  If they desire to forgive, that's upto them, and surely those who persevere and forgive are praiseworthy.  But this doesn't mean that those who have been terribly hurt and find it unable to forgive are not praiseworthy.  Seeking justice after being wronged can never be blamed.  The Quran plainly asserts this.

The only thing a Muslim needs to remember is that their hatred of someone should not be a reason for them to physically harm that person.  One can hate a person who has commited a crime against them or one can hate a friend or colleague who behaves badly or disrespectfully.   In such cases, one should either refer to the law or simply keep away from unpleasant personalities, respectively. 

Similarly, cursing someone who has hurt us or has been really bad to us and continues being bad, is permissible as long as we curse with our tongue and NOT with our hands.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 06:32:49 am »

Agree ,, ditto.  Those who campaign against hate should first look to themselves.  I'm still trying to find just one incident throughout history where the West has forgiven its enemy.  Can't find a single one.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2010, 03:52:24 am »

yes, me too, agree.  We are perfectly entitled to "hate" those we find disgusting (for whatever reasons) from our hearts and we are also entitled to curse them with our tongues. Their physical punishment of all these hateful ones is upto Allah Almighty on the Day of Judgment.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2010, 04:56:06 am »

Thanks so much, my sisters and brother.  great feedback and explanation.
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