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« on: April 13, 2011, 04:29:34 am »

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"This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as religion al-Islam."  (5:3)  Al-Maidah.

Why should we consult the defective Hadith when the Quran is 'perfect' and 'complete?'  This is a very logical, realistic and important question that frightens the Hadith adhering jurists .. a question they prefer to ignore because they have no valid answers for it.   But the answer is very simple, which is, we must not follow the Hadith because the Quran is perfect and complete as confirmed by Allah Almighty Himself.

The human mindset

The majority of humans are attracted more readily to the writings of other human beings rather than the Divine commandments and the principles contained in the original Divine Messges.  The mindset of the Muslims, after the revelation of the Glorious Quran and the passing away of Prophet Muhammad (S), was no difference.  Hardly 200 years after the death of the Prophet (S), the people created their own book with laws borrowed from pre-Islamic times and from the altered Old and New Testaments called the Hadith.  They began claiming that this Hadith explains the Quran and the "Quran is not complete" without the study of the man-written Hadith.  Thus, began the violation of the Glorious Quran.  The first verse of the Quran to get violated by the so-called Muslims was verse 5:3 of Surah Al-Maidah quoted above in which Allah has categorically confirmed that His Final Message is "perfected" and "completed" yet the people insist that it's not complete and cannot be understood without their man-written Hadith.  Even though these people are aware that their Hadith books are not compatible with the Quran, yet they are adamant to defend it.

The Hadith's contradictions of the Quranic principles gives sufficient evidence that the Hadith was NOT from the Prophet (S).  That's for sure.  Yet the so-called Muslims defend these man-written books of Ahadith with the kind of love that should be reserved only for the Glorious Quran which is Divine and fully original.

Beauty and perfection of the Glorious Quran

Careful reading of the Quran awakens the human mind and enables it to realize its intimate relation with the universe and the world they are living in.  The Quran is not something that's to be followed blindly.  No one can do that because the Quran emphasises on reason and reflection from start to finish.  Its purpose is to enable rational thinking and a clear understanding of how the universe works in accordance with the unalterable laws of Allah, The Exalted.

Conditions for understanding the beauty of the Glorious Quran

It is very simple to correctly understand the Quran, but there are certain requirements for it.  Kindly read the following points carefully.   

1)  Though knowledge of Arabic language is important and helpful for understanding the Quran, it is not enough.  There are plenty of people in the world who are experts in the Arabic language, yet a clear understanding of the Quran has eluded them.   

2)  When a person picks up the Quran for reading and understanding it, they must NOT approach it with a pre-conditioned mind or motivated ideas.  It's highly important to be unbiased with a perception based on truth rather than seeking mere compatibility with existing social and moral values.   

3)  It's necessary to have a clear undertanding of the workings of the universe and the earth in which we live and be refletive about them.   

4)  We need to be quick to grasp the superficial ideas or fallacious arguments that might hinder or distort or conceal the correct meaning of the Noble Quran.  Such needless obstacles must immediately be discarded.   

5)  We must always keep in mind that the Quran is complete and independent.  It is a standalone Book.  "And We reveal the Scripture unto thee as an exposition of all things, and a guidance and a mercy and good tidings for those who have surrendered (to Allah)."  16:89 Surah An-Nahl.   This means that the Quran mentions and explains everything and is lacking in nothing.   

6)  And because the Noble Quran is complete and explains everything, there are NO abrogated verses in the Quran.  For details on the total rejection of the notion of any abrogations, please read our article "On abrogation" of Quranic Verses.   

7)  There is no such thing as "blind following" of the Noble Quran.  It's a Noble Book full of wisdom.  Thus, when you read it, you need to use your intellect, think and reflect.  Otherwise you will find yourself getting confused.  Thus, Allah says: "Will they not then ponder on the Quran?"  4:82 Surah An-Nissa.   Allah also says:  "Will they then not meditate on the Qur'an, or are there locks on the hearts?"  47:24  Surah Muhammad.   And, "They say: Why hath not an angel been sent down unto him ? If We sent down an angel, then the matter would be judged; no further time would be allowed them (for reflection)."  (6:8)  Surah Al-Anam.

The above mentioned points are very essential conditions for studying the Quran for the purpose of understanding it.  Those who fail to apply these conditions are unable to overcome their confusion and the Quran remains a sealed Book for them.  Allah grants understanding of the Quran for guidance only to those who have a sensible approach towards it.  "It is not for any soul to believe save by the permission of Allah. He hath set uncleanness upon those who have no sense."  (10:100)  Surah Yunus.  Thus, Allah makes it clear that the unwise and unworthy will not be able to follow the Quran and so, neither will Allah grant them permission to believe.  Furthermore, in the Quranic elucidations containing the events of the lifetime of the various Messengers of Allah, we are told that when the Messengers of Allah delivered the Message, those who were unwise and lacking in perception got puzzled when they listened to the inspiring words of their Prophets.  Many of them plainly said that they were unable to follow.  "O Shu'aib ! We understand not much what you say" (11: 91)  Surah Hud.   Therefore, if we do not apply our unbiased intellect, we will never be able to understand the indispensible importance and the ultimate truth of Quranic values.

Glorious Quran - the Final Message, correctly written and well preserved

The Quran is the final Message of Allah, The Exalted.  It has been preserved exactly the same original form as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (S) and the Quran was written by honorable scribes.  "(Set down) by scribes Noble and righteous." (80:16-17) Surah Abasa.  The Quran is the only Message conveyed to the people by Allah through His final Messenger, Muhammad (S).  The Prophet (S) completely forbade the writing of Hadith during his lifetime. 

Glorious Quran can be memorized

Also, there were many honorable companions of the Prophet (S) who had memorized the entire Quran word by word.  Unlike the authenticity of Hadith, there is NO dispute about the authenticity of the Quranic verses.  All jurists as well as orientalists acknowledge this fact. 

Imperfections and problems of Hadith

The Sunni Hadith books (a total of about six of them) were compiled approximately 200 years after the passing away of the Prophet (S).  The narrations in these Hadith books were based on the words of the chain of narrators (isnad), and thus compiled.  It is also opined that various narrations were edited more than once prior to compilation.  Almost all jurists also admit that the words of the narrators are NOT the exact words of the Prophet (S).  Molana Maududi who is supposed to be a Hadith expert himself admits that "The sayings of the Prophet and the sayings we find in the books of ahadith are not necessarily one and the same." (Maulana Maududi, Rasayel-o-Massayel, Volume I, 1951 edition, page 270).  Everyone also agrees and accepts that the chain of narrators (even if were considered "reliable" and many weren't) were humans and thus capable of making errors.  Hence, their narrations are always subject to errors.  Unlike this, the Quran is the only Book above errors because it is the Word of the Divine Power.   

The Hadith being a thoroughly unreliable institution filled with doubts and contradictions, it has been classified into several categories starting from "sahih" or "correct" down to "daeef" or "weak" to completely false.  Needless to say, there is absolutely no question of any such classifications of the Quranic Verses.

Furthermore, the endless wranglings between the Sunni and Shiia Ahadith has only made the institution of Hadith more suspicious or completely controversial.  Shiia jurists do not accept any of the Sunni Hadith books and they also reject most of the narrators of the Sunni Hadiths. Not just that.  But even among the Sunnis, there are some ahadith which are accepted as ‘correct’ by one group of scholars (Ahl-Hadith group) but not by another group (viz. Ahl-Fiqh and others).

Conclusion

I hope the above information has conveyed two very important facts:

1)  The pre-requisites for understanding the Noble Quran.

2)  The big difference between the Divine Quran and the man-written and tainted Hadith.



Source: By a Quran alone follower at Yahoo! Q&A (Edited by MV for clarification)
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 05:42:26 am »

Thanks my dear sister.  This was a very, very refreshing read.  The conditions for reading the Quran are really important to keep in mind prior to starting the study of the Noble Quran.  In fact, most misunderstandings and misinterpretations are the result of the pre-conditioned minds of readers.  The ahl-Hadith read the Quran keeping in mind every law and story of the Hadith and then they try to expound the Quranic verses according to the contents of the various Hadith narrations.  That's why the explanations of the ahl-Hadith are always wrong.  A lot of tafsir writers base their explanations on the false stories of people like Tabari and Ibn Kathir.  May Allah grant guidance to such folks.

The Hadith imperfections are also very correctly exposed here in this post. 

I think I know who the brother is who wrote this on Yahoo! Q&A.  I've read a few pieces written by him there too.  His name is Muhammad K.  He is a  Quran alone follower and realizes all deviations of Hadith.  So far I've found him very genuine and his writings contain very correct contents.

Thanks again sis, for the compilation of this post.  I request everyone to read it and send around please.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 04:38:22 pm »

Yes, for sure this is a very, very educational piece of work.  Thanks for the post sister Rose.  u r right sister Heba, I've also read that name Muhammad K. in several Quran discussion Q&A in Yahoo.  May Allah bless this brother for his illuminating insight and recognition of the truth.  Allah guides those who seek His guidance and who have a penchant for the truth.   May Allah, The Exalted, make the love for the Glorious Quran grow endlessly in our hearts & minds.  
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 07:05:50 am »



Excellent work that fully defines the power of the Noble Quran and the useless character of the Hadith.  This brother, Mohammed K., sounds a very intelligent person.  God Almighty bless him.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 01:44:36 pm »

No I dont read Any hadith and Need it. I love Quran.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 05:21:22 am »

JazekAllah Khair .. may Allah bless u, sister.
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