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« on: April 18, 2011, 03:47:59 am »

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There are people of certain circles who are trying to use Verses 20 and 21 of Surah Al-Maidah to falsely propagate that the Quran justifies the establishment of "Israel."  This includes the Zions and their allies and also some treacherous Arabs. 

First of all, please know in clear terms that neither Verses 5:20-21 nor any other verses throughout the 114 chapters of the Noble Quran have ever stated that "all Palestine belongs to the Jews" as falsely claimed by segments of the freemasons cult.  This is a gross misinterpretation of the Quran by these secretive manipulators to safeguard their political interest.

Let's begin our clarification by quoting Verses 20, 21 and 22 of Surah Al-Maidah.  Let us check for ourselves to see where does the Noble Quran mention that "all Palestine belongs to the Jews" as being claimed by the story-tellers.

"And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember Allah's favour unto you, how He placed among you prophets, and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of (His) creatures.  (5:20) 

O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers:   (5:21)

They said: O Moses! Lo! a giant people (dwell) therein and lo! we go not in till they go forth from thence. When they go forth from thence, then we will enter (not till then)."   (5:22)
 

All the above three Verses are very simple to understand. Only those with pre-conditioned and motivated minds would purposely misintepret them.   

Starting from verse 5:20, this refers to the blessings which the ancestors of the Monotheistic believers enjoyed before the time of Moses.  The reference is to the great Prophets namely Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph.  People with scant education are inclined to think that the rise of the Monotheistic believers began from the time of Moses.  But Allah asserts in Verse 5:20 that it actually began much prior to Moses.  Thus, Verse 5:20 is NO confirmation of Palestine belonging to the Jews. 

Now coming to Verse 5:21, Palestine was the homeland of Abraham and his direct descendents, Ishmael, Isaac and Jacob.  Later on, from evidence found in the Noble Quran, Abraham left Palestine and came to the Arabian peninsula where he and his son, Ishmael, built the Kaa'ba at Makkah.  At that time Makkah was called Becca.   Verse 5:21 directly refers to the period during the Exodus when Moses along with the Hebrews came out of Egypt.  Egypt was the original home of these Hebrew slaves where  they were being oppressed by Pharoah, and Moses rescued them at the command of Allah.  After Moses and the Hebrews left Egypt, for sometime during their journey they lived in the wilderness of the Sinai region adjacent to the northern borders of Arabia and the southern borders of Palestine.  It was also during this period that Moses received the Ten Commandments from Allah which the Jews later changed with their own hands.  Thus, in Verse 5:21 Moses is telling the Hebrews  to enter the "holy land" (now known as Palestine) which was ordained for them by Allah as a refuge after getting away from the oppression of Pharoah.  But Allah does NOT say in this Verse (nor in any other Verse) that the original inhabitants of the "holy land" (now Palestine) should leave their land for the sake of the Hebrews (or the Jews).  Allah NEVER gives any unjust command.  Such injustice is only the saying of the Zionists and their allies to strengthen their propaganda which has been proven in the next Verse, 5:22.

Please read Verse 5:22 above, where these Hebrews defy the instruction of Moses to enter the holy land.  They say that they won't enter the holy land unless the people who are already living there leave that land.  This was an unjust request for which Allah punished these Hebrews for making them wander bewildered for 40 years.   For reference, please check Verses 5:23-26  in continuation to the above quoted Verses:

"Then out spake two of those who feared (their Lord, men) unto whom Allah had been gracious: Enter in upon them by the gate, for if ye enter by it, lo! ye will be victorious. So put your trust (in Allah) if ye are indeed believers.   (5:23)

They said: O Moses! We will never enter (the land) while they are in it. So go thou and thy Lord and fight! We will sit here.  (5:24)

He said: My Lord! I have control of none but myself and my brother, so distinguish between us and the wrong-doing folk.  (5:25)

(Their Lord) said: For this the land will surely be forbidden them for forty years that they will wander in the earth, bewildered. So grieve not over the wrongdoing folk."   (5:26)


In the above Verses 5:23-26, it is clearly elucidated that the Jews blindly presumed that the indigenous people of the "holy land" would be hostile towards them, so they refused to enter that land.  Only two people amongst them who were obedient to Allah advised them the right method to enter, that is, through the "gate."  This is quite an obvious reference to entering as guests or newcomers (like the Makkan refugees came to Medinah).  But majority of the Hebrews refused and thus Allah states in Verse 5:26 that as a punishment for their refusal and disobedience to enter the holy land at the instruction of Moses, they were punished by Allah.  They were kept in a state of confusion in which they wandered about the desert for 40 years without entering the holy land.  This is the true incident.

Furthermore, Allah NEVER ordered Moses to invade or attack the "holy land."  This is another unfounded story that is contained in the altered Bible.  There is NO evidence of it in the Noble Quran.  The altered Bible as usual comes up with a lot of theatrics on this topic, primarily to justify the political set-up of 1948 when the Zions snatched Palestine by murdering thousands of Palestinians.  Let's not forget the only bit of truth about the Old and New Testaments, which is, they are changed and "updated" every few years, even more frequently than Microsoft softwares, to suit the current circumstances and ongoing political foulplay of the Zions and their allies.   Thus, the altered Bible mentions that  Prophet Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt and brought them to Mount Sinai.  Then it claims that Moses stayed there for a little over a year, received most of the Commandments of the Torah and commanded to lead the Israelites towards Palestine to conquer it.   According to the man-written altered Bible, Moses sent a deputation of the Hebrews to spy on Palestine.  Briefly put, this deputation returned with disappointing reports and so the Hebrews refused to enter this land.  And then, as a punishment they were made to wander in the desert for 40 days.  As we can see, all those details about Moses planning to attack the holy land and sending spies out there are completely absent in the Noble Quran.  There is no evidence anywhere in the Quran that Moses acted like an army commander, planning to forcibly usurp the holy land for the Hebrews and worked with spies.  On the contrary, the Quran expresses the notion of Moses entering the promised land with his people peacefully, like guests, through the city "gate." 

The clear message conveyed by the Quran is that Moses was commanded to take the Hebrews to the holy land where they were to co-exist with the indigenous people of that land and NOT kick them out.  This concept is abundantly clear and cannot be disputed .

It is only the Noble Quran that's the final Word of Allah, unaltered and fully original.  As Quran only followers, we are to take every bit of information from the Quran.  Everything else from other sources is subject to doubt, controversy and plenty of manipulations for selfish purposes.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 02:51:00 pm »

Very logically written, dear sister.  This is a very educational piece.  I have pondered on verse 5:23 several times, and I agree with you.  The words "Enter in upon them by the gate, for if ye enter by it, lo! ye will be victorious." seems to express the view to enter openly and not surreptitiously to let the people of that land know that their intent is to live in harmony after escaping oppression, and their intent is not to fight or use force to snatch the land.  And "victorious" apparently refers to winning the approval of the people.  There is surely no indication of telling the people of the holy land to leave to make room for the Jews.  You're absolutely right.  There are no such unjust commands from Allah.   
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 12:07:49 am »

MashAllah, thanks for this one sister Heba.  It's been very rationally analysed.   May Allah grant us plenty of love for the truth.  ameen. 

And also thanks for putting it up so fast dear sis. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 12:38:47 am »

This is a great and very important topic.  You are right the Zions are misinterpreting it by taking it out of context and mixing it up with man-written stories. 

Thanks for being brave and taking the responsibility of analysing it so well, sister Heba.  From Verse 20 to 26 of Surah Al-Maidah, this is undeniably the best tafsir I've read, being totally focused on the Quran without drifting away to human writings as sources which all our so-called scholars do with a straight face without even being aware of their blunders.   JazekAllah Khairyan.
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