Message #10909

[N. Truth Seeker]

MashAllah, dynamic thread.  First time I've come across such a bizarre question on Imam Hussein.  I don't know what the ignorant questioner had in mind other than thinking to trap you, not knowing that the answer to such a question is so very simple.  But most Hadithists don't have a clue of the wide diferences between hadith and history.  That's what makes them indulge in still greater stupidity.  Both Hadithists as well as Free Mind modernists have been completely unable to differentiate between hadith and history.  While the Hadithist think hadith and history are the same, the Free Minders in order to abolish the credibility of hadith, abolish history too by equating the two similarly as the hadithists do.  That's because both Hadithists and Free Minders are too foolish to know the difference so the former tries to mingle both while the latter tries to dismiss both.  Both views are plainly incorrect.  Not boasting, but we are the only ones who have got it right. That article on difference between history & hadith is fantastic.  I sent it to lots of relatives and friends.  Everyone found it spectacular.  I have also been meaning to take it as an agenda of our future weekly offline discussions with the specific group of friends, but haven't gotten about as yet.  InshAllah will take it soon.

This thread discussion on Eid-al-Adha and Eid-al-Fitr was also very informative and open.  Thank you very much sisters.  The guy who put that question in the blog ought to get it very well.  But if he's a staunch Hadithist he will purposely crush his rationale and reject it .. which would mean rejecting the facts of the Quran, and which unfortunately does not make Hadithists uncomfortable.

I had also read, I think at the Quran dot org website, that the idea of a celebration after Ramadan introduced by Bukhari & co. through the Hadith is basically a pre-Islamic idea.  In pre-Islamic societies including Europe, Middle-East, Far-East, Central Asia etc., almost all of them had this old polytheistic tradition marking the end of a religious month or a religious event with a celebration which would basically include partying with plenty of food and wine.  Of course, in good Muslim homes even if they spend a lot, it's mostly without Haram stuff like wine etc.  But what I mean is that the concept brought by Bukhari & co.  was from those old un-Islamic traditions.  After all, Bukhari & co.'s ancestors were zoroastrians and they had plenty of such traditions in their families even after they converted to Islam.  This is how such issues have been introduced in Islam.