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« on: October 28, 2011, 01:25:32 pm »

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By the Dawn
And ten nights,
And the Even and the Odd
And the night when it departeth,

(89:1-4) Surah Al-Fajr

As-Salam Alaykum folks.  The month of Dhul Hajj has begun.  First 10 days of the month of Hajj are important even for those who are not performing Hajj.  They too need to be more regular with their worship of Allah.  It's a good idea to offer some extra nafl rakat of prayers every day, praise Allah (do zikr) still more and read the Noble Quran.  I'm trying hard to find extra time to put in some extra Ibadat.  May Allah, The Almighty, keep guiding us always.

I also have a question here for which InshAllah, one of you might have some feedback. It's regarding the verses I've quoted above from Surah Al-Fajr.  Most of our imams and ulemas keep saying very confidently that the "ten nights" mentioned above in Verse 89:2 refer to the first 10 days of Hajj.  Some say these 10 days are even more important than Ramadan.  However, the Quran does not give us any evidence to presume that these refer to the 10 nights of the month of Dhul Hajj.   There are several Surahs in the Quran that begin with oaths e.g. on the morning hours, stillness of the night, the sun, moon, the fig and the olive etc.  Surah Al-Fajr seems to have a similar beginning with an oath on the wonders of Allah's creation, that is, the dawn and the 10 nights of the month, and obviously the count of 10 has even and odd numbers.  But I don't understand why the ulemas connect it with the first 10 days of the month of Hajj.  Any info will be welcomed.   Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 02:05:15 pm »

Walaikum Salaam sister Ruhi.  Yes, the month of Hajj has begun and though we are not performing Hajj, it's important to put in extra time to remember and praise Allah through salat, reading of the Quran, zikr and charity (whatever one can afford).

You are right that there is absolutely no reason to presume that the "ten nights" refer to the first ten days of the month of Hajj.  Yet the "ulemas" insist that it does.   As usual, there's a hadith about 10 days of sacrifice and the jurists have blindly jumped on the presumption that it refers to the "ten nights" mentioned in Surah 89:2.  But it doesn't.  Here's that hadith.

Ibn 'Abbas narrated that Prophet [saw] said: "There is no deed more precious in the sight of Allah, or greater in reward, than a good deed done during the ten days of Sacrifice ......"

This hadith is the usual rambling of folks who never knew a word of the Quran.  Needless to say, just ignore it.

In my opinion, the connection of this Hadith with Verse 89:2 has started fairly recently by the jurists of the younger generation.  If you read some of the old tafsirs e.g. by Maududi, they don't mention anything about Verse 89:2 referring to the ten nights of Hajj.  In fact Maududi (who is comparatively an old tafsir writer) in his tafsir has mentioned that these verses have been interpreted in dozens of different ways by different commentators.    He does not explain the "ten nights" as the first ten days of Hajj.  Instead he explains them as implying to each group of the ten nights among the thirty nights of the month (that is, any or every month).  About the terms "Even and the Odd" he too is not sure.  He says it may imply to everything in the universe which exist either in pairs or in singles.  Here it seems to me that Maududi's explanations are more sensible than those of the other imams who keep associating these verses with the month of Hajj.

However, to sum it up, references of the terms "ten nights" and "Even and the Odd" have by no means been confirmed to us by Allah.  We only know that Allah Almighty swears an oath by them but only Allah knows what exactly these expressions refer to.  Thus, we will simply have to leave matters there.   We certainly cannot go about presuming they refer to the month of Hajj.  That will be a complete guesswork and guessworks should not be applied in the study of the Quran.  Whatever hasn't been confirmed, we must simply leave that to Allah. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 10:07:35 pm »

Thanks you so much sis.  This is the info I was looking for.   These imams and jurists make such incorrect references, complete concoctions of their minds, that those who think and reflect end very confused.  Your very honest comment was very refreshing.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 10:30:53 pm »

Good question and very truthfully explained.  And how do the jurists think they have the authority to declare that these 10 days are more important than Ramadan or less?   These imams and "ulemas" don't realize the violation of such sweeping assertions on the basis of their whims of matters concerning which Allah has given them NO authority to make such declarations. 

Another example, check the folloing Hadith.  Just take a look at the authoritative confirmations which are not contained in the Quran, yet these folks putting their own stamps of approval on their own ideas. 

“There are no better days to worship Allah than the first ten days of Dhul Hijjah. One day of fasting performed on those days is equal to the fasting of one year; the prayers performed on each night are equal to the Night of Power.” (Tirmidhi: Sawm, 52; Ibn Majah: Siyam, 39)

"One day of fasting" in one of these days equal to one year of fasting and every night prayer equal to Leilatul Qadr.  Would the Prophet (S) ever make such declarations on his own about important issues like these for which Allah did not give him the authority to decide?  Never.  Of course I realize it's a very important month, that's why Allah wants us to perform Hajj and visit the Kaaba.  Also those not performing Hajj will do a great favor to their souls if they offer extra worship.  But these specific confirmations like one fast  equal to one year and one night prayer being equal to Leilatul Qadr only show how little the imams & ulemas fear Allah.  About Leilatul Qadr, Allah mentions in the Quran that the "Night of Power is better than a thousand months."  How can any human being have the authority to make a prayer on any other night equal to that? 

May Allah Almighty grant guidance to the Hadithists. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2016, 07:58:43 am »

Salaam all
Can you confirm using the Quran what the eligible time scale is for performing hajj please?

Jzk

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2016, 08:46:38 am »

Wa'salaam.  Yes, we recently discussed this point in our Hajj post.  Please visit the following link and you'll find the relevant contents from the 10th post onward.

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=2418.0
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