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« on: November 04, 2011, 10:11:50 am »

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"And in the night-time hymn His praise, and after the (prescribed) prostrations."  (50:40)


Can anyone please tell me what the (prescribed) prostrations refer to?
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 10:16:46 am »



Salaam sister.  It refers to the five obligatory prayers.   This verse implies to Tahajjud prayers after completing the five obligatory prayers along with its prostrations throughout the day.

(1) Wamina   (2) Al-layli    (3) Fasabbih hu    (4) Wa adbara   (5) l-Sujudi

A word by word translation of this would be:

(1) And of   (2) the night   (3) glorify Him   (4) and after   (5) the prostration.

As you would know, wherever in the Noble Quran the terms praise and glorification have been mentioned, these terms imply or indicate the specific timings of the five daily salaat.  Glorifying or praising Allah Almighty after being free from the prescribed prostrations refers to the voluntary prayers.  And since this verse refers to nighttime or layl, therefore, it must be Tahajjud or salaat-al-Leyl.

The words "And of the night glorify Him" could also refer to the regular obligatory Isha prayers.  Following which, the words "and after the prostration" surely refer to glorifying Allah during Tahajjud and salaat al-Leyl, that is, offering Tahajjud and/or salaat al-Leyl.  Or, it might be referring only to night prayers (Tahajjud and Leyl).  However, in either case, Tahajjud / salaat al-Leyl have been placed after the obligatory prayers.

Thanks for asking this question sister Ruhi.  It also throws some light on a question that I was undecided about - whether or not Tahajjud prayer in obligatory.  This verse might refer to Tahajjud being important but not exactly obligatory because it's mentioned as coming after the obligatory or prostrations performed during the five obligatory salaat.  The word "prescribed" has been added by Pickthall in brackets to indicate the meaning of obligatory prayers.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 10:52:16 am »



Oh, o!  okay.  thanks as always sis.  I just didn't connect prescribed prostrations with the fard salaat.  It's now absolutely clear  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 08:56:18 am »



This verse might refer to Tahajjud being important but not exactly obligatory because it's mentioned as coming after the obligatory or prostrations performed during the five obligatory salaat. 

Concerning Tahajjud prayers, whether or not it's obligatory for all believers ... I would like to quote Verse 11:114 Surah Hud.

"Establish worship at the two ends of the day and in some watches of the night. Lo! good deeds annul ill-deeds. This is reminder for the mindful."   (11:114).

People often say Tahajjud was obligatory or fard only for the Prophet (pbuh).  But if you check this Verse, it first refers to performing Zohr and Asr (or some may take it as Maghrib) and then to performing night prayers ("some watches of the night") which is quite obviously Tahajjud, not Isha.  The last sentence of this Ayat "This is reminder for the mindful." makes it clear that it's not addressed only to the Prophet (pbuh) but to everyone. 

However, apparently, Tahajjud prayers can be of any length.  Some might awake during some portion of the night and offer 10 rakats.  Someone else might awake and offer 2 rakats.  That is obviously a matter of choice.  But I clearly get the impression that in Verse 11:114 where Tahajjud is categorically referred, is addressed to everyone.

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 09:06:51 am »



Thanks Sister Heba.  I'm inclined to agree with that.  As you stated, length of Tahajjud prayer is apparently a matter of choice.  Do you also think the obligatory status of Tahajjud means it must be performed every night.  Or, can we say it's obligatory, in that, it must be performed by everyone at least a few times during their lifetime. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 09:17:41 am »



  Do you also think the obligatory status of Tahajjud means it must be performed every night.  Or, can we say it's obligatory, in that, it must be performed by everyone at least a few times during their lifetime. 

That's a very good point.  We know that Allah does not want to make anything difficult for us.  There are folks who work very hard throughout the day and are too exhausted at night.  There are also folks who are old, frail or simply ailing in poor health.  For all those in such categories it isn't easy to awake every night.  I mean this is a practical issue.  If we understand it, Allah understands it far better.  Thus on the basis of such a perception, the answer to your question would quite obviously be 'yes.'   It's very likely that the obligatory status of Tahajjud alludes to offering it at least few times in one's lifetime or maybe at least once in a lifetime.  It will surely be a very valuable piece of asset to carry on our final journey to the next world.  Therefore, the more the better.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 09:28:45 am »



Shukran again Sister.  Very succinctly put.  Makes perfect sense.

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 05:01:06 am »



You're welcomed Sis. 

But I discovered there's some confusion over the translations of Verse 11:114 concerning the expression "some watches of the night."  I'm doing further research and also consulting the Quran dictionary.  Will clarify very soon InshAllah.  Just give me a few days. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2017, 06:04:11 am »



Yeah Sis, the translators have some differences over that part of Verse 11:114.  While Pickthall and Haleem have translated it as "some watches of the night" and "parts of the night" respectively ..... other translators (including the Corpus dictionary) have mentioned "early watches of the night" or "approach of the night" etc.

However, I just now checked your much earlier post "Let us take some time out for Tahajjud" where you've clarified this point on whether or not Tahajjud is obligatory for all of us.  Tahajjud is definitely strongly recommended for all, not just the Prophet (pbuh), whenever and as often as one can.  And for that of course, one must first be regular with one's obligatory (fard) prayers.  The matter is quite clear to me.
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