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« on: December 20, 2011, 11:16:55 pm »

The resemblance in the discussion between defending the Bible by Christian clerics and defending the Hadith by Muslim clerics is so glaring that it's almost hilarious!  Cheesy

Now, I'll tell you what.  I caught this first hand.  LOL.

Concerning the huge contradictions in various versions of the altered and bungled up Bibles on the falsehood that Virgin Mary married Joseph, one of the bible versions called Matthew (which is a hub of tales and deceit) claims in its several verses that Virgin Mary went on to marry Joseph after giving birth to Jesus.  In some verses it also mentions that she married Joseph before the birth of Jesus but he had no union with Mary until she gave birth and he named the baby Jesus.  All a big pile of false gossips.   From what I've heard, it's only the Christian orthodox church that sticks to the truth at least on this topic by acknowledging that Virgin Mary never married for the rest of her life after giving birth to Jesus.   But more than 90% of Christians believe in the vandalism of the altered Bible writers and accept their lies.  There are also many Christians who are confused between the conflicting opinion of the orthodox church and the bibles.  Some are also confused on the inconsistency over the descriptions of the various blah blah blah of Matthew and other versions.    It's exactly the same bewilderment which many Muslims face over the contradictions within the 'chinese whispers' of the notorious Hadith on many topics.

Interestingly enough, I happened to come across a website accidently where a Christian woman was answering the questions of a confused Bible reader who was apparently being driven baloney by the manipulations of the altered Bible.  It made me realize that the Bible and the Hadith are not only similar in contents but the confusion and stress they cause to those who read them are also of the same type.

When I came across this website, I also found an evidence for something I suspected for long.  The Hadith practice of insulting the Quran by claiming that the "Quran cannot be understood without the Hadith" is a notion borrowed from the Christian clerics and spiritualists who never quite learned the importance of the Monothesitic Faith nor did they give Prophet Jesus son of Virgin Mary any respect ever. 

I quote below that Christian woman's defense for the altered Bible.  Isn't this precisely the way the Hadithists defend the Ahadith?  Ditto !!

You will also observe in the following passage that the lies spoken by this Christian spiritualist trying to justify the lies of the Bible are just as pathetic as the struggle of our imams who try to defend the Hadith.  The Bible teachers also admit that the Bible keeps changing periodically and the various versions are at odds.  These people are so doused in the ignorance of falsehood that that importance of retaining the original words of Allah Almighty simply has no place in their hearts nor minds.  Shameful !!  No wonder the New World Order has gone down the gutters.  If someone doesn't even harbor the notion of being true to God Almighty, how can they be true to other nations or to themselves ??

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The Bible does not always explain itself. On many occasions, it requires an external system of interpretation to understand what God teaches us in His Word. The Bible sometimes reveals totally contradictory teachings, and some tradition behind these passages have always been needed and used to harmonize and explain them. For instance, one Scripture verse says that faith alone brings salvation.   Another verse says that good deeds alone bring salvation. In another instance, there are various verses saying that God hardens hearts and forces people to become Christians, while other verses say that God doesn't do this, that people have total free will to choose eternal salvation or eternal damnation. So an external source of interpretation is required for anyone to harmonize such contradictions and inconsistencies behind what God is saying.  The ancient Jews and early Christians called this system of Bible interpretation "Tradition", which was recognized to have derived through the prophets and apostles and their disciples.   Tradition was considered to be equal to Scripture and it was just as well-preserved as the Bible.  Anyone who deviated from the original interpretation of Scripture was immediately recognized as anti-biblical or heretical. In this way, Tradition has always been the only way to understand God's words and to determine true from false religion.  Throughout history there have been new traditions appearing and competing with the original Tradition. Some have died out and some still survive. This is what we face with the issue of Jesus's siblings. In this case, the original Tradition and a new tradition on how to interpret the Bible are at odds.
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I think all Biblers and Hadithists should now shake hands and then hide themselves in shame.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 11:39:50 pm »

WTF ?!!   The bible has itself been altered and this person is saying that the traditions help to understand the bible ????  Altered bible is the made up "tradition" that's not a Divine message no more.  There's hardly any difference between Christian traditions and the Bible.  Both are man-written, both contradict each other and both are periodically altered. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2011, 03:34:58 am »

hahaha, what a striking resemblance between defenders of the altered Bible and the Hadith.  When the mind deviates enough not to realize the preciousness and value of the Divine words, it keeps rolling within its own contradictions and the errors only keep piling up.
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