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« on: January 29, 2012, 02:41:50 pm »

There's a facebook page called "songs and pictures from Palestine."  This pic was posted there.  It's a print or art created in 1860 from an engraving.   The engraving was supposed to be of a site known as Al-Haram Al-Ibrahimi or the Sanctuary of Abraham.   It's also known as the Tomb of the Patriarchs.  It's a famous landmark in the Palestinian city of Hebron.    The mosque seen in this picture is about a thousand years old which is said to contain the tombs of Prophets Ibrahim, Ishaq, Yakub (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) and their wives.   

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 03:50:01 pm »

Btw, this is how it looks at present.


Here is a picture of the interior of the mosque (or one of the mosques on this site)



And this is how it looked in 1906.



It's history:

The enclosure was made into a mosque during the reign of Umar bin Khattab.  Palestine came under Muslim rule in that period.  As I understand, it's a huge area and consists of more than one mosque.

Considered to be the fourth holiest site in Islam.   The basic structure is said to be built in 1500 BC. It's said that the massive stones of the walls built without mortar were done by the Jinn who used to work for Prophet Solomon.   It has been renovated by successive rulers.   Formerly it had 4 square minarets of which only 2 remain at present.

The cenotaphs of the Patriarchs (pbut) are richly decorated and covered with green tapestries embroidered with Qur'anic verses. They are believed to stand exactly over the burial place of the Patriarchs.

Prophet Joseph's tomb is also said to be in this site, probably in the south corner of the enclosure.  The photo below shows the area of Joseph's tomb.


 The wall surrounding the structure as an enclosure was supposed to have been built by the Jewish king Herod.

And the biggest tragedy!   After Zionist occupation of the West Bank, Al-Haram Al-Ibrahimi has also been occupied by the Zions and is under their tight security.  Photo below.


Read more at this link:
http://www.atlastours.net/holyland/sanctuary_of_abraham.html
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 05:09:17 pm »

Hummm ,, this is an interesting piece as history always is.  But are the Prophets Abraham, his son, grandson and great grandson with their wives really buried here at Hebron?  From Abraham to Joseph, the era dates back to at least 2,000 BC or over 4,000 years from now.  Could anyone really keep track of the burial places of those buried at a period before history began being recorded systematically?  How would anyone even know that all of them lived and died in Hebron except from the information they read in the altered Old & New Testaments which cannot be trusted for its authenticity one bit?
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 05:21:36 pm »

Yes exactly sister Heba.  What you stated has a very precise point.  That's why I mentioned of all these reports as "supposed to be" and "said to be."  This information is based only on the claims of biblical history.  It's very likely that this entire structure came to be known as the burial site of Abraham's family through biblical story .. in fact I'm sure it did otherwise there's no other source.  We know the Quran does not mention about this site.  Thus, the site is considered important for Muslims, Christians and Jews alike.  Monumented graves (cenotaph) are present for the Prophets mentioned and their wives and also accepted by Muslims, but only Allah knows best if those pious people are really buried there.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 05:47:26 pm »

Yeah sis, I understand you.  Especially regarding the burial place of Joseph, the bibles have said such contradictory and complicated stuff that they've almost made a joke out of it.  This is what happens when people interfere with matters about which the reality is not known to them. 

Some biblical stories say that Prophet Joseph died in Egypt while some claim he died in Nablus,  when history talks of the tomb of the patriarchs it says that Joseph is buried in Hebron with his ancestors and the altered Torah says that Joseph's remains were carried by Moses to Cannan for burial.  Cannan is at present known as Gaza.  So you see, 4 different stories regarding Joseph's burial site. 

We know through the Noble Quran that Prophet Joseph did go to Egypt after his brothers threw him in a dry well or a pit and he was accidently picked up by a water drawer and taken to Egypt.  From there his fate took him to be reared in the house of one of the pharaohs and eventually he became the custodian of the storehouse and a trusted worker of the king of Egypt.   Apparently the Torah accepts this but additionally it has made up the story concerning his burial.  According to one version of the altered bible Joseph died and was buried in Egypt.  Not just him but his family which came to Egypt from Cannan were given permission by the pharaoh to live in Egypt were also buried in Egypt.  This story is further woven in which Joseph is claimed to have said that he and his family would one day go back to the land of Abraham.  So when Joseph died he wasn't buried but his coffin was kept for hundreds of years which was taken to the promised land by Prophet Moses during the Exodus and buried there.  Totally ridiculous story constructed by the Zionists through their altered bible.
   
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 05:53:42 pm »

Gosh!  this is crazy.  Joseph's coffin lying for over a thousand years and then his remains, bones rather, being taken to the promised land by Moses.  This myth even beats the dramas of Bukhari & co.

And what's the story about Joseph being buried in Nablus?
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 06:29:19 pm »

Some Jewish authorities have said that the idea of Joseph being buried in Nablus arose from the Muslims.  But that's obviously not correct.  Muslims already accept Joseph's grave being at the tomb of the patriarchs which is in Hebron .... unless there's some Hadith which claims Joseph was buried in Nablus which the Muslims ignore and continue believing Joseph's tomb to be at Hebron.  Officially, according to Islamic tradition, the biblical Joseph is buried in Hebron, next to the cave of the patriarchs where a medieval structure known as Yussuf-Kalah, the "Castle of Joseph", is located.

Now here is the funny part of the story.  Some Jews claim Joseph's tomb is located in Nablus, West Bank.   But this is highly controversial within the Jewish community itself.  Conflicting views exist as to whether or not Joseph was buried there.  Yet, the tomb is recognized as Joseph's shrine, albeit a minor one. According to Jewish Hadith in the altered Torah, when Moses brought Joseph's remains to the promised land, Joseph was buried in the biblical town of Shechem which is situated close to the present-day town of Nablus.  But most archeologists say that the site is only a few centuries old so obviously it cannot be the tomb of Joseph.  Additionally it's also said that some medieval Muslim scholar or sheikh was buried in Nablus whose name was Yusuf (the Arabic version of the name Joseph) and that's apparently made some Jews think that the Prophet Joseph was buried in Nablus   Cheesy

~ sigh ~  !!!!

I don't know why people cannot give up meddling with the unknown.  
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 06:38:17 pm »

O dear !!  LOL  teethsmile.  Well, actually I just put this up for interesting reading, nothing else.  With the sort of conflicting opinions that exist, one cannot even be sure that the Sanctuary of Abraham or tomb of the patriarchs is authentic.  Only Allah knows best.  And as you correctly said, it's impossible to keep an accurate trace of such info that date back to more than 4,000 years. 

Thanks for educating us on this topic, sister Heba.  Now our readers should know exactly where all this information stands.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 06:39:42 pm »

u r welcomed sis  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 05:33:52 am »

It's very nice and interesting to read this but I have my doubts if these tombs genuinely belong to the persons they're supposed to.  Very doubtful.


 Additionally it's also said that some medieval Muslim scholar or sheikh was buried in Nablus whose name was Yusuf (the Arabic version of the name Joseph) and that's apparently made some Jews think that the Prophet Joseph was buried in Nablus   Cheesy   

This is the kind of thing that happens in all such cases .. I mean, it's impossible to keep track and be sure of tombs of persons who passed away more than 4,000 years ago particularly in view of biblical myths & tales that were going on in full swing in the A.D. era.  They just didn't allow a shred of truth to remain .. changed everything they possibly could.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 09:37:30 am »

Very true Ruhi.
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