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Is 'perfection' or 'infallibility' inherent of humans?

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« on: April 30, 2012, 02:53:15 am »

Nicey topic folks! Smiley  Both inputs have helped to educate me on this matter.   I've spoken to a few sunnis and shiias on this issue, fortunately not the very bigoted ones.  They claimed that by "infallibility" or "perfection" they didn't mean being literally perfect.  But then you're right.  Why use such terms to give rise of needless confusion?  They also said that there's a difference between "small mistakes" and "big sins" and Prophets might have made small mistakes but no big sins.  This is of course true.  But in this case the title of "infallible" or being "perfect" becomes inapplicable.  Those folks cannot understand this point.  What they also don't understand is when Prophets sometimes made small mistakes and acknowledged their mistakes by asking forgiveness of Allah and never intentionally repeated those mistakes are also lessons of humility for us which give us another important reason to follow them.   Therefore, I too see the aspect of Prophets making small mistakes as humans and then correcting themselves as something positive for us.

Just a few examples from the Noble Quran to clarify what I mean by "small mistakes" : Quoting verses from Surah Al-Mujadilah, Surah Abasa and Surah Al-Ahzab.


"Allah hath heard the saying of her that disputeth with thee (Muhammad) concerning her husband, and complaineth unto Allah. And Allah heareth your colloquy. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower." 58:1 Surah Al-Mujadilah

This Verse 58:1 was revealed when a woman complained to the Prophet about her husband who had abandoned her by saying that she was like his mother to him. The incident is supposed to have been in which the Prophet unknowingly did not think the issue to be important and therefore didn't pay any attention to the woman's complaints. But Allah did realize that this was a serious issue and therefore revealed this verse and the following verses of the same Surah to inform the Prophet of something that didn't occur to him. 


"He frowned and turned away
Because the blind man came unto him.
Or take heed and so the reminder might avail him ?
As for him who thinketh himself independent,
Unto him thou payest regard.
Yet it is not thy concern if he grow not (in grace).
But as for him who cometh unto thee with earnest purpose
And hath fear,
From him thou art distracted." (80:1-10) Surah Abasa.


The above Verses 1 to 10 of Surah Abasa are very significant in the topic of our discussion. I'm sure if you read them carefully you'll find the Verses very simple to understand. Allah Almighty points to the Prophet (pbuh) a little mistake he made which is commonly made by many of us by paying greater attention of the rich & powerful compared to a poor man or a commoner .. in this case the common man was also blind.  In these verses Allah Almighty tells the Prophet (pbuh) of his mistake which the Prophet immediately realized.


"The Prophet is closer to the believers than their selves, and his wives are (as) their mothers. And the owners of kinship are closer one to another in the ordinance of Allah than (other) believers and the fugitives (who fled from Mecca), except that ye should do kindness to your friends. This is written in the Book (of nature)." (33:6) Surah Al-Ahzab.

This above Verse 33:6 has great significance. In Medinah the Prophet (pbuh) established the relationship of brotherhood between the Ansars (residents of Medinah) and the Mohajirs (fugitives from Makkah who came to Medinah), a relationship that was considered closer than blood relationship. But after the revelation of Verse 33:6, that concept of Ansars & Mohajirs being closer than real or biological brothers was abolished (particularly as far as inheritance was concerned). In other words, Verse 33:6 is the order from Allah to the Prophet to change that law which he previously made. That's because in the ordinance of Allah, blood relationship or family comes before friends. 
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