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« on: June 16, 2012, 05:35:22 pm »

 

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Before proceeding to read this detailed and important write-up, I would suggest to the readers to kindly go through the following website of Jammat-ul-Muslimeen.  This is a Hadithist organization making failed efforts to defend the ridiculous Hadith institution which has been a liability for Islam since the past 1200 years.

http://www.aljamaat.org/islam/articles/a18.htm

The organization, Jammat-ul-Muslimeen, is so drowned in treachery that for the purpose of supporting Hadith it's picking up verses of the Quran and claiming that if Allah can mention of the super natural,  why not Hadith?  It's difficult to explain to folks with such limited minds that Allah is the All Knower, All Powerful and All Knowing.  HE speaks on the basis of the knowledge of the unseen.  Did Bukhari and his cronies know the unseen?   Allah Almighty is the Omnipotent.   Did Bukhari and his associates have unlimited power like Allah ??

Whatever we know about the universe and this earth might seem like a lot to us but it's very little compared to everything we still don't know.  Complete knowledge about the earth and universe belongs to Allah only and Allah speaks the truth in the Quran on the basis of HIS endless knowledge, many of which belong to the unseen.    Even modern scientists, astronomers, physicists and medical experts  have acknowledged that there is plenty they still do not know and most likely will never know.    The very limited perception of Jamat-ul Muslimeen which has been further marred by its desire to be the advocate of the diabolical Hadith cannot understand this aspect.  It's goal is only to defend, justify and continue spreading  the falsehood invented and forged by the Hadith narrators and imams and thus misguide the people.

Attempts by the Jammat-ul-Muslimeen to compare the man-written Hadith with the DIVINE Quran are not only rude but thoroughly illogical and incorrect.  Hadith does not speak on the basis of the unseen.  Hadith is a man-written literature with absolutely no knowledge of the unseen.   And like all man-written works, Hadith has  many versions, many contradictions and many flaws.   We will analyze this in detail as you read on.

Jammat-ul-Muslimeen purposely portrays the Hadith criticism in the wrong sense with the intention of upholding its own incorrect arguments to defend the stupidity & maliciousness of Hadith.   Although all sections of the Ahadith are peppered with indecent and absurd narrations, yet it's surprising that the Jammat-ul-Muslimeen has hardly quoted any Hadith while making it's comparisons with the Quran.   The Jammat has quoted only the Quranic verses and made their comparisons with various Ahadith by only mentioning the titles of those Ahadith.  How wickedly clever these Jammatis are !!   Let me tell the Jammat that this is a very incomplete and discrepant method of comparison.    We will now expose what the Jammat is desperately trying to conceal.  


HADITH PROBLEM NO.1

Hadith contradicts the Quran

It's not just the incorrect miracles narrated in the Hadith that are absurd but the Hadith contents frequently contradict the Quranic information.  Needless to say, this is totally unacceptable.   For example, the Quran confirms that Essa son of Virgin Maryam did not die on the cross but Allah made him ascend to the heavens by HIS command.  But Hadith adds to it by claiming that Essa will also descend into the earth as a sign of the Last Day.   The Hadith has borrowed this aspect from the altered Bible.  This is NOT Quranic information at all.  On the contrary the Quran has asserted in many verses that the Last Day will come unawares without any signs of warning.  Check the following verses for confirmation.

"They ask thee of the (destined) Hour, when will it come to port. Say: Knowledge thereof is with my Lord only. He alone will manifest it at its proper time. It is heavy in the heavens and the earth. It cometh not to you save unawares. They question thee as if thou couldst be well informed thereof. Say: Knowledge thereof is with Allah only, but most of mankind know not." (7:187)
 
"Say: For myself I have no power to benefit, nor power to hurt, save that which Allah willeth. Had I knowledge of the Unseen, I should have abundance of wealth, and adversity would not touch me. I am but a warner, and a bearer of good tidings unto folk who believe."(7:188)


Alhumdulilah, with these two lovely verses from the Glorious Quran, all those trashy Bukhari ahadith with bickerings about the "signs of the Last Day" and "Mahdi and Prophet Essa returning as a sign of end of times" must be totally rejected as nonsense.  All such concepts ensuing from tons of ahadith concerning the "signs of Qaiyamah" have been CONFIRMED as false in the words of Allah, The Almighty, Himself.

So, why must the Hadith babble such matters  that are completely unwarranted in the Quran?  The purpose of the Hadith must be to compliment the Quran, NOT to contradict the Quran nor to add any information on its own which is absent in the Noble Quran.  We must remember that the Quran is complete and perfect (refer V.5:3).  Allah does NOT forget anything.   Whatever is not mentioned in the Quran is because Allah decided not to mention it.  

Why does Hadith order its own prohibitions independently from the Quran?

Hadith prohibits men from wearing gold and silk and prohibits women from wearing perfume.  But the Quran warns mankind including the Prophet not to prohibit or ban anything which Allah has not disallowed them.  This aspect has been explicitly defined in Surah At-Tahrim (or Banning).

"O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that which Allah has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."  (66:1)   Kindly read this Surah further.

Does the Quran disallow the use of gold, silk and perfume for anyone?  No it doesn't.  So why does Bukhari talk such nonsense and who gave him the authority to make his own rules?



HADITH PROBLEM NO.2

Hadith mocks the great character of our beloved Prophet (SAAW)

Allah has categorically confirmed the exemplary character of the Prophet again and again in the Quran.   Allah has stated that the Prophet has a "tremendous" character.  Yet Hadith mocks the beloved Prophet (saaw) with a barrage of insults and false allegations.  There is a hadith that falsely implies that the Prophet married Aisha against the will of her father, Abu Bakr.  I quote that Hadith as follows:

[colorred=thistle]Sahih al-Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18: Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."[/color]

By writing such false ahadith full of lies, Imam Bukhari has made obvious his evil intent of mocking our most beloved Prophet (salallah alayhi wasallam).  The Hadithists have tried to bring face-saving excuses to say that this Hadith does not mean what it sounds but to no avail.  This false Hadith has every intent to slander the Prophet.

Then again, there's another disgracefully unauthentic Hadith that implies the Prophet allowed people to drink something as filthy as raw camel urine.  Needless to say, this is IMPOSSIBLE !!!!  I quote that Hadith as under:

Sahih Al Bukhari - Volume 7, Book 71, Number 590:
Narrated Anas: “The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine. So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.”


Apart from the fact that this hadith is propagating an outrageous practice of drinking camel urine, it's also falsely & rudely mocking the Prophet (SAAW) by making him appear as a cruel person.  Of course, it goes without saying, the Prophet's real temperament was one of infinite kindness and tenderness.   The Hadith propagates these obnoxious lies even though Allah has confirmed in the Noble Quran that HE sent the Prophet (saaw) as a mercy to mankind.  Also, the Quran lays great emphasis on physical cleanliness.  Nowhere does the Quran even remotely hint upon humans drinking urine.  Was Bukhari mad or what?  If Bukhari was a decent and sensible person, why did he not reject such a narration instead of compiling it?

There is another false and rude Hadith that discreetly accuses the Prophet (s) of being unclean by mocking the Prophet's impeccable standard of hygiene, claiming that he had lice on his head.

Sahih al-Bukhari (Ref: 9.130) Narrated Anas bin Malik:            
Allah's Messenger used to visit Um Haram bint Milhan and she was the wife of Ubada bin As-Samit. One day the Prophet visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head. Then Allah's Messenger slept and afterwards woke up smiling.


This unauthentic and impertinent Hadith jeers at the Prophet (saaw) by wrongly accusing him of having lice, and secondly, it also indirectly accuses the Prophet of immorality by spending time informally with a non-mehram woman.    May the curse of Allah be on the Hadith narrators and compilers!  

Then again, there is a false Hadith that accuses the Prophet of virtual racism and rudeness by insulting a black Ethiopian man comparing his head with a raisin.  That Hadith is quoted beneath:

Sahih Bukhari - Volume 9, Book 89, Number 256:Narrated Anas bin Malik:Allah’s Apostle said, “You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin.”

The Quran explicitly tells us not to insult others with derogatory nicknames.  Would a humble, gentle and civilized person like the Prophet ever humiliate anyone in this manner?  The answer is definitely NO.   Also, The Noble Quran is totally against any racist references.   When you are reading the Quran, you will observe that NO word equivalent of race is used in any of the verses.  Race is absolutely insignificant in the Quran.  A person can only be superior to others if he or she is better in conduct.  This is the theory which convinced the noted historian, Professor A.J. Toynbee, in 1948 to say that: "The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue."



HADITH PROBLEM NO.3

The Quran and Hadith are very, very different, NOT similar

Jammat-ul-Muslimeen's madness of comparing the Divine & Perfect Quran with the imperfect Hadith


Now, here is yet another malicious manipulation by Jammat-ul-Muslimeen, only to uphold some ridiculous Ahadith.  They have presented an analogy to defend those Hadiths which mention of the sun prostrating before Allah's throne.  They have quoted Verse 22:18 but have failed to quote any of those Ahadith which they are comparing with this verse and thus trying to justify those Ahadith.  But we will cover this aspect in detail, InshAllah, and expose what Jammat-ul-Muslimeen is trying to hide of the Ahadith.

First let me quote the English translation of the beautiful Verse 22:18 from Corpus Quran.

"Do not you see that (to) Allah prostrates to Him whoever (is) in the heavens and whoever (is) in the earth, and the sun and the moon and the stars and the mountains, and the trees and the moving creatures and many of the people?"  (22:18)  Surah Al-Hajj.

Indeed everything on earth and the heavens glorify Allah alone Who is the Creator of everything, and every object in the earth and all celestial bodies in the heavens recognize this fact as they are functioning at the Command of Allah.   It's this aspect that's so wonderfully described in the above Verse.  

Now let's see what the Hadith says about the sun prostrating, in an utterly failed attempt to explain Verse 36:28 which Jammat-ul-Muslimeen tried to hide out of embarrassment.

According to the Hadith, where does the sun go at sunset?
 
Bukhari and Muslim – revered by “scholars” as “Muththafaqun Alaihi” MISINTERPRET Verse 36:38 of Surah Yassin of the Noble Quran and attribute this howler to our beloved Prophet (SAAW).

Sahih Bukhari Volume No. 4 Hadith Number 421 - Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet asked me at sunset, “Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?” I replied, “Allah and His Apostle know better.” He said, “It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: “And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing.” 36:38.


This Hadith (like many others) is not just an error, fault or a mistake.  It's a blunder, a shame and a howler - a part of the a real foul-up by Hadith writers and narrators.    We do not know how they will answer to Allah for these insults against the Prophet on the Day of Judgment.

Now, here is the correct explanation.  When Allah says in V.36:38 "And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him." -- it's a very different expression.  It's got nothing to do with the nonsense mentioned in Abu Dhar's narration.  Verse 36:28 refers to the stipulated term of the sun, like all other heavenly bodies.  As we know, everything in the earth and the heavens has been created by Allah for a specific term or a fixed period of time, and will then cease to exist .. that is, everything will exist only till the Last Day or the Day of Resurrection.  Thus, when Allah says that the sun runs unto a resting place, it refers to the sun doing its course and coming nearer to its end with the passing of each day.   It's Allah Who has fixed the terms for everything in the earth and the heavens and nothing can survive a minute beyond that term fixed by Allah.  The sun, the moon, the planets, the stars, the earthly trees,  mountains, rivers, seas, animals etc. all have fixed terms of survival like humans, and all those creations of Allah are aware of their Creator, they obey HIM and they praise & glorify him.  That's the reference when Allah says that the sun and moon are obedient to Him and prostrate before Him.  All praise be to Allah.  

Poor Bukhari and the narrators.  How they have misinterpreted the beauty of the Great Quran by such a wide margin !!

As you must have observed in its website, the Jamaat-ul-Muslimeen has cited several Quranic verses and has then claimed to the affect that if Allah can mention the unseen then why not Hadith?  May Allah grant some guidance to the arrogant ones of Jammat-ul-Muslimeen whose conscience and sense of decency have departed from them to the extent that they find nothing wrong in elevating the most discrepant Hadith and putting it at par with the Perfect Quran.



HADITH PROBLEM NO.4  

Many Ahadith are senseless, defying the Noble Quran and defying all common sense

'Sun and the moon will go to hell like rolled up bulls' ????
Can Jammat-ul-Muslimeen explain what this nonsensical Hadith means?


A hadith written by another astonishing liar named Bayhaqi writes yet another garbage which I quote:

“The sun and moon will be two rolled-up bulls in Hell on the Day of Resurrection.”  

The sun and the moon and all heavenly bodies will surely be destroyed on the Day of Judgment as Allah has confirmed.  But it's only the disobedient & disbelieving humans and jinn who will go to hell.  Where does the Quran say that the sun and moon will also go to Hell and that too like "rolled up bulls?"   Bayhaqi should be ashamed of himself for writing such imaginary ideas and attributing them to our beloved Prophet.   Furthermore, as we know, Ahadith has been borrowed from the altered Jewish & Christian Bibles.  It's necessary to state that Bayhaqi has borrowed the idea of the above Hadith directly from the altered Bible, Isaiah24, quoted below:

"Then the moon will be abashed and the sun ashamed,
For the LORD of hosts will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,"


Bayhaqi obviously never read the Noble Quran but he had plenty of time to read the altered Bibles which he 'imported' into Islam.

Another laughable Hadith claiming the sun goes inside Allah's throne and will then rise from the West.  My word of honor, just read this and you will be hysterical !!

Narrated Abu Dhar: The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west.  Bukhari - Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:
 
Can Jammat-ul-Muslimeen please inform me from which fairy tale Bukhari picked up this hogwash?   The incompatibility of this Hadith with the Quran couldn't be more glaring!    The Quran explains the orbiting of the sun and the various stages of the moon so beautifully and authentically, which has been proven correct scientifically.   Please know, the narrations quoted above are NOT the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (S).  The Prophet (S) was a very sensible and intelligent person.  He NEVER said such stuff.  The narrations above are from lying and deceitful men who came much after his lifetime and who wanted to change Islam, like the Jews and Christians changed their faith.  Hadith was their modus operandi by using the Prophet's name to give leverage to their distortions.

Now please read this.  I'm wondering, is this a Hadith or a silly bratty joke?  Earth being carried on a bull's head being the cause for earthquakes!

"The earth is carried on a giant bull; when it shakes its head, then an earthquake occurs." (Ibn Katheer 2/29; 50/1).  

Ibn Katheer must have been on dope when he wrote this bunkum !!!!   Hadith fans label such nonsense as "science of Hadith."  Is this the sort of "science" that Hadith teaches ??



HADITH PROBLEM NO.5

The Hadith thumpers brag that Hadith teaches salat when in reality it does NOT!

According to Hadith advocates, Hadith teaches salat.  Completely false.  Hadith has taught nothing about salat.  If anything at all, Hadith has only helped to change the origins of salat with its interpolations.  The method of Monotheistic (Tawheed) salat was already established from the time of Prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael (peace be on them).   To check this topic carefully, kindly read our detailed post titled Reasons why the Quran doesn't mention the detailed method of salat?



HADITH PROBLEM NO.6

The false claim of Hadith that passing wind breaks wudu (or ablution) has resulted in great inconvenience in the lives of many people, especially the elderly

Crazy traditionalists seriously argue that if it wasn't for Hadith, how would they know that passing wind invalidates wudu?  Let me mention, this question is being put upside down by them.  The question is NOT "how we would know passing wind invalidates wudu if it wasn't for Hadith?"   Rather, the question is, "if the Noble Quran does not say that passing wind breaks the wudu, then why does the Hadith say it?"  The Hadith is NOT entitled to make its own rules independently without the endorsement of the Quran.  Moreover, Allah does NOT forget anything.  It's not that Bukhari will remember and Allah will forget.   Since the Quran does not mention that flatus invalidates wudu, it has specific reasons.  For complete information on this subject, read our article Does 'wudu' really become ineffective if one passes wind?



QUESTIONING THE QURAN TO DEFEND THE HADITH

It's not uncommon to find stupid and stubborn so-called Muslims with their minds rigidly conditioned with traditionalism who have gotten deviated from the path of Allah sinking so low that they raise questions and doubts about Allah's Final Message only as a backlash to defend the man-written and deeply flawed Hadith.  Allah has confirmed in the Quran (Verse 5:3) that His Final Message is "perfected" and "completed," yet the imams and their disciples make the Quran dependent on the Hadith by claiming that the Quran cannot be understood without the Hadith.  This is not just a violation, but it's a very nasty and rude violation.  It's BLASPHEMY.

The deviation of the so-called Muslims at present is identical to the deviation of the idolaters of Makkah.  Allah says in the Quran about them that if you tell them to believe in Allah alone, the will frown, show annoyance and disobedience.  But if you associate partners with Allah, then they will happily and willingly show obedience.   The scenario is similar with "Muslims" today.  If you tell them to follow the Quran alone, they will yell and scream and reject it.  But if you associate the man-written Hadith with the Quran, then they will agree to accept the Quran.  They forget that the Quran is a Divine Standalone Book that cannot be associated with any man-written works.

CONCLUSION

There are lots more to say and expose on the deviations of Hadith.  Those senseless and transgressive Ahadith that I've quoted here are only the tip of the iceberg.  There are many more appalling ones.   But I'm sure I have already made my point clear.  If anyone still cannot understand it, that person is either a genuine friend of Satan or a thorough dummy.

The very blatant and offensive violations of the entire Hadith literature are spread over a much wider sphere than pointed out by Jammat-ul-Muslimeen as one of their cover-up strategies.

What Jammal-ul-Muslimeen is conveniently forgetting is that miracles are at the beck & call of Allah Almighty.  Performing miracles are very simple for Allah.  Allah has confirmed in the Noble Quran that when HE wants something to happen, HE only needs to say "Be and it is."  Similarly, if Allah wants to bestow any super natural powers to anyone of HIS slaves or to inspire them, it is a very easy matter for Him.   Do Bukhari and his successors also claim to have such powers ????

The way Jammat-ul-Muslimeen has argued to defend Hadith, it has become clear that the love for Hadith is much more in their hearts than the love for Allah and His Final Message.  It has also become obvious that as a dedicated advocate of the Hadith, the Jammat-ul-Muslimeen is jealous of the perfection of the Noble Quran and jealous of the infinite Power of Allah.   Allah Almighty states in the Noble Quran  about such people that they love earthly matters with the same depth and loyalty which is the right of Allah only.  

"Yet of mankind are some who take unto themselves (objects of worship which they set as) rivals to Allah, loving them with a love like (that which is the due) of Allah (only) - those who believe are stauncher in their love for Allah - Oh, that those who do evil had but known, (on the day) when they behold the doom, that power belongeth wholly to Allah, and that Allah is severe in punishment!"  (2:165) Al-Baqrah.

So true!

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 02:57:15 am »



Hahh!  ~sigh~  has the Jammat lost its mind?  what are they talking?  And do they think the readers cannot catch their crafty conspiracy?  They are comparing the Quran with the Hadith but are quoting only the Quranic verses because they are themselves ashamed & embarrassed of the Hadiths they love.   They will say "what's wrong if Hadith mentions of the sun prostrating before Allah because the Quran also says that."   But they purposely don't quote those Ahadith so that the readers do not get to read the ridiculous meanings of those Hadith narrations.

You exposed the hidden matters superbly sister Heba.  Very well and comprehensively written inclusive of all essential points. 



The false claim of Hadith that passing wind breaks wudu (or ablution) has resulted in great inconvenience in the lives of many people, especially the elderly

 For complete information on this subject, read our article Does 'wudu' really become ineffective if one passes wind?


Yes ,, this is one of those many totally irrational rules made by the Hadith .. harsh and crazy.  It's the limit when one thinks that Hadith doesn't even let people fart.  It is particularly cruel for elders.

This write-up needs a double thumbs up.  All praise be to Allah, The Almighty !!


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An excellent exposure of the tricks by Jammat-ul-"unMuslimeen."   They thought they could defend the Hadith by hiding it.  They are themselves aware of the gross improprieties of Hadith, how disgraceful most narrations are and how much they clash with the contents of the Glorious Quran.  That's why, although they are supposed to be defending Hadith, yet they couldn't gather the guts to quote any out of shame & embarrassment.

They are never able to respond when confronted with such rejoinders.  And if they do, they're always wide out of context.  The usual Hadithist stategy while responding is to first change the subject and start by praising Bukhari's phoney biography and then hurling insults on the critics. 

If ever anyone of them want to reply to this write-up, they must do so by quoting our contents, otherwise we are not interested in off topic criticism.
 
  
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Bayhaqi obviously never read the Noble Quran but he had plenty of time to read the altered Bibles which he 'imported' into Islam.

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Ibn Katheer must have been on dope when he wrote this bunkum !!!!   Hadith fans label such nonsense as "science of Hadith."  Is this the sort of "science" that Hadith teaches ??

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Great job on breaking all this information down sista Heba.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 11:57:42 pm »

And revealing falsehood.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2012, 12:10:19 am »



Hats off to you, sister Heba!   Cheesy  You caught the Jammat guys by the scruff of their necks.   They pulled up this crafty trick of defending hadiths without quoting them.  They knew if they had quoted those hadiths, they would be sunk.  But you successfully exposed what they frantically tried to hide.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 05:49:41 pm »





The false claim of Hadith that passing wind breaks wudu (or ablution) has resulted in great inconvenience in the lives of many people, especially the elderly 

Yes ,, this is one of those many totally irrational rules made by the Hadith .. harsh and crazy.  It's the limit when one thinks that Hadith doesn't even let people fart.  It is particularly cruel for elders.

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Well, you know, my late beloved grandfather, may Allah Almighty grant him peace and Jannat, had a lot of gastric problems.  Because of a heart condition, he was told by the doctor to take less of red meat and more of veggies & lentils.   That resulted in more gas in the stomach.  Additionally he also had a slip disc problem.  Such patients should always release gas otherwise it may cause pressure on the damaged disc.  So, there would be many times when soon after performing full wudu, he would need to pass wind.  It would be impossible for him to contain it till he finished his prayers.  At such times he would pass wind and then simply perform a quick taimum by lightly touching the walls with the palms of his hands and then running his palms over his face & neck.  It just wasn't practical to perform his entire wudu again as that would be too much extra work in his frail condition.  Yet he would have performed his entire wudu if it was really necessary.  But it wasn't because passing wind never makes the body physically dirty.

In my opinion, after a proper wudu if one accidentally passes wind, there is no need even for taimum because gas doesn't invalidate the wudu at all.  But my grandpa would perform a simple taimum at such times only to put his mind at ease because of the hadith teachings he had been hearing since a child.

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