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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2012, 09:45:32 am »

May Allah Almighty bless you for your fair and truthful perception brother Ozcan.  What are the views of the majority in Turkey?   Are they happy with their PM's pro-West war-mongering campaign against their next-door neighbor?  At Facebook I knew two Turkish brothers.  Both seemed to be rigidly pro-Erdogan and just wouldn't hear any criticism of him.  [/size][/font]

You have truthful and fair perception yourself (and others here as well) Smiley I don't live in Turkey and no longer watch Turkish news because it's no different than BBC or CNN. I think there are many Turks who know very well this is an imperialist game, but there are also many people who support the government, they are completely divided. I'm afraid the majority supports Erdogan, but I'm not sure how big that majority is....
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2012, 09:51:48 am »

But Iran is an intelligent country and it doesn't trust this treacherous snake trying to crawl up its sleeves. 

Very true. Iran, like Turkey, has a strong sense of statehood and rich history. In Turkey even Iran haters respect Iran. They know very well that Iran doesn't take **** from anyone. Excuse the language. They consider Iran as their "equal" and most powerful Muslim country after/along with Turkey.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2012, 09:01:37 pm »

What I really admire about Iran is their accurate approach toward nationalism.  Nationalism as per Quranic principles should not be bound to geographical boundaries, rather it's more abstract & extensive and needs to be based on Faith.  This concept has been almost completely lost within the pan-Islamic state for centuries.  The founder of the Iranian revolution, late Ayatollah Khomeini, was one of the few who upheld it.  Thus we see Iran helping many sunni countries in distress but it's seldom vice-versa.  They never call their revolution "an Iranian revolution," it's always addressed as the Islamic Revolution. 

In this regard I'd like to share a very inspiring and uniquely selfless quote by the leader of the Iranian revolution where he said: "We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah, for patriotism is another name for paganism.  I say let this land (Iran) burn.  I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world."  (Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini).  May Almighty Allah reward this man for his loyalty and steadfastness. 

You might like reading our post Nationalism vs. Faith.
The 5th post in the thread contains the detailed article.
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2012, 12:36:35 am »

In Syria, things are particularly gettin dangerous for the television hosts and presenters.  They need to be very careful. Muhammed al-Saeed who was kidnapped last month has been killed by Al-Qaeda terrorists.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2012, 12:49:25 am »

Apart from playing its cards incorrectly in regard to the Syrian episode, Turkey is  in a strange predicament concerning the Kurds as well.  Turkey is at loggerheads with the Kurds but the Kurds (including the Syrian Kurds) control most of the oil in the region.  It's also being talked around that Turkey is quite pleased to see Iraq in shambles after the occupation.  It fears a strong and stable Iraq for that would mean the Turkish government having to pay more for the purchase of oil.  A real quagmire of sticky shit!  How money and power destroy morals and serenity.
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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2012, 03:38:47 pm »

Apart from playing its cards incorrectly in regard to the Syrian episode, Turkey is  in a strange predicament concerning the Kurds as well.  Turkey is at loggerheads with the Kurds but the Kurds (including the Syrian Kurds) control most of the oil in the region.  It's also being talked around that Turkey is quite pleased to see Iraq in shambles after the occupation.  It fears a strong and stable Iraq for that would mean the Turkish government having to pay more for the purchase of oil.  A real quagmire of sticky shit!  How money and power destroy morals and serenity.


Unfortunately this is quite true.   Recently Press TV interviewed Dr. Randy Short who gave a very honest account of Turkish policies in the region, highlighting much of what you've stated.  Interview of Dr. Short.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2012, 03:40:18 pm »

In Syria, things are particularly gettin dangerous for the television hosts and presenters.  They need to be very careful. Muhammed al-Saeed who was kidnapped last month has been killed by Al-Qaeda terrorists.

Gosh!  I'm shocked !!
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2012, 05:13:09 pm »

Whenever some irrelevant freak defects and joins the Al-Qaeda invaders of Syria, the media celebrates with the utmost of hype.  Presently it's celebrating the defection of a Syrian opportunist called Riyad Hijab who was appointed prime minister of Syria a couple of years ago.  Prime minister's post in Syria is that of a figurehead.  He never had much power nor any influential or political clout.  Power is mainly rooted in the Syrian Army and the security apparatus of the government that stand firmly to defend Syria from the foreign aggression of Al-Qaeda, its Arab/Turk financiers, Israel and USA.  

For practically purposes, Hijab's defection is quite insignificant.  But it will surely provide greater fuel for running the international propaganda machine.  Hijab never belonged to the close circles of the Syrian government.  He was one of the Sunnis with a reclusive attitude.  Thus, it took him little time to fall on the lap of his country's enemies.  Hijab was helped by the Al-Qaeda allies of the "free Syrian army" to defect.  And the joke of millennium - Hijab calls himself a "soldier of this blessed revolution."  Yet, he isn't fighting.  He simply escaped to Jordan (a member of that diabolical den called "friends of Syria") where he is relaxing in luxury.  

What's happening in Syria is NO revolution, just as what happened in Libya was NO revolution.  Do I even need to say that?   A revolt that blossoms into a revolution stays meaningful only as long as it's one hundred per cent homegrown.  The moment foreigners get involved, it loses its ideology and its goal of 'freedom' and 'independence' becomes a deception.  

What's happening in Syria now is identical to what was attempted in Iran in June 2009 instigated by the West.  I'm sure we all remember that failed drama.  The only difference was that in the case of Iran the imperialists used 1% of those Iranian dissidents within the country (with the help of George Soros), while in Syria the same imperialist powers are using the fierce terrorists of Al-Qaeda to assist a fraction of the Syrian defectors and wreck havoc throughout the country.   It's so darn simple to sense the similarity.

Let's learn some more history to understand the foreign revolt against Syria better.  

What's happening in Syria today is a repetition of Iranian history in 1953.   The purpose of the events in Iran in 1953 was financial protection of UK and the US involving Iranian oil.  The Syrian episode today is mainly for the protection of the illegal state of Israel but also involves imperialist interest in the energy resources of Syrian Kurdistan.

Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq was the democratically elected leader of Iran and the choice of the Iranian people.  In August of 1953, he was toppled by a coup known as the Mordad coup orchestrated within Iran by the intelligence agencies of Britain and the United States.  This imperialist-led coup ushered the authoritarian rule of the Western agent, Reza Shah Pahlavi, and Iran's transition from the peoples' government to a tyrannical monarch supported and protected by the United States.  

So, what was the reason for ousting Mosaddeq, a leader chosen and liked by majority of his people?   Please read carefully and remember.  In the 1920s and 1930s Iranian oil was strictly controlled by the Brits via a British owned Anglo-Iranian oil company (AIOC).  The Iranian people, majority of whom have always been very independent minded and have downright rejected imperialist thefts, gradually began resenting this arrangement involving the AIOC.  By the 1940s the peoples' dissatisfaction over the AIOC became widespread which was seen for what it really was - a exploitative body and a lucrative investment of British imperialism.  In 1951, Mossadeq passed a bill in the Iranian Parliament to nationalize Iran's oil industry, thus, booting out AIOC.   This bill was supported by the Iranian Parliament almost unanimously.  It was an unpleasant jolt for the imperialist powers.  It spelled the clear message for them to "go back home, no more robbing of Iran's wealth."   But Western democratic norms function only as long as they serve its interest.   Nationalizaton of Iranian oil industry was a heavy kick deep inside the rear of the imperialists.  Not being able to rob Iran any longer meant huge financial losses to them.  Ignoring Mossadeq's popular support in Iran, the British flatly refused any cordial negotiations on this issue.  They wanted nothing less than the return of imperialist rule in Iran.  A leader popular among the masses didn't suit the imperialist national interest.  Subsequently, imperialist vandalism began being unleashed against Iran.  Britain started by initiating a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically .. similar to the harsh sanctions we see today against Iran/Syria/Hezbollah.  Then it started using Iranian agents to destabilize Mossadeq's government .. much the same as George Soros' mischief using the services of those few thousands of Iranian dissidents and supporters of the former Shah now residing in the US to destabilize post-revolution Iran.  While all this went on, Britain was constantly working on the possibility of mobilizing its army and sending it inside Iran to seize the Abadan oil refinery.  And finally when Churchill became Prime Minister of Britain and Eisenhower led the US, they instigated and financed a coup with the help of a small number of Iranian dissidents and toppled the very popular government of Iran. Mossadeq was overthrown.  That's how Iran's first peoples' government was destroyed by foreign invaders until 1979, when our brave Iranian brothers and sisters rose up again and threw out the imperialists and their autocratic representative.  Even a pro-West source as the online encyclopedia writes on the 1953 coup of Iran: "Classified documents show British intelligence officials played a pivotal role in initiating and planning the coup, and that Washington and London shared an interest in maintaining control over Iranian oil."  It also names the commanders of this coup viz.  "Dwight Eisenhower and Winston Churchill."  And imperialist lackeys, "Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and Fazollah Zahedi."

More than 1,000 Iranians were killed in this coup.

Today, post-revolution Iran has vowed it won't let the international robbers steal her wealth ever again.  InshAllah, Iran will always be independent and sovereign, trading as fair business partners with the rest of the world, NEVER as their slaves.  

And now think of the events in Syria.  We would have to be dumb sickos if we still cannot catch the truth.    
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2012, 08:52:41 pm »

Thank you sister Zeynab.

I've done some reading and saw the results of some polls; it seems that the majority of people in Turkey oppose the Turkish war and terrorism against Syria. Unfortunately, this won't changing anything. We need action, the aggressors and imperialists only understand the language of power. It's so painful and frustrating to feel so powerless, isn't it?
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2012, 01:02:00 am »

Well done brother Ozcan.  That was an useful research.   You're right.  It's our helplessness that makes us feel so miserable in the face of such gross injustice. 

I very much believe majority of the Turkish people must definitely be against the war and terrorism against Syria.  This obviously means their government has lost its mandate regarding its foreign policies.  Erdogan often accuses Assad of losing the trust of the Syrian people.  I suppose he should first see where he stands with the Turkish people instead of casting stones from a glasshouse.

Here is an interesting piece that appeared today on wsws.org
 
Turkey attacks Kurds, threatens military action against Syria
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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2012, 01:43:32 am »

It seems to me from all accounts that the al-qaeda rats are getting a beating in Aleppo.  I pray to Allah Almighty that I'm right.
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2012, 01:47:23 am »

At this point it seems the same to me  .. and the mainstream media isn't bragging too much either.  But this is a dangerous phase, not because of the al-qaeda rebels, but this is the time when NATO can suddenly decide to jump in.  I'm sure it's already watching the scenario like a hawk.
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2012, 01:50:53 am »

Correct ,, chances of countrywide mass genocidal airstrikes by the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization is looming large in the atmosphere  Sad
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2012, 01:54:27 am »

.... North Atlantic Terrorist Organization .. 

 Thumbsup Thumbsup Thumbsup Thumbsup   That's the title for those AQ allies.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2012, 08:08:06 am »

Syria has a good army and functional government but lack of resources. Sanctions imposed by western thugs aren't helping either. I hope Iran and others are taking care of that...
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