Message #13220

[N. Truth Seeker]

What a great thread filled with a wealth of truth-seeking information.  Subhan'Allah, may Allah continue to guide us all.

In my opinion Hebrews were a community of Egypt.  They may have been unprivileged or poor just as certain communities in many countries are known to be unprivileged and poor.  That led to the rulers of that land to turn them into low caste slaves.  We can only presume up to this point and leave the rest to Allah.

Allah also says in the Quran that He knows with whom to place His Message.  Thus, it's very possible that Allah chose Prophet Moses (who belonged to the Hebrews brought up at Pharaoh's house) as His messenger to the people of Egypt and specifically to lead the Hebrews out of slavery.  This was a favor to the Hebrews to make them realize the evil of tyranny, never to practice it on others and to thanks Allah for His mercy on them.  But as the Quran states and as we have seen for ourselves, the Jews (now called Zionists) never learned any lessons from their past sufferings nor did they ever thank Allah for His favors to them. 

Many of those biblical stories are quite recent, constructed and re-constructed, edited and re-edited within the last one hundred years to suit various political developments in Europe and North America.  Through these stories they try to persuade the world that the Jews were always special people and never slaves. They also try to mislead the world into thinking that Egypt was not the indigenous homeland of Hebrews and that the Hebrews had connections with Palestine since much before the time of Prophet Moses.  That's why they have altered all authentic history, even deny the Exodus and claim that Hebrews lived in Canaan before becoming slaves and that the famine in Canaan drove them to Egypt and that's how they ended up in Egypt.   Neither the Quran nor any reliable historical source in the middle ages support this information.  The only confirmed information we have is that Prophet Yusuf ended up in Egypt and lived there for several years and later his parents and family also went to meet him there.  After that, what might have been their future decisions is known to Allah alone as rightly described by sisters Zeynab and Heba.  And as they correctly suggested, there is no reason to presume that they settled there forever with their future generations being divided into tribal clans.  Nor is there any reason to presume that they went to settle in Hebron nor are there any other specifics available about this issue.

Moeover, I think to myself, the Noble Quran gives every relevant information and its connections very clearly.  Prophet Ibrahim is a very important messenger and personality in the Noble Quran.  At the same time, the Quran narrates the history of bani Israel quite frequently as well.  If Prophet Ibrahim's family had any links with the Hebrews, the Quran would have stated it.  Instead the Quran categorically states in Verse quoted by sister Heba that "Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian;"  Now think of it this way:  The Hebrew tribe had 2 major clans - Israel and Judah.  The term "Jew" comes from the clan-name "Judah."   Allah clearly states that Abraham was neither a Jew nor Christian.  Therefore, if Abraham's close descendents had any links with the clan of Judah, why would Allah state that Abraham was not a Jews?  But the words of Allah are the final ones.  Only HE knows the complete truth of every matter.  When He has made it crystal clear that Abraham had no connections with Jews nor Christians, hence Muslims must stop following the biblical stories by creating a link between Jacob's family and the Hebrews of Egypt.