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SubhanAllah , MashAllah dynamic piece Allhumdullailh .Jazak Allah kahir  Thumbsup Thumbsup


word by word  agree with u sisters ! excectly This is a favorite question amongs Muslims who follow Only men written texts,With this question, such people try to justify the necessity and proliferation of contradictory sectarian teachings,all falsely attributed to Allah and His prophet.Muhammad (pbuh) .The basic problem of these folks  is a Wrong concept !! they are confuse they don't even  know  where did Prophet get the salat from ? what is the history of salat  ..Hadith have created the culture and majority of ummah believe these contradictions that Prophet get salat especially on miraj Al-isra and Al-Mi'raj,and number of salat were reduced etc etc  but This is total wrong concept.Salat as per Noble Quran which is detailed and free from all contradictions Allhumdullailh ! Allah is The protector of this book , these Hadithists can't compete with divine book. Quran contain very basic necessary history of salat u have rightly mentioned  Salat was given to Prophet Ibrahim .prophet Muhammad (pbuh)was the messenger of Allah .He did not bring the new religion .Prophet Muhammad was the follower of the Religion of prophet Ibrahim (pbuh) !!   
 @ sis i am adding verses .


prophet MUHAMMAD - A FOLLOWER OF ABRAHAM !!
 

Lo! Abraham was a nation obedient to Allah, by nature upright, and he was not of the idolatersn 16:120

 
And afterward We inspired thee (Muhammad, saying): Follow the religion of Abraham, as one by nature upright. He was not of the idolaters.16:123
 


Say: Lo! As for me, my Lord hath guided me unto a straight path, a right religion, the community of Abraham, the upright, who was no idolater.6:161


Say: Allah speaketh truth. So follow the religion of Abraham, the upright. He was not of the idolaters.3:95


Q:   who taught salat to previous messengers  ?? Hadith ????


Allah is sufficient as Guide and Protector and no men-made hadith can over-ride Quran .These folks missing out the point Quranic verse tells us All messengers bring the message of tawheed. every messengers offered salat. Salat were known in the past to Ibrahim ismail ,Isaac, Jacob , Zakariya ,Musa, Isa,,Maryam ..

 

وَإِذْ جَعَلْنَا الْبَيْتَ مَثَابَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَمْنًا وَاتَّخِذُوا مِن مَّقَامِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ مُصَلًّى وَعَهِدْنَا إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ أَن طَهِّرَا بَيْتِيَ لِلطَّائِفِينَ وَالْعَاكِفِينَ وَالرُّكَّعِ السُّجُودِ
 
 
 And when We made the House (at Makka) a resort for mankind and sanctuary, (saying): Take as your place of worship the place where Abraham stood (to pray). And We imposed a duty upon Abraham and Ishmael, (saying): Purify My house for those who go around and those who meditate therein and those who bow down and prostrate themselves (in worship).2:125


وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُ إِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ نَافِلَةً وَكُلًّا جَعَلْنَا صَالِحِينَ .
And We bestowed upon him Isaac, and Jacob as a grandson. Each of them We made righteous.21:72


وَجَعَلْنَاهُمْ أَئِمَّةً يَهْدُونَ بِأَمْرِنَا وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْهِمْ فِعْلَ الْخَيْرَاتِ وَإِقَامَ الصَّلَاةِ وَإِيتَاءَ الزَّكَاةِ وَكَانُوا لَنَا عَابِدِينَ
 
And We made them chiefs who guide by Our command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds and the right establishment of worship and the giving of alms, and they were worshippers of Us (alone).21:73


 وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ مُوسَىٰ وَأَخِيهِ أَن تَبَوَّآ لِقَوْمِكُمَا بِمِصْرَ بُيُوتًا وَاجْعَلُوا بُيُوتَكُمْ قِبْلَةً وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
 
And We inspired Moses and his brother, (saying): Appoint houses for your people in Egypt and make your houses oratories, and establish worship. And give good news to the believers.10:87
 
Prophet Moses (pbuh) was also commanded by Allah for the establishment of Salat in congregation.


وَجَعَلَنِي مُبَارَكًا أَيْنَ مَا كُنتُ وَأَوْصَانِي بِالصَّلَاةِ وَالزَّكَاةِ مَا دُمْتُ حَيًّا
 
Prophet isa said And He has made me blessed )


And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive,19:31.


فَنَادَتْهُ الْمَلَائِكَةُ وَهُوَ قَائِمٌ يُصَلِّي فِي الْمِحْرَابِ أَنَّ اللَّهَ يُبَشِّرُكَ بِيَحْيَىٰ مُصَدِّقًا بِكَلِمَةٍ مِّنَ اللَّهِ وَسَيِّدًا وَحَصُورًا وَنَبِيًّا مِّنَ الصَّالِحِينَ
 
he (Zakariya) was standing in prayer)
 
And the angels called to him as he stood praying in the sanctuary: Allah giveth thee glad tidings of (a son whose name is) John, (who cometh) to confirm a word from Allah lordly, chaste, a prophet of the righteous 3:39


Q: Can any one tell me what was ,and what is still the purpose of congregation prayers ???


وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَارْكَعُوا مَعَ الرَّاكِعِينَ
 
Establish worship, pay the poor-due, and bow your heads with those who bow (in worship).2:43

(Talking to the children of Israel Follow the practices ...and bow your heads with those who bow (in worship).

 

وَارْكَعُوا مَعَ الرَّاكِعِينَ 2:43   


and bow your heads with those who bow (in worship).2:43
 

In a dialogue with the Children of Israel, one notes the instruction in the Quran for them to ''bow with those that bow' 2:43


This act of congregational obedience finds historic roots.It is very clear from Quranic perspective, that the order of congregational prayer was from Allah and well established amongst monotheistic's of earlier revelations before the advent of Prophet Muhammad and prophet Muhammad has followed the same pattern he established the congregational prayer to pass on the salat method  In this regard the requirement of congregational worship was in general that it would have become entrenched into practice and this system sequence is still goes on

Q:  How come the prectice of salat came through genereation to genetration  ?

And enjoin upon thy people worship, and be constant therein.We ask not of thee a provision: We provided for thee. And the sequel is for righteousness 20:132  

I wish they once read Quran, understand the divine wisdom! Why was revealed of the order congregation prayers ?? more people can offer salat together,Old and young at the same time can learn to learn perform salat and can be able to pass on the method  '' generation to generation as righteous followers  ,pious people , companions ,caliphs did. ''focus on establishing salat and also order ur family ,command ur household,and community to establish salat generation to generation.'' And enjoin prayer upon your family [and people] and be steadfast therein 20:132, Learning the salat from practice is still the same parents do not give written method to learn salat .children's learn from their parents in fact 3 year old child begins to learn the salat method by following of his mother.


Now my question is to ulma's  and whoever deny the demostration prectice of salat came through genereation to genetration !!
 
Q:where from the Traweeh come ???
 

Traweeh nither mention in Quran nor mention by Name in any hadith .so u called some authentic hadiths .No where.

mostly ulmas and hadithists reply u back !!
since we know that the caliphs /campanions of prophet (pbuh)performed traweeh, it is ample evidence for it being sunnah. so it means Traweeh is a practices followed by the caliphs . The precedent set by the Prophet (pbuh and his Household ) and was continued by his Companions and subequent generations after him. In every generation, !!

Q:The people from the household of prophet (pbuh) and rightly guided caliphs and their household did not performed salat ??? if traweeh was continued by prophet's Companions and subequent generations after him.then why don't u hadithist folk accept the truth where from salat come ? why giving credit to hadith ???  Angry
hadith books does not contain illustration for salat or video clips showing how the prophets observed their salat .Quran Verse 16:123 is a direct proof that all religious practices in Islam were intact when prophet Muhammad was born. Thus, he was enjoined to "follow the religion of Abraham."smilarly  If I ask u to ride a bicycle , it is assumed that u know what a bicycle is and u know or learn from others how to ride it or he /she or i  will demonstrate to u. if mother  want to teach her daughter how to knead the dough then mother must demonstrate for her .Demonstration is basic rule of pratice  ! even now these days when the corrupted hadiths are available parents does not give hadith book to 7 or 8 year old child to learn how to offer salat .. child learn from the pratice of his parents ,father take his child to the mosque to show how to pray in manners .Ignorant of the fact that prophet Ibrahim observed the contact prayers  many contemporary muslims challenge Allah by asking where we can find the number of units in each contact prayer. Ignorant of the fact that Allah claimed Quran to be complete , they do not see that ALL religious practices of Submission/Monotheism were established and practiced before the Quranic revelation. Allah  Himself taught every messangers  and prophets ordered to establish the system of Salat in congregation , and method pass on by the wisdom of Allah via congregation prayers .Prophet Muhammad was died Not the entire ummah  died .MEN WRTTEN Hadith can not take any credit on teaching salat .hadithists, scholars subsequently fabricated stories in an attempt to erase any similarities between themselves and the mushriks.


The Ironic question about absence of rakat unit


Q: what is salat ??? The purpose of prayer/salat is to be close to Allah OR counting rakat .?

.Salat is complete surrender to the power of our Creator, head Bowing in reverence to the Lord ,it is more important than the number of rakat.The purpose of prayer is to be close to Allah, not the counting of rakah units ..And Our Creator knows us before He created us !!

salat is not obliged only for ,imam of mosque ,ulma's , mufiti ,job less men ,retired old men or Women sitting at home. Be realistic and ask urself !! and answer me ??

 In this machine era Even in muslim country how many man's offer complete  salat in office ?? how many girls and boys offer salat in school ,college ,university ?? how many womens offer salat in working hours (on job) ?? yes some are really punctual and guardian in their salat .so they just offer fard/obliged and leave the rest rakat  units  ?? Now think about it ?

If Allah had mention or fixed  a number of rakat unit in Quran could we reduce ?? then it could be an obliged  ? could we change ? could we make any excuse? we can only assume that if anyone offer fard only it's enough or better then leaving salat because of the counting of rakat unit . ....our intention reaches to Allah not the counting of rakat unit ....Prayer is an extremely personal connection with Allah which can penetrate the depths of one's current state of mind and emotions. . I feel is far more meaningful then a robotic ritual prayer in a vernacular that is incomprehensible. Reasons why salat may not be achieving much for the many Muslims of today may be because it has become ritualized, heaped with sectarianism and has lost much of the purpose that was once intended.The number of prayers is not as important as is the commitment behind the prayer when a prayer is enacted Although a number of prayers have been enjoined on believers and at particular parts of the day u imams ,ulmas corrupt  sunnah as well . Angry Angry

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