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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2013, 06:40:05 pm »

  Alhamdulillah I got it  ,I wish I could convince other typical mindsets Muslims brother's and sister's too Sad   . Oh Really ?  in asia this matter is worse asian's slaughter chicken at home that's horrible i mean how ? it is very sad i agree humans do treat animals very badly yes u are right again many western governments simply refuse it and don't want to spend on medication for large number of animal slaughtering every day .

U know Animals rights organizations do condemn animal slaughtering method especially on eid ul adha  also european government do offer muslims to give minor medication before slaughtering ( sacrificing animals ) and ask muslims to not to show this method to their children but imams and mufti's  refuse this offer and don't  allow anyone to accept these..What u say  ?
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2013, 08:11:23 pm »

Oh Really ?  in asia this matter is worse asian's slaughter chicken at home that's horrible i mean how ?

In many countries from Afghanistan across India to the far-east they don't have the facility of selling frozen chicken in stores.  So they have to go to the poultry shops, buy live chicken and bring them home for slaughter.  Not just Muslims, but also many non-Muslim countries like India, Thailand, Vitenam, China, Taiwan etc. follow this method of slaughtering at home.  Non-Muslims' treatment of animals is much worse.  


U know Animals rights organizations do condemn animal slaughtering method especially on eid ul adha  also european government do offer muslims to give minor medication before slaughtering ( sacrificing animals ) and ask muslims to not to show this method to their children but imams and mufti's  refuse this offer and don't  allow anyone to accept these..What u say  ?

Well, you know sister, what one needs to keep in mind is that a lot of politics is also involved in this issue to discriminate against Muslims.  It's very true that many Muslims don't follow the correct Halal procedures which includes the concept of kindness, but there are even more non-Muslims who completely disregard all humane values towards animals.  I admit that we cannot guarantee if all Muslims slaughter animals in a kind & considerate method during Eid-al-Adha at which Western human rights activists are quick to jump and criticize.  But these activists should also look at what's happening in their own Western countries, how badly they treat animals being sent to the slaughterhouses.  Not just that .. in Northern Canada they eat seal meat.  Seal hunt is very common there in certain seasons of the year and the seal meat industry makes lots of money.  But do you know how they kill the poor seals?  They attack the seals relaxing on the sands and hack them to death by beating them with wooden or iron rods.  Even if they think it's necessary for them to eat seal meat, there are dozens of method to kill them in a painless and humane way.  For example, they can just shoot.  Or give them a strong sedative so they go to sleep and then slaughter them.  But they don't  because they claim that the old custom of the native red Indians was to beat the seals to death and at present they want to continue that traditional method.  Some activists have raised their voices against it, but not enough.  This is a much more serious issue than the slaughter of animals in Eid-al-Adha, yet the activists talk more about Eid-al-Adha.  

I never knew that European governments offer Muslim organizations medicine to give to animals prior to slaughter. Right now the European governments are so broke that they cannot even afford to give jobs to their people.  So if this story is true, it's either an old one or it's to incite discrimination from the political view point.   Secondly, if they are offering medicines to Muslim organizations, then those organizations should accept it and use it on their animals.  If they don't trust the medicines given by the European governments, then they can buy some suitable sedatives on their own .. something they consider more suitable content-wise.  

As far as slaughtering before children is concerned, I personally think it's not a good idea. Slaughtering an animal is not a play thing, it's a task that involves devotion to Allah from which arises the vital responsibility of kindness & care.  Small children are not capable to understanding it.  They understand it gradually as their parents and elders teach them the Quran, its principles and values in a proper way.  By the time these children are 18 plus years old, they realize the reason & importance of mentioning the name of Allah and the use of extreme kindness to animals.  However, it's the parents' responsibility to teach them these factors the proper way by keeping in mind the direct dictates and the overall values of the Noble Quran.    
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2013, 02:36:14 am »

Hmmm okay many thanks for ur time  dear sister heba Smiley
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