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« on: April 01, 2013, 12:18:23 am »

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There are some uneducated and troublesome non-Muslims with complete lack of  logical thoughts and sinful polytheistic ideas taken from the altered man-made religions they follow.  They are bent upon picking up a fight to slander the Quran and tease the believers who are loyal to the Quran.  I lately observed that one of the points they try to argue upon uselessly, wasting their time and the time of others, is claiming that "Islam is not Monotheistic" by bringing up the term "We" used in the Quran.

The response to all such ignorant and malicious creatures is as follows:

The expression "WE" in the Noble Quran refers to the Supreme Power to Allah.  It is an expression of the Royal Decree, NOT plurality.  For that reason the term "We" is always followed by the singular part of speech in all such verses.  For example, "We were Witness to their judgment" (21:78).  "We are the All-Knower." (21:81) and many more similar verses.

When Allah Almighty addresses Himself as "We" in the Noble Quran, it must be known that this expression is only a symbol of royal decree, a part of the eloquent language that is befitting while referring to the Supreme Majesty of the Almighty, the One and Only.  It is NOT a reference to plurality.

The expression "We" is a feature of literary style in Arabic as in various other languages  including English.  The style of using the term "we" is often observed in the speeches and announcements of monarchs issuing decrees such as "we have ordered" or "we have decided" or "we have suspended" etc.   In English this protocol is known as the the "royal we."  The speaker is one, and "we" is symbolic of the speaker's high status and respect.

Whenever Allah  uses the expression "We," it refers strictly to Himself only, the All-Powerful  the All-Knower.   It is a symbol of the highest status and greatest of respect which only Allah is entitled to and NONE else.    The term "We" in the Quran is a gesture of Allah's unlimited glorification.  IT DOES NOT INDICATE PLURALITY.   

Those non-Muslims who try to argue and quarrel by claiming that the term "We" defines plurality are ignorant of the most important ideology of the Noble Quran, that is, the ideology of strict MONOTHEISM (Tawheed), and they are also ignorant of the rules of Arabic and English grammar.  There are any number of verses in the Quran, from start to finish, that assert loud and clear that Allah is ONE, and NONE has the right to be worshiped except Him.  No reader of the Quran with the slightest of common sense and vision can overlook this most vital commandment and principle of the Quran.  Surah 112, At-Tawheed (meaning 'Unity' or Monotheism), which is known as the essence of the Quran, emphasizes entirely on the Oneness of Allah.

"Say He is Allah the One and Only
Allah the Eternally besought of all
He begetteth not nor was begotten
And there is none comparable unto HIM."
(At-Tawheed, 112:1-4)  [Also known as Surah Al-Ikhlas].


Thus, the subject on the unity of Allah is crystal clear throughout the Quran and there is absolutely NO room for any doubts, confusion or ambiguity.  Any arguments on this subject would be only for the purpose of mischief, and such mischief-mongers must be ignored.  Allah will Himself deal with them on the Day of Judgment.
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2013, 12:38:42 am »

Very nice post sister Heba.  I've also observed some trouble-makers raising this point. Once I came across an argument on this topic at that notorious anti-Islam site called "answering-Islam" run by Sam Shamoun & co.  Many of them know that it's only a rule of grammar to indicate the Highest status of Allah.  Yet they fight because of their own inferiority complex.  As Allah says in the Quran about the disbelievers that many of them wish that they were believers.  But Allah does not guide them because of their own wrong doing and pride.  Subsequently their lack of guidance becomes their cause for jealousy against Monotheistic (or Tawheed following) believers.  Let them burn in their jealousy.  The burning in Hellfire will be still worse. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2013, 01:37:51 pm »

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SubhanAllah beautiful pieces  sis heba   !  also very important one and one deserving of deep thought this is a requirement of the Quran, that one should read each verse and ponder over its meanings, and only then we will be able to see the deep-rooted of these verses whom Allah Himself has called '' We'' such fool folks don't  understand the simple clear  message of Tawheed , One God. That is the primary message of the Noble Quran and the same message was brought by every Prophet of Allah who ever came to this earth, starting from Adam (pbuh) upto the Last prophet Muhammad (pbuh).Quran mentioned many many times in different places and in different contexts ... There is only One God, and He Alone deserves to be worshipped. Everything else in creation are created by Him alone! They are all dependent on Him and there is nothing, absolutely nothing like Him at all..Islam is a strictly monotheistic religion. . It believes that Allah is one, and unique in His attributes. In the Quran Allah often refers to Himself using the word 'We'. But this does Not mean that Islam believes in the existence of more than one God. U are absolutly right This is most important thing is to note from God being ONE, alone in His Majesty and His ‘Authority’  this is a strong indication that despite it being God’s command alone, He being alone in His authority..


He is Allah, than Whom there is no other Allah, the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One, Peace, the Keeper of Faith, the Guardian, the Majestic, the Compeller, the Superb. Glorified be Allah from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him). 59:23
 
Allah is talking from a Majestic and Authorative position in  21 Surah Anbiyaa Verse 30-33

 

Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then WE parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe? 21:30

 

.And WE have placed in the earth firm hills lest it quake with them, and WE have placed therein ravines as roads that haply they may find their way.21:31


And WE have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.21:32

 

And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.21:33


Allah is talking from a ,Majestic Ruler,Majestic Nature ,Royalty  .. I agree with ur view Alhamdulillah ,correct This is a common phenomena even in this world. The kings and rulers of this world normally use the word WE, when they issue a decree or a general order. Now we must realize, that Allah, He is the Creator of all these kings and emperors, He is the King of kings!! He is sole Master of the whole Universe!! He alone is the Creator, Owner, and Sustainer of the heavens and the earth and everything in between. Thus whenever he speaks from a position of Majesty, the words WE are used in His communique.



Here i would like to quote ! Ibn Taymiyah who create a confusion in muslims also he slip out from his track on very major point in Allah's excellence by adding angels, helps  and  troops . which cannot be considered a minor mistake .Allah does not need any help ...


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Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) wrote in Majmaoo’ al-Fataawaa (5/128) some words which may be of interest to us here:

“With regard to Allaah’s closeness to us, sometimes it is mentioned in the singular, as in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): ‘And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad) concerning Me, then (answer them) I am indeed near (to them by My knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me…’ [al-Baqarah 2:186] and the hadeeth: ‘The One on Whom you call is closer to any one of you than the neck of his riding-camel’, and sometimes in the plural, as in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): ‘… And We are nearer to Him than his jugular vein’ [Qaaf 50:16]. This is like the aayaat (interpretation of the meanings): ‘We recite to you…’ [al-Qasas 28:3] and ‘We relate unto you…’ [Yoosuf 12:3]. Such usage in Arabic refers to the one who is great and has helpers who obey him; when his helpers do something by his command, he says ‘We did it,’ as a king might say, ‘We conquered this land and we defeated this army,’ and so on.”


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“Say: He is Allaah, the One” [al-Ikhlaas 112:1]

and other aayaat which can only be interpreted in one way. Thus confusion will be dispelled for the one who is seeking the truth. Every time Allaah uses the plural to refe to Himself, it is based on the respect and honour that He deserves, and on the great number of His names and attributes, and on the great number of His troops and angels.

(Al-’Aqeedah al-Tadmuriyyah by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, p. 109).

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Q: I don't  understand why ibn Taymiymah mention Allah's troop and angels ??

 
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 01:09:21 am »

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’ [Yoosuf 12:3]. Such usage in Arabic refers to the one who is great and has helpers who obey him; when his helpers do something by his command, he says ‘We did it,’ as a king might say, ‘We conquered this land and we defeated this army,’ and so on.”


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“Say: He is Allaah, the One” [al-Ikhlaas 112:1]

and other aayaat which can only be interpreted in one way. Thus confusion will be dispelled for the one who is seeking the truth. Every time Allaah uses the plural to refe to Himself, it is based on the respect and honour that He deserves, and on the great number of His names and attributes, and on the great number of His troops and angels.

(Al-’Aqeedah al-Tadmuriyyah by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, p. 109).

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Q: I don't  understand why ibn Taymiymah mention Allah's troop and angels ??

 

Walaikum Salam.  You're absolutely right sister Muslima.  I also don't agree with this view at all.  No wonder it comes from Ibn Taymiyyah.  He just couldn't say anything right 

Allah has NO helpers.  The angels are His slaves and His creation who follow His orders as a part of the system which Allah has ordained to display His greatness.  If Allah wants He can destroy all angels in a second just as He can destroy the entire universe in a second.  Even if Allah destroys all the angels, it will make no difference to Him.  His orders will continue being carried out by His command alone.  When Allah decides to pass an order or wants something to happen, He only needs to say "Be" and it is.

Ibn Taymiyyah hardly understood Allah, that's why his explanations were so out of place and incorrect. 

Thanks for bringing up this point, sister.
 
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 01:30:10 am »

Excellent point, great read and very educational thread.  JazekAllah khair, sisters.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 12:15:08 am »

Yes, that's a very correct point you brought up sister Muslima.  Both of you have very rightly rejected Ibn Taymiyyah's unacceptable opinion, and your explanations are completely compatible with Quranic principles.  The term "We" in the Quran means only Allah.  It has nothing to do with the inclusion of angels.  All of these medieval imams had very misguided ideas.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 02:39:30 am »

jazakAllah my dear sis  heba for ur  beautiful reply Alhamdulillah ,Thanks sister. Zeynab, and bro . Smiley

This  literature so called  islamic literature is full of errors ,plus mad imams . complete mess ..


 
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Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.9:111

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