Guestbook opened for now. We aren't registering members at the moment. Guests wanting to post brief queries may post in our guestbook. No lengthy debates please. Kindly note: MV is a place for serious learning through mutual consultation where we have zero tolerance for trouble-makers, narcissists and needless disputants. We simply stand for what is compatible with the Noble Quran regardless of titles such as "traditionalism" or "modernism."
Muslim Villa
April 16, 2021, 03:58:07 pm
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
  Home Help Search Arcade Gallery Links Staff List Calendar Login Register  

Science and Religion are intertwined


+-
Shoutbox
July 07, 2020, 11:23:26 am N. Truth Seeker: InshAllah, vaccine will come but might take a bit of time.
July 07, 2020, 11:22:43 am Heba E. Husseyn: Exactly ... !
July 07, 2020, 11:22:10 am Zeynab: World stuck in a pandemic desperately needs a vaccine.
July 07, 2020, 11:21:18 am N. Truth Seeker: lol true.
July 07, 2020, 11:20:59 am N. Truth Seeker: Very soon it will be neck deep.
July 07, 2020, 11:20:23 am Heba E. Husseyn: Dr. Fauci in US says country is knee-deep in pandemic.
May 30, 2019, 06:15:49 am Zeynab: Alhudulilah, yes sister Ruhi.  Time flies in this fleeting world.  May Allah The Almighty accept our hard work in the permanent world.  That's the real success.
May 30, 2019, 03:43:58 am Ruhi_Rose: Jumaa-tul-widaa (farewell to Ramadan) tomorrow Friday 31.  How time flies!  Ya Allah, keep us close to Your mercy.
View Shout History
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Send this topic  |  Print  
Author Topic: Science and Religion are intertwined  (Read 138 times)
Ruhi_Rose
TEAM MUSLIM VILLA The Avid Reader | Mom of 3 cute rascals
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3406



WWW
Badges: (View All)
« on: July 13, 2013, 09:07:55 pm »

 


BismEm


Finding reasons for occurrences does not mean those occurrences become 'science' and thus one should move away from Faith.  Nothing can be more incorrect, outright stupid and boastful than that.  Allah has created the entire universe on the basis of various laws & rules (which people often refer to as 'laws or rules of nature').  For example, look at Verse 67:19:  "Have they not seen the birds above them spreading out their wings and closing them ? Naught upholdeth them save the Beneficent. Lo! He is Seer of all things."   Allah mentions about the flight of birds and that only Allah upholds them.  The reference here is for us to reflect upon the details of His laws on the basis of which He enables birds to fly.  Modern study to determine how birds fly will be called "science."  But actually this is a system and process ordained by Him.  So, how can anyone in their right mind think science and Religion are separate fields or that science refutes Religion?  Science is an integral part of Religion.  And by "Religion" it means the Monotheistic Religion or Tawheed.

Also let us be clear about the difference between the creation/invention of knowledge and the discovery of knowledge.  While humans can only discover, The Almighty invents and creates the laws.   

Reminding ourselves of the first Words from Allah Almighty that descended on the beloved Prophet (pbuh). were the first 5 Verses of the 96th Surah (Al-Alaq).   Allah says in those 5 Verses.

BismAllah Ar Rehman Ar Raheem

Read: In the name of your Rab Who created,
Created man from a clot.
Read: And your Rab is the Most Bounteous,
Who teaches by the pen,
Teaches man that which he knew not."

Surah Al-Alaq (96:1-5)


All praise be to HIM alone.    First of all, please know, the term "man" refers to entire humanity, all humankind, not just to the male gender.   Most importantly, The Almighty refers to education, research and discoveries in the very first Revelation He sent to this world via Angel Jibraeel who brought it to the Final Messenger.  The term "pen" stands for knowledge.  Every bit of knowledge in all spheres of life acquired by humans are facts and information already designed and created by Allah Almighty long before their discovery by the people.  In other words, whatever awareness we acquire in the field of learning through our reflection, cognition, hardwork and experiments, are works planned and ordained by The Almighty much prior to their discovery by humankind.   Every bit of knowledge is an indication of the Works of Allah.  Therefor every shred and every slice of knowledge we extract through our study and research is praise to Allah.   Unfortunately, humans are only interested in grabbing the credit for themselves, mixing up creation of knowledge with the discovery of knowledge.  Knowledge (that initiates with the "pen") is planned, created and perfected by Allah, be it physics, chemistry, maths, geometry and all the various formulas of scientific works etc. etc.   If Allah wants humans to acquire that knowledge which He invented, created and designed, then humans discover it through study and research.  Otherwise they cannot discover it.  Thus, there remains many facts and phenomena (comprising of knowledge) inside and outside this world which humans still don't know and may never know, unless He grants permission.  Only HE knows the complete expanse of knowledge because He designed, prepared and created every portion of all facts and figures.

Knowledge and discoveries are meant to compliment Allah Almighty, and NOT to be viewed by humans as their own creation to challenge Allah, as much of humanity pathetically tends to do. 


MV poster @ Pinterest



Related posts:
Glorious Quran is about reason, not blind faith
Investigation before belief
Importance of knowledge in the Quran 
Scientists on the Glorious Quran


Report Spam   Logged

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter

Heba E. Husseyn
TEAM MUSLIM VILLA Villa Artisan
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3821



WWW
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 01:03:09 am »



Awesome brief piece!  Just super .. I couldn't have said it any better myself.
 
Allah reward you for your truthfulness.  Ameen ya Allah.
Report Spam   Logged

N. Truth Seeker
Quiet guy technology nerd | TEAM MUSLIM VILLA
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2442



WWW
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 10:08:35 am »



Wonderfully perceptive piece.   I conveyed this information and read this post in our fortnightly virtual discussions last Friday, Alhumdulilah.   It was quite awakening for everyone who found themselves focused on a point they hadn't thought too carefully earlier.
Report Spam   Logged

Zeynab
TEAM MV Founder
Admin
Hero Member
*
Posts: 4790



WWW
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 10:34:51 am »




Yes, it's a lovely piece, Alhumdulilah.  I had read it a few months earlier, somehow forgot to comment.  Perceiving the difference between invention|creation and discovery is such a vital fact.  While Allah creates not just the humans, all living beings and everything in the universe, He is the One Who also designs the laws and formulas on the basis of which everything inside and outside the world works.  Humans can only discover what HE already created.   Since humans have limitations, hence only to discover, they have to work hard and struggle, and when they discover something they assume they are the creators and inventers. 

Science is an outstanding creation of Allah.  Science compliments Allah right through and through.  The problem is with humans who are blinded by their pride sprouting from their own incapacities. 

Thus, as one of the most well-known scientists, Albert Einstein, said:  Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.   Einstein's words are meant to show the connection of science with Religion .. because Religion is directly about Allah The Almighty and science & its rules are the creation of Allah The Almighty.   Westerners often refer to this quote as "iconoclastic,"  characterized as Einstein's deviation from "cherished beliefs."   Indeed this is true but not in the manner those Westerners presume.   Einstein was trying to correct the altered Christian beliefs that have notoriously been anti-science.  The altered Christian faith has never been able to understand the creations of The Almighty as widely as His creations do exist.  It's the same with the Jews.  Both altered (man-written) Old and New Testaments are thus full of unscientific contents (similar to man-written Hadith).  This has been going on for centuries, resulting in pitting science against Religion among the Christians and all other faiths except ISLAM.  The Noble Quran is the only original Divine Book that still exists and totally in conformity with scientific laws which are created by the Divine Power.  This is precisely what Einstein's quote alludes to.  Science - as a creation of Allah Almighty - is very much within the sphere of the works and miracles of The ALMIGHTY.   Alhumdulilah, a million times!




Report Spam   Logged

N. Truth Seeker
Quiet guy technology nerd | TEAM MUSLIM VILLA
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2442



WWW
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 10:54:08 am »



Many thanks for adding and explicating and  contextualizing Einstein's quote, Sister Zeynab.  Insh'Allah, I'll mention this point too in our next virtual session.
Report Spam   Logged

Heba E. Husseyn
TEAM MUSLIM VILLA Villa Artisan
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3821



WWW
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2021, 10:57:29 am »




   ............
Thus, as one of the most well-known scientists, Albert Einstein, said:  Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.  Einstein's words are meant to show the connection of science with Religion .. because Religion is directly about Allah The Almighty and science & its rules are the creation of Allah The Almighty.   Westerners often refer to this quote as "iconoclastic,"  characterized as Einstein's deviation from "cherished beliefs."   Indeed this is true but not in the manner those Westerners presume.   Einstein was trying to correct the altered Christian beliefs that have notoriously been anti-science.  The altered Christian faith has never been able to understand the creations of The Almighty as widely as His creations do exist.  It's the same with the Jews.  Both altered (man-written) Old and New Testaments are thus full of unscientific contents (similar to man-written Hadith).  This has been going on for centuries, resulting in pitting science against Religion among the Christians and all other faiths except ISLAM.  The Noble Quran is the only original Divine Book that still exists and totally in conformity with scientific laws which are created by the Divine Power.  This is precisely what Einstein's quote alludes to.  Science - as a creation of Allah Almighty - is very much within the sphere of the works and miracles of The ALMIGHTY.   Alhumdulilah, a million times!


A very correct quote, and you've analyzed it very sensibly, Subhan'Allah.    I can think of nothing more to add.

Report Spam   Logged


Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Send this topic  |  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Scammers & spammers will be reported | If you borrow MV contents you must mention our link with hypertext | MV Team is not responsible for comments by members or guests.
Bookmark this site! | Upgrade This Forum
SMF For Free - Create your own Forum


Powered by SMF | SMF © 2016, Simple Machines
Privacy Policy