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« on: July 31, 2013, 02:04:05 pm »

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Sahih Bukhari, Vol. No. 3, in the Book of Fasting, Chapter No. 25, it says
"Ibn Abbas he narrated that tasting food from the pots or meals it does not break the fast."

 
 
Imam Bukhari Allows women to tasting food while fasting to please her husband i have heard that before but have got to know again while ago and also found hadith, Is there any excuse for tasting anything/food during fast ? which type of myth is that to please husband ? a woman whose husband is peevish and bad-tempered can check the taste of  food , fasting woman is allowed to taste the food that she cooks for her husband ? As long as she don't swallow it's fine, just rinse her mouth after eating to ensure thare is  no food particles or flavors are left. That's  weird logic I mean just in order to avoid the anger of her husband who may be very difficult to please when it comes to food,If a woman puts a small piece of her cooking in her mouth  to feel its taste with her tongue before bringing it out,isn't  tasting the food spoiling her fast  ? and if  some of it goes down into her stomach then ? for a cook may be it's okay not sure ? but for a wife everyday doing the same because of the fear of her husband ? i think if man is true believer he don't want her wife to take any chance to spoil her fast by tasting food for him , tasting food is tempting urself unnecessarily ...
 
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 08:46:04 pm »

Walaikum As-salam.  Ya Allah!   Sister ..... my opinion is that Bukhari and Ibn Abbas were both stark raving MAD !!  Not that I didn't know before  Grin  These two idiots who are trying to change the rules of fasting as elucidated in the Noble Quran. 

Honestly, I never knew of this rude hadith.  Thanks for putting it up Sister Muslima. 

Whether it's a wife or a cook, if they are fasting then no way can they intentionally taste the food for any reason at all.   I don't know what they mean by tasting and not swallowing.  It's impossible to taste food, no matter how small in quantity, without ingesting a few particles otherwise one cannot get the taste.  If you just put a small amount of food on your tongue, then spit it out immediately and rinse your mouth, you will hardly get any taste.  The taste of it can only be felt when you swish it along your tongue for a few seconds at least which definitely results in the consumption of it and that's how one gets to know the taste. 

It can only be forgiven if someone while cooking genuinely forgets that they were fasting and by mistake taste something, then suddenly remember their blunder, quickly rinse their mouth asking forgiveness of Allah and continue their fast.  That would be a different story and in that case it's very possible Allah might forgive them.  But intentionally tasting food in the kitchen to please the husband or father or brother or whoever is certainly NOT allowed.  It would completely break the fast and make it invalid. 

This is yet another crazy hadith, really!

I think it would be better suited in our Hadith board where we have compiled all of Bukhari & Co.'s madness  Cheesy  I'll tip off sis Zeynab to transfer it there.  Thanks again sis.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2013, 12:02:41 am »

I am sorry for put up this thread in wrong section.

Oh seriously , the lady i was in argument said may be it make her fast makrooh but does not invalid the fast  Lips Sealed  I am feeling bad for stupid poor sister who asked this she is blindly workin hard to please her husband and in-laws  Sad
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I am very thankful for ur feedback dear sis heba Smiley  exactly, that's what i thought , cook , wife or the person who is preparing food have no reason to allowed to taste the food but as usual talking to any hadithest  is total waste of time they have wrong installed program in form of sahi collection   Angry
correct ,yeah i too was unable to understand this bullshit ,eating is different from tasting but Sadly Based on this hadith according to ulma's also there is nothing wrong with tasting the food when women 's  are fasting, because they need to do that ! i don't see any need ?  Undecided  scared of hell or husband ?  I mean why women need to keep fear of husband or any men Instead the of fear of Allah ? this act of wife or women presents very ill and weak faith . Is husbands anger ,mood and  food is more important than fast? to hell with husband if he don't understand but wife must not do this ..this sahi collection f* the brain  Angry 
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2013, 12:06:27 am »

..this sahi collection f* the brain  Angry 

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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2013, 02:44:04 am »

LOL, mad hadith!  The clerics tell women not to put lipstick, not even lip balm, during Ramadan because you can get the fragrance & taste of it if you touch it with your tongue.  Yet they support a hadith which says you can taste food while cooking even if you're fasting.  Their lack of logic is shocking.  And yes, that's right .... taste can only be acquired if food is ingested by movement of the tongue.  A few particles of food are bound to go down the throat and one wouldn't be aware of it.  The mistake lies in performing the obnoxious act of tasting food during fasting.  It would surely invalidate the fast.  Christians can do such things according to their method of fasting, but certainly NOT we.  Allah Almighty says in the Quran to observe fast strictly from dawn to nightfall.  Those who think it's okay to taste food while fasting aren't taking it too seriously and aren't being strict about maintaining their fast.  It means they don't care if it gets invalidated.   Hadith really loves to turn believers into deviants. 

Thanks a lot dear Sister Muslima.  I too didn't know of about this silly hadith. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 02:49:20 am »

If those blasted husbands are so fussy about food, then why don't they get off their rumps and come to the kitchen to taste the food themselves so that they can earn their sins by spoiling their own fasts and not drag their poor wives into it?

I'm 100% sure Bukhari was not a Muslim .. and of course, many narrators were pagans, Jews or Christians at heart. 

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 07:21:03 am »

Exactly sis ruhi  but for hadithest wife is servant and all religion is for men then why they will spoil their own fast And it is a shame for women's also those who have no knowledge of their own deen.  Sad

 
yeah good point i also agree with sis zeynab , that's strange our ulema's puts so many restrictions  for women and does not permit women to apply lipstick or even balm if there is chance that it will enter the mouth then fast will makrooh but tasting food for husband is permitted  Angry This sick hadith has put a woman's faith in very low status . I am just wonderingWhat would be the benefits from fasting for those husbands who are ruining their wife's fast for their taste buds ?  they are only ,fearless, selfish ,  arrogant born muslim men of this world NOT momin.

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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 12:40:42 am »

I am just wonderingWhat would be the benefits from fasting for those husbands who are ruining their wife's fast for their taste buds ?  they are only ,fearless, selfish ,  arrogant born muslim men of this world NOT momin.

Very true sis Muslima.  Only a very selfish husband would put his wife in such a situation.  Hadith does not portray husband and wife as loving companions, but as master and slave. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 05:18:03 pm »

exactly ,well said sis zeynab  Thumbsup Thumbsup
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