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« on: December 27, 2013, 04:18:35 am »

 salamem everyone

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Day before yesterday we had very interesting discussion, we were exchanging the views on rewards for believer's ,one of very non serious brother ,A sort of muslim (young born muslim brother newly join ) asked a question i would like to share here.,As we were exchanging our views so he too exchanged his thoughts , he said  ! your seriousness about the rewards and punishments in Akhirah making me laugh,  you all sounds so funny to me ! it seems to him ,we are in game of racing and trying to beat each other But for what he didn't understood ,he said btw what is the guarantee of these rewards or punishment ? is there also any special award or title for winner of this race of deeds expect the concept of jannat /jannah? he laughed !!  Sad It was his extremely unbearable behaviour but i like the question and Allah has already confirmed the existence of such people those who laugh at believers so never mind

The wicked used to laugh at those who believed. When they passed by them, they used to poke fun. When they got together with their people, they used to joke.83:29


We can't help them ,some folks are more than pathetic, Excessive use of their small brain & over reality based ideology has made them equal of munkar but such people must not forget ! U can't see everything through ur limited  intellectual glasses, shake urself ,open ur inner ur eyes then u would be able to see if Allah wills.Surah Al An,am ,Surah al Hadid & Surah al Furqan gives the straight answer and  very bright view of these questions .



 Surah Al An'am 6:29 -32


And they say: There is naught save our life of the world, and we shall not be raised (again).

If thou couldst see when they are set before their Lord! He will say: Is not this real? They will say: Yea, verily, by our Lord! He will say: Taste now the retribution for that ye used to disbelieve.

They indeed are losers who deny their meeting with Allah until, when the Hour cometh on them suddenly, they cry: Alas for us, that we neglected it! They bear upon their backs their burdens. Ah, evil is that which they bear!

Naught is the life of the world save a pastime and a spot. Better far is the abode of the Hereafter for those who keep their duty (to Allah). Have ye then no sense?


Following verses portrayed  the condition of wrong-doers and deniers of truth who, when made to stand by the edges of the Hell, and to observe the horrifying punishment far beyond their imagination @ please brother's and sister's take a moment before u say anything ! Akhirah is not a concept rather it is a utter truth and there is no doubt , please repent,weep humbly for urself and pray to Allah sincerely for ur poor soul !


First of all Quran itself is a guarantee of rewards and punishments accept it or not ,second! yes worldly life is a game surah Al Hadid talks about the reality of this world,also Allah warns us to remember that the life of this world is nothing but a ”deceptive enjoyment .
 

اعْلَمُوا أَنَّمَا الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا لَعِبٌ


(57:20:5)
laʿibun لَعِبٌ(is) Play, sport, game, fun, joke

Know that the life of the world is only play, and idle talk, and pageantry, and boasting among you, and rivalry in respect of wealth and children, the life of the world is matter of illusion 57:20
 
Race one with another for forgiveness from your Lord and a Garden whereof the breadth is as the breadth of the heavens and the earth, which is in store for those who believe in Allah and His messengers. Such is the bounty of Allah, which He bestoweth upon whom He will, and Allah is of Infinite Bounty.57:21

  3rd !  The Title Of وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَٰنِ / Ibad-ur-Rahman Is in  Suran Al Furqan


وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الْأَرْضِ هَوْنًا وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الْجَاهِلُونَ قَالُوا سَلَامًا


WaAAibadu alrrahmani allatheena yamshoona AAala al-ardi hawnan wa-itha khatabahumu aljahiloona qaloo salaman

(25:63:1)

waʿibādu
And (the) slaves


(25:63:2)
l-raḥmāni
(of) the Most Gracious


 
In Surah Al-Furqan Verse 25:63 Allah has awarded the title of 'Ibad-ur-Rahman to special servants of Allah Almighty thoes who surrender completely before Allah and to make all deeds and desires conforming to His pleasure with own choice.In these verses of the Surah the special servants of Allah are described whom He has Himself called as His servants to grant them unique honour.'' 'Ibad-ur-Rahman'' which is indeed the highest honour . In 25:63-73 Verses prominent the characteristics of the true Believers ,those who are the faithful servents of Allah .


IBAD UR RAHMAN ----- (Faithful) slaves Of Allah The Most Gracious ( 25:63 )


The (faithful) slaves of the Beneficent are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the foolish ones address them answer: Peace;25:63

And who spend the night before their Lord, prostrate and standing, 25:64

And who say: Our Lord! Avert from us the doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish 25:65

Lo! it is wretched as abode and station 25:66

And those who, when they spend, are neither prodigal nor grudging; and there is ever a firm station between the two 25:67


And those who cry not unto any other god along with Allah, nor take the life which Allah hath forbidden save in (course of) justice, nor commit adultery - and whoso doeth this shall pay the penalty; 25:68

The doom will be doubled for him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein disdained for ever 25:69

Save him who repenteth and believeth and doth righteous work; as for such, Allah will change their evil deeds to good deeds. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful. 25:70

And whosoever repenteth and doeth good, he verily repenteth toward Allah with true repentance 25:71

And those who will not witness vanity, but when they pass near senseless play, pass by with dignity 25:72

And those who, when they are reminded of the revelations of their Lord, fall not deaf and blind thereat.25:73
 

 Check out in detail how Allah describes the qualites of His devoted servants with the beautiful Arabic Title of Ibad-ur-Rahman .
 


1st Quality is their Humility .

They walk on the earth with dignity, serenity and humility, not with arrogance and prideand If the ignorant people insult them with bad words, they do not respond , but they overlook them( V:64 ) Same quality has mentioned in surah Al-qasas 28:55 And when they hear vanity they withdraw from it and say: Unto us our works and unto you your works. Peace be unto you! We desire not the ignorant. . .

2nd Quality is their Tolerance '‘Ibad ur Rahman’ do not entangle themselves in arguments with idiots.

Ibad ur Rahman are peace-loving not violent and intolerant they do not respond violently nor do they waste their time and energy in futile arguments and debates. Such a disposition of peace is by no means a sign of weakness but rather a dignified way of responding to ignorance and stubbornness .


3rd Quality !
 
The true servants of Allah pass their nights in worshipping and remembering Him as much as they can,they spend part of their nights in (tahajud ) to glorifying Allah and seeking to fortify their inner spiritual strength, in order to protect themselves from the storms of vanity and self-pride.they are constantly in conversation with Allah and are always Prayerful and Hopeful for salvation in the life hereafter,they try their best to only perform good deeds, but they always ask Allah for protection of the punishment of Jahanum
 

4th Quality ! Fear / Khauf-e- Khuda , / Fear Of Allah/Taqwa
 
Fear of Allah is the best thing what a servant of Allah can take as a provision for the goodness of his Deen /way of life.
!Allah Almighty says!
 
And take provisions, but indeed, the best provision is fear (of ALLAH) 2: 197 . No good deed is acceptable except that which is a result of Taqwa.
 
Allah says !But righteousness is (in) one who fears (ALLAH) 2:189
 
. Meaning of Taqwa ! forbearance, abstinence پرہیز
 
Taqwa is a high state of heart, which keeps one conscious of Allah's presence and His knowledge and it motivates him to perform righteous deeds and avoid those which are forbidden ,the essence of Taqwa is to make a shield which guards against Allah's anger and punishment.Taqwa makes one deserving of Allah's Pleasure and Love. Allah says ! most honorable of you in the Sight of Allah is that (believer) who has Taqwa."
Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware. 49:13
 

5th Quality!! Moderation ethical responsibility and accountability ‘Ibad ur Rahman’ spend in moderation and are not miserly
 

Verse 25:68 mentioned 3 important points !
 
And those who invoke not any other God along with Allah, nor kill such person as Allah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse and whoever does this shall receive the punishment. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide there in disgrace.25:68
 

6th Quality , Tawheed 'Oneness Of Allah ,
 
‘Ibad ur Rahman’ do not associate partners (shirk) with Allah, they don't worship any human neither any imam nor earthly idols /wali awliya .
 
112 Surah Ikhlas /سورة الإخلاص itself enough evidence of the Lordship of Allah ,to believe that Allah alone is the Rab ,the Creator, Provider, Sustainer ,To Him belong the keys of the Heavens and the earth, Alone He has Knowledge of everything and He alone is truly Self-Sufficient Master (As Samad)112:2, Tawheed is the belief that Allah is Unique (One, single) and Incomparable.Say, He is Allah, the One and Only. Allah, the Eternal - the Absolute: He begets not, nor is He begotten Allah does not merge in any living or dead creature, nor anything is part of Allah. Neither living nor dead merges in the Being of Allah, nor is any creature part of Him. All creatures are created by His Order and are subservient to His Will.
 
7th ! Ibad ur Rahman’ do not commit Zinna (fornication) and Nor they take life - which Allah has made sacred.
 
And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way.7:32
 

8th ! Repentance (Tawbah) Seeking Forgiveness , is Characteristic of slave of Allah
 
word Tawbah (Repentance) in Arabic literally means 'to return' it refers to the act of leaving what Allah has prohibited and returning to what He has commanded, repentance is a blessing that gives relief to the heart, repenting frequently is a sign of the believer’s humility and awareness of his weakness in the face of Allah it is a behavior that pleases Allah ,in return for this act of worship, Allah gives relief to lifts the burdens on and opens the minds of those who repent often.
 
And ask forgiveness for your sin./faults 47:19
 
Except those who repent and believe and do righteous deeds.25:68
 
Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him 2:222
 
Say: O My slaves who have been prodigal to their own hurt! Despair not of the mercy of Allah, Who forgiveth all sins. Lo! He is the Forgiving, the Merciful. 39:53 .
 
Allah  promises not only to forgive them and wipe out their sins but to exchanges them into good deeds as well !!
 
Save him who repenteth and believeth and doth righteous work; as for such, Allah will change their evil deeds to good deeds.25:70
 
9th ! Ibad ur Rahman’ Are Trustworthy Witnesses.
 
They do not give false testimony and they try their utmost not to speak a lie. Thus they are scrupulous in verifying any information before they utter it . O ye who believe! If an evil-liver bring you tidings, verify it, lest ye smite some folk in ignorance and afterward repent of what ye did.49:6
 

This is the character and quality of faithful slaves, they have a genuine concern of their accountability ,they do not go to any places where falsehood occurs and if by chance, they ever come across what is vain they do not stop, they just walk away,they do not stay anywhere to enjoy the filth of moral impurity
 

10th ! Key Quality of Ibad ur Rahman’ they Are Responsive to Allah's Guidance.The Noble Quran Alone

And those who, when they are reminded of the revelations of their Lord, fall not deaf and blind thereat.25:73
 
(This is) a Scripture that We have revealed unto thee, full of blessing, that they may ponder its revelations, and that men of understanding may reflect.38:29
 
Successful Believers are those who reflect, Allah is not only asking us to recite the Quran rather He is asking us to ponder and contemplate over it because Allah says! Fear Allah / Have taqwa and Allah will give you knowledge 2:282 When we have Taqwa, Allah will open up our hearts and give us light from His Knowledge. whenever we recite the Quran, we should not focus on finishing the surah or finishing the Quran but we should focus on thinking about what we are reciting,we should establish connection with Quran, and the more we read the more opportunity we have to ponder over the words of Allah,it is an enthusiasm based on true knowledge and profound insight ,unfortunately we live in a time where the Quran reciters are many but only few are engaging in studying and seeking the guidance of the Quran Alone and acting upon its ruling. We need to remind ourselves the importance of contemplation, reflection and pondering over the meanings of the Quran, and making sure that it is read in a way that penetrates our hearts and leaves a lasting and permanent impact.
 

They will be awarded the high place forasmuch as they were steadfast, and they will meet therein with welcome and the ward of peace,Abiding there for ever. Happy is it as abode and station! 25:75-76
 
In these closing verses of Surah Furqan, Allah has mentioned and awarded the title of ‘Ibad ur Rahman’ (True Slaves of Allah) to His honourable and favoured servants and promising the`Ibad ur-Rahman' that if they try their best to live up to these virtues and character traits,He will grant them the highest reward in jannah for their steadfastness and they will be greeted in the life hereafter with Salam/ Peace. So If U want to win this title just understand the little thing ! Quran Alone charges the believer with amazing energy which revives the idle souls. The Quran Alone is our guide, our ideology, our remedy, Quran alone is the best source to boost our faith , Quran is our inspiration and our intercessor on the Day of Judgement.Smiley

May Allah guide All of us Ameen
 
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2013, 04:07:36 pm »

Walaikum Salaam.  Mash'Allah sister Muslima, very comprehensively expressed with an extensive focus on Surah Furqan, V25:68.  I have no corrections to make.  I can only prolong the conversation a bit, elucidating further on the process of acquiring guidance and ensuring its stability.

You very rightly stated that Akhirah is not a thought or concept, it is the most significant Truth.  The Quran is not a Book of philosophy, it is the Book of Truth and therefore of the utmost practical importance.  If it's not being put into practice, it's being neglected.  If it's being misinterpreted, that amounts to violating the Quran.

It's hard to explain this to the misguided.  As Allah refers to them as the blind deaf and dumb ....  HE has also made it clear that He guides those who seek His guidance and the laggards are abandoned scrambling blindly in their contumacy, jest and sarcasm.  But all of their fun and jokes are assigned only a certain sum of days after which there will be endless tears and regrets yet too little, too late, and to no avail. 

The very purpose of human life is a test of their faith and conduct.  Proof of Akhirah doesn't come to anyone on a silver platter. "Wait they for naught else than that Allah should come unto them in the shadows of the clouds with the angels ? Then the case would be already judged. All cases go back to Allah (for judgment)." (2:210).  We have to work hard with a modest approach and a contrite heart before the Truth starts to unfold itself.  Unveiling the proof of the existence of Allah and the Final Day of Judgement is a 'one-step-at-a-time' process which involves serious, selfless and impartial  soul searching, reflecting and thinking over the vast contents of the Quran and our lives.  That's when you either pass the test or fail it, depending upon how vivid or blurred the vision is.

The first flash of bright light that illuminates the hearts of those who are fortunate enough to be granted guidance from Allah (and He always guides the deserving and worthy), is the clear and logical concept of Tawheed (Monotheism) and subsequently the immediate acceptance of Surah At-Tawheed, Chapter 112 of the Noble Quran.

Only melodious recitation of the Quran without any focus upon its contents nor the intent of practical implementation is not at all enough in the Sight of Allah.  The fact that the Quran is a Book of Guidance and not a book of music or poems is imperative to understand and accept for achieving stability in guidance.

Taqwa or perseverance is a quality most helpful for a believer for passing their tests.  One of the prime reasons for failure in acquiring guidance is complete lack of perseverance or taqwa.   It's a virtue which is constantly required.  Even after the deserving ones find guidance, trials and tribulations don't cease in earthly world.  Thus, there is no time in life when a believer can do without perseverance.  "Do men imagine that they will be left (at ease) because they say, We believe, and will not be tested with affliction?" (29:2). At such times of tests, we cannot allow ourselves to be without patience and forbearance.  Loss of taqwa can result in a chain of confusion, opening the doors of misguidance.

Indeed Allah is most Forgiving.  But a true believer never takes advantage of Allah's mercy by repeatedly indulging in violations and repenting, taking forgiveness for granted.

In a nutshell, hard work, humility and patience in abundance is a must for a clear vision. One needs to toil for it, and it isn't easy.  Therefore, a sense of realism is just as indispensable.  "Seek help in patience and prayer; and truly it is hard save for the humble-minded," (2:45). Therefore that young kaffir who joined the discussion should be told that as long as he adopts this type of derisive, disparaging and challenging approach, he will keep shifting from one block of darkness to another.  With each shift, the darkness gets more intense.  Gradually with the passing years, the misguidance gets embedded more firmly within the person and more difficult to overcome.  Can anything be more tragic that? 

Quoting you, '‘Ibad ur Rahman’ do not entangle themselves in arguments with idiots."   Absolutely!  Though I often find it difficult to ignore such idiots and end up arguing, we need to know that any discussions or arguments with them is a waste of time.  Allah's guidance never comes anywhere close to haughty or scornful minds. Being on a completely different wave length with a profoundly selfish approach, they will never grasp nor accept the status of the Quran as the Sole Criterion because the Quran forbids the sins they joyfully commit in life.  The thought of Akhirah and the Hereafter rattles them and makes them uncomfortable. Rejection of Akhirah and the Hereafter keeps their conscience stunted, makes them feel relaxed to carry on  their reprobate & wanton  acts without any barriers of a conscientious mind.  It's indeed a very serious and sad situation;  and as I stated earlier .. their fallacious self-assurances on the infallibility of their misguided ideas keep pushing them into greater darkness as a non-stop continuous process.  While few such folks might acquire guidance at some point in life, many more remain permanently in this pitiful condition until the time they reach old age and eventually  die in this miserable a state of kuffari - the ultimate loss !!  It scares me even to think of it.  May Allah protect every humble believer from such an awful fate.

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2013, 07:44:37 pm »

Jazak Allah kahir sis zeynab Ur feedback is very comforting , word by word am completely in agreement with U , U are absolutely right' yeah sis it is tragic ,in fact am bit shocked ,i have never met a person like him before, He believes In God /Allah but he does not accept Quran  Shocked i don't know why he was allowed to join but he has joined the friday sitting also ,he has been warned to kept his sick sense of humour in control otherwise it would be his second and last chance,  although our seniors are quite calm and very patience but he has made them blasted ! he said may be u guys think i am a kafir but i am not even i must say i have better and simple faith than u , i am not stuck with akhirah or jannah  , i believe that God exists but i don't believe in life-hereafter / akhirah ,i have tried to listen Quran translations several time but it never works for me , i do offer salat but not regularly ,i pray whenever i feel to pray , i can't offer salat everyday forcefully, i can't take such bonds of regularity in religion , u folks have not right to declare me kafir because i believe in God  Undecided . that guy is exceptional case ,Allah alone knows what's  in his heart but , i don't get him at all, i seek refuge in Allah  from the accursed of shaitan , i mean how is possible ? we have to accept islam completely ?

o you who believe enter into ‘islam completely 2: 208


if  am not wrong In reality kufr is not alone the rejection of Allah or denying the tawheed rather Doubt is also a kufr ??? there are various kinds of kufr and Quran indicate that faith is not valid and not accepted unless the all conditions are met ? believing in Allah , but not believing in Quran or His Messenger or turning away from any thing is  clear arrogance, rejecting anything that Allah has commanded us to believe in is disobedience whether he/ she rejects it in his heart without uttering it, or he /she speaks those words of rejection without believing it in his heart, both are signs of sin of disobedience to Allah denial and rejection are kufr ,whether it's denial of Quran or denail of   Akhirah ,  Akhirah / Hereafter is essence of faith, fear of accountability in akhirah is moving spirit for correction of deeds and serves as an iron wall before crimes and any sins.

Rejection of Quran  is open signs of dead heart then how could alone salat / namaz benefits ? 

Hast thou observed him who belieth religion? 107:1

"So woe to the worshippers, those who are neglectful of their prayers, those who (want but) to be seen.107: 4-6

It is not you that they deny, but it is the Verses (the Quran ) of Allah that the zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) deny 6:33

except Iblis / Shaitan he refused and was proud and was one of the disbelievers disobedient to Allah 2:34

Only those can accept who hear. As for the dead, Allah will raise them up; then unto Him they will be returned.6:36

That will be a Day when they shall not be able to speak, nor it will be open to them to put forth pleas. 77:35-36



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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 04:26:53 am »

.... he has been warned to kept his sick sense of humour in control otherwise it would be his second and last chance,  ....

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He sounds like a bad sicko.  It's correct that there's just no point arguing with such madmen.  I also know a woman, born in  Muslim family and then she got misguided living in the West in the company of some Indian and Sri Lankan kuffar.  She also says she believes in Allah but not the Quran .. in fact if you mention the Quran, she starts getting hostile and angrily argumentative.  She claims her "conscience" is enough to guide her and she doesn't need the Quran.  The pathetic part of it is that such attitudes among many so-called Muslim youth with low self-esteem and a desire to assimilate with the Western culture is considered a sign of "modernism" and "being intelligent."  They will know about their "intelligence" on the Day of Judgment which they now make light of.  Btw, that woman who says she believes in God but not in the Quran is not young.  She began getting misguided when she was in her late 40s and she's now around 60, still embedded in her kuffari but thinks otherwise.

 It's basically an approach to safeguard their personal desires so that they can keep the title of being "believers" and at the same time carry on with their Haram habits.  Different such shaiateen indulge in different types of Haram conduct ranging from consuming alcohol/intoxicants, eating Haram purposely, zina, social promiscuity, dishonesty with family, dishonesty at work & business, indulging in Haram business, arrogance, defaming innocent people, judgmentalism with double standards, jealousy, not bothering to teach the rules of Tawheed to their children and such people obviously never bother to know the rules of the Quran either.  So you see, this is their secret strategy.  If they accept the Quran, and the Quran makes it very clear that it's not just a religion but a complete & detailed code of life, then they will have to give up on lots of their Haram daily activities which they're too weak to renounce. 

The other category comprises of those who claim they believe in the Quran but it's only a claim.  They actually believe in the Hadith & Shariah and they presume their acceptance of the Quran goes through the Hadith & Shariah, using these as intercessors (in other words, using the authors who wrote them as intercessors), even though Allah has said it loud & clear that the Quran is the Sole Criterion and a believer must reach out to Allah by himself, not through any intercessors.


although our seniors are quite calm and very patience but he has made them blasted 

Seniors, especially the ones living abroad, are terribly under the thumb of such cheeky & brash youth, partly because many of them haven't brought up their kids the right way when they immigrated a generation ago.  So, now when they hear their grown up children talking like wicked retards, they don't have the face to respond.  It's too late.  If a middle aged or elderly couple has children with this type of indoctrination, and they now try to correct their kids, these kids will simply walk out on their parents .... and the parents know that.  Far from guiding their children, I've observed in several cases, that believing parents try to shift their own foundation of Faith orientation to an ideology which is a mix of faith & secularism to find greater acceptance with their children.  Honestly I've observed this many times in Muslim immigrant families.  That's why, as a relative of mine said very correctly, the careful & rational teaching of Faith orientation to minor children by wise parents, especially those living in non-Muslim countries, is very important, indispensable!  Otherwise the only outcome is endless generations of kuffar.


Thanks for the detailed write-up, sisters.  It was a very refreshing read right through the thread.  I'm now encouraging my kids to explore our Quran and Islamic sections of this board as well.  They've already started reading some links I sent them with plenty of interest.  May Allah Almighty be with us.   
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 04:35:03 am »

Ooops!  sorry ...... mistakenly there was a double post of my comment.  Deleted the duplicate.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2013, 09:53:43 am »

You're right sister Ruhi, that's exactly the attitude of most parents with grown up, kafir children.  I also concur with your observation of Muslims today being on two extremes - they either don't accept the Quran at all, or they accept it only through the hadith. 

Sister Muslima, I think the reason why the seniors were calm and  patient was because most of their kids are no different.  They don't say it though because it's nothing to feel proud of.   
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2013, 08:49:37 pm »

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Sister Muslima, I think the reason why the seniors were calm and  patient was because most of their kids are no different.  They don't say it though because it's nothing to feel proud of.   


Sis i meant to say seniors are good listeners ,they have enough patience ,everyone allow to ask anything and they try their max to satisfy but that guy put them on flame.







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Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.9:111
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2013, 09:19:00 pm »

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jazak Allah sis 100% correct this is a sad fact nowadays , we should be worried about it, todays ignorance & lack of interest will be penalty on the day of judgement.I  Agree with both of u sisters , Proper upbringing of kids are basic for their strong faith,please brother and sisters  ! living aboard and talk about freedom and children's rights or sending them alone to mosque on weekends is not enough ,beawar  what they they are learning in mosques, given children their right does not only means to give them what they need or want rather the meaning of Rights ! is teaching them right & wrong, true & false, correct & incorrect, the right / correct guidance towards faith from childhood ,it is also their Right ,this is the most important and lasting gift we can give to our children ! the knowledge of Quran ,best education does not mean givin them degree in aboard rather means given them ability to fight ignorance and drive away evil/ shaitan , such Education is useless if it's turned them away from faith , from Allah, from Quran .

For all parents Allah stated in Quran ,

O ye who believe! Save yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is Men and Stones. 66:6

And those who believe will say Verily, the losers are they who lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection 42:45                              

And those who believe and whose offspring follow them in Faith, to them shall We join their offspring ( in jannah)  and We shall not decrease the reward of their deeds in anything. Every person is a pledge for that which he has earned”. 52:21

@ Please wake up ! Following statement reflects the value of the proper upbringing of children. It has an everlasting effect, even after death.with out the knowledge of Quran everything is worthless  .

Very Glad to hear about Ur kids sis ruhi .  Smiley May Allah ease everything for the presents like U and those who are true blessings for their children's ,May Allah make things easy for all parents, especially Muslim immigrant families , parents with children are currently facing serious issues of horrible misguidance , Are in great loss of  faith .  Sad

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