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« on: January 25, 2014, 09:28:43 pm »

Sahih al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."

     
   
False hadith!  Beware folks, our beloved Prophet (pbuh) never said such stuff.  This is the hallmark of the mischief of Abu Huraira - a liar, a traitor and a thoroughly disgraceful man with no fear or love of Allah and no respect for the Prophet.  I read that Anas bin Malik and Abu Said al-Khudri have also narrated the same Hadith on house fly.  Both these men are just as crude as Abu Huraira, all three of them a bunch of nasty trouble makers with the conspiracy to distort Islam.   Allah Almighty will deal with them on the Day of Judgment, InshAllah. 

Furthermore .. instead of rejecting this hogwash as forged, the Hadith followers are trying illogically to connect it with scientific reasons for acceptance.  They proudly state that a team of the Department of Biological Sciences at Macquarie University (Australia) are working on the theory that flies must have remarkable anti-microbial defenses to survive rotting feces, meat and fruit.  So they identified anti-bacterial properties manifesting at different stages of a fly's development.  Flies go through the stages of larvae and pupae before becoming adults. The larvae stage showed anti-bacterial properties.  They opined that such properties were present on the fly surface though antibacterial properties occur in the fly's gut as well.  Certain "antibiotics are extracted from flies in laboratories by drowning them in ethanol and then then running the mixture through a filter to obtain the crude extract."

The important point which the Hadith followers cannot comprehend:  There is a huge difference between antibiotics being present in the body of flies (which requires complicated and professional medical procedure to be extracted, processed and refined for consumption) and the common understanding of dipping a living fly in your food or drink .. which does NOT provide any antibiotic effect; on the contrary it's fraught with diseases.  The scientific process mentioned by the University team itself states the brief and initial process of extracting antibiotic by immersing the fly in ethanol and then further filtering the ethanol mixture to obtain a crude extract of antibiotic.  Mark the words .. this too is a "crude extract" which needs to be refined by making it go through several other laboratory procedures before it is ready in the form of a finished product or medication containing microscopic doses of the antibiotic suitable for patients.  I ask the Hadith followers who are using the scientific procedure to justify this crude Hadith, that did this team of university researchers say anywhere that as a shortcut you can simply dip a dirty living fly in your glass of water or orange juice or cup of tea or coffee and drink it ????

This is a similar nonsense like which Hadith followers have also come up to justify another disgusting false Hadith which encourages the drinking of camel urine.  The hadith followers say that horse urine contains estrogen (a female hormone) which is used by scientists and medical experts to make estrogen supplements.  Their insinuation is that if horse urine can be useful, then what's wrong with consuming camel urine?  Completely wrong argument.  The making of estrogen supplements or estrogen patches by acquiring estrogen through various means, one of them being the urine of female horses, requires various laboratory procedures before it's refined and ready to be used as an estrogen supplement by the consumers.  It doesn't mean you pour horse urine in a glass or cup and drink it like water or tea.

For the sake of Allah Almighty, I request the Hadithists to harbor a degree of common sense!

To all our readers, please folks, do not embark on such dirty adventures such as dipping a fly in your food or drink.  The Prophet (pbuh) NEVER said this.  This is the naughty brainchild of Abu Huraira & co. which is not a cure for any disease but can only cause diseases such as typhoid, cholera and dysentery.  House flies are recognized as carriers of easily communicable diseases. Flies collect pathogens on their legs and mouths when females lay eggs on decomposing organic matter such as feces, garbage and animal corpses.  House flies carry diseases on their legs and the small hairs that cover their bodies. It takes only a matter of seconds for them to transfer these pathogens to food or touched surfaces.  Other diseases carried by house flies include salmonella, anthrax and tuberculosis.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 08:10:57 am »

Thanks, thanks and thanks for detailing this disgraceful piece of writing by the Bukhari clan!  Cheesy   Earlier I learned about that horse urine story and its comparison with camel urine.  I had also read this hadith on dipping the fly  Grin  several times but I thought the hadithers were trying to hide it out of shame.  Little did I know that they were proudly trying to justify this humbug with thoroughly ignorant arguments, resulting in attributing falsehood to the beloved Prophet (pbuh) plus distorting science.  Someone should ask these hadithers that although penicillin was invented by taking small proportions of fungus and mold from a rotten piece of bread and then having it cultured & processed in medical laboratories, does that mean we should go about eating rotten and toxic food enveloped with fungus and mold?
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2014, 09:14:32 am »

Someone should ask these hadithers that although penicillin was invented by taking small proportions of fungus and mold from a rotten piece of bread and then having it cultured & processed in medical laboratories, does that mean we should go about eating rotten and toxic food enveloped with fungus and mold?

Exactly .. a spectacular analogy that should be put before them.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 02:19:42 pm »

There are many similar hadiths, like drinking camel's urine for example. There are also hadiths about companions of the prophet drinking his urine. And hadiths about the prophet's urine and feces smelling wonderfully.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 09:28:06 pm »

There are many similar hadiths, like drinking camel's urine for example. There are also hadiths about companions of the prophet drinking his urine. And hadiths about the prophet's urine and feces smelling wonderfully.

Yes right.  Both Sunni and Shiia ahadith are running neck and neck on this atrocious idea of drinking / eating of pee and feces.  Take a lot at our post Who are more ridiculous, traditional Sunnis or traditional Shiias?

Seeing you here after a long time brother Ozcan.  Hope you are fine, InshAllah.  As-salaam Alaikum.
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