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« on: March 26, 2014, 01:59:29 am »

As-Salam Alaykum my dear everyone  Smiley

Please tell me something more about Salat-al-Istisqa.  I know that it's a specific salat requesting Allah for rain in times of drought; its method is also different and traditionalists say it can only be offered at the masjid, not at home.  But why?  Can't we also supplicate to Allah for rain after our daily prayers just as we implore Him for fulfilling other requests?  Or, we can offer nafls asking for His mercy to relieve us of drought.  So why give this a separate title with a different procedure and different requirement?  If believers sincerely offer prayer from home asking for rain, would it really be less effective?

Just for my information, I would be grateful if someone highlighted the exact procedure of Salat al-Istisqa, and its origin which might probably be a Hadith. 

 


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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 05:08:59 am »

Wa'Salam sis Smiley  Salat al-Istisqa is a tradition that comes from a Hadith by Tirmidhi.   I'll try to look for it and post it.  But I know it's from Tirmidhi.

I've also been perplexed about it and have several queries.  The procedure is: First the imam and the followers pray two rakats.  In the first rakat the imam recites Surah Al-Aala after Fatiha, and in the second rakat he recites Surah Al-Ghashiya after Fatiha.  Then he delivers a khutba (sermon) which can also be delivered before the two rakats of prayer.  As soon as he finishes his khutba, "the people turn their outer garments around, placing its left side over its right side, and its right side on his left."  This was said by a Hadithist sheikh named Sayyed Sabiq.  He further added, "face the qiblah and supplicate to Allah and raise your hands while doing so."  Well, while praying the two rakats, the people are already facing the qiblah, aren't they?

My questions are:

1) Just as you asked, why aren't we allowed to do this prayer at home?
2) Why can't we recite any other Surahs as well?
3) What is this custom of turning the outer garment around and placing left side over right side etc.?  From where does this strange practice come?  It maybe from the pagan days as Hadith loves to bring back those practices.

In my opinion, if you desperately want it to rain, you can definitely pray for it from home with either two rakats or four rakats or more reciting any Surahs you have memorized after Fatiha.  And your supplication can be in your own words.  The important thing is concentration and sincerity towards Allah only.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 06:32:19 pm »

  Salat al-Istisqa is a tradition that comes from a Hadith by Tirmidhi.   I'll try to look for it and post it.  But I know it's from Tirmidhi.



In my opinion, if you desperately want it to rain, you can definitely pray for it from home with either two rakats or four rakats or more reciting any Surahs you have memorized after Fatiha.  And your supplication can be in your own words.  The important thing is concentration and sincerity towards Allah only.


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I agree with sis heba's opinion , absolutely right ,in fact , This view is itself based on the Quran surah Nuh  71:10-11

And I have said: Seek pardon of your Lord. Lo! He was ever Forgiving.

He will let loose the sky for you in plenteous rain,

seeking rain simple method of supplication /dua  asking forgiveness from Allah ,

'Ask forgiveness To Allah  and turn to Him (in repentance): He will send you the skies pouring abundant rain.'" This is it?


Q: No evidence of this separate title and  method in Quran for offering the prayer for rain / salaat al-istisqa under such ruling , neither in following ahadith's of  Bukhari ,Tirmidhi. Muslim then where from this specific wearied method come ?

 Undecided


Q: My question is why absence of rain is suppose to be the result of the sins of people and is a sign of divine wrath and chastisement ? any historical link with surah Nuh  ? any other surah  ?


@ Sis Heba is right  Tirmidhi hadith  detailed this method

http://www.hadithcollection.com/fiqh-ussunnah/345-Fiqh-us%20Sunnah%20Section%2022.%20Salatul%20Istisqa,%20Prayer%20For%20Rain/20963-fiqh-us-sunnah-volume-002-supererogatory-prayer-fiqh-2036b.html
 

Section : Salatul Istisqa, prayer for rain.

This prayer is taken recourse to when seeking rain from Allah during times of drought. It may be performed in one of the following manners:

1. The imam prays, with the followers, two rak'at during any time except those times in which it is not desirable to pray. In the first rak'ah, the imam recites al-A'la after al-Fatihah. And in the second rak'ah, he reads al-Ghashiyah after al-Fatihah, and he delivers a khutbah before or after the salah. As soon as he finishes the khutbah, the people present should turn their outer garments around, each placing its left side on his right side and its right side on his left, face the qiblah, supplicate Allah and raise their hands while doing so.

Ibn 'Abbas reports: "The Messenger of Allah went out [to make the salatul istisqa'] wearing old clothes, in a humble and lowly manner, and prayed two rak'at as he prayed the 'id, but he did not give a similar khutbah." This is related by the five. At-Tirmizhi, Abu 'Awanah, and Ibn Hibban grade it sahih



http://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/6/13


(43)Chapter: What Has Been Related About Salat Al-Istisqa (The Prayer To Request Rain)

 باب مَا جَاءَ فِي صَلاَةِ الاِسْتِسْقَاءِ

Abbad bin Tamim narrated from his uncle:

"The Messenger of Allah went out with the people to seek rain. So he led them in prayer for two Rak'ah, reciting aloud in them, turning his upper wrap around, raising his hands, requesting rain, and facing the Qiblah."

Grade   : Sahih (Darussalam)   
Reference    : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 556
In-book reference    : Book 6, Hadith 13
English translation    : Vol. 2, Book 1, Hadith 556


Jami` at-Tirmidhi - Book 6, Hadith 15
It is narrated from Hisham bin Ishaq - and he was from Ibn Abdullah bin Kinanah - from his father who said:

"Al-Walid bin Uqbah, the governor of Al-Madinah, sent me to ask Ibn Abbas about how the Messenger of Allah would perform Salat Al-Istisqa. I came to him and he said: 'The Messenger of Allah would go out in modest dress, humbly, imploring, until he reached the Musalla. He would not give this Khutbah of yours, rather, he would continue supplication and imploring saying the Takbir, and pray two Rak'ah, just as he would pray for the Eid.'" (Hasan)

Other references
English translation    Vol. 2, Book 1, Hadith 558
In-book reference    Book 6, Hadith 15
Reference    Jami` at-Tirmidhi 558



كتاب صلاة الاستسقاء‏ 9 The Book of Prayer - Rain


(2)Chapter: The Supplication When Praying For Rain(2) باب الدُّعَاءِ فِي الاِسْتِسْقَاءِ ‏

Anas (b. Malik) reported:
It rained upon us as we were with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) removed his cloth (from a part of his body) till the rain fell on it. We said: Messenger of Allah, why did you do this? He said: It is because it (the rainfall) has just come from the Exalted Lord.

وَحَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، أَخْبَرَنَا جَعْفَرُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، عَنْ ثَابِتٍ الْبُنَانِيِّ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، قَالَ قَالَ أَنَسٌ أَصَابَنَا وَنَحْنُ مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مَطَرٌ قَالَ فَحَسَرَ رَسُولُ

Reference    : Sahih Muslim 898
In-book reference    : Book 9, Hadith 14
USC-MSA web (English) reference    : Book 4, Hadith 1960
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here is 31 hadith found in 'Invoking Allah for Rain (Istisqaa)' of Sahih Bukhari.

http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=17&translator=1
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 02:43:15 am »

Ow!  thank you dear sisters.  It was interesting going through the entire information both of you provided.  Thanks for quoting those hadiths sister Muslima.  O yeah, this practice is definitely straight from the hadith.

So, that bit about turning the garment around is supposed to be like lifting your attire so that rain can touch a part of body ??   This is another strange notion by hadith.  The Quran never says anywhere that as a sign of gratitude we should expose a part of our body to the first shower of the season.  As a sign of gratitude, we can thank Allah during prayers, during recitation of zikrs and during our normal schedule of life.

I too don't know of any historical link.  Verses 71:10-11 is about the people of the community of Prophet Nooh who were disobedient and rejected the Message of Allah sent to them through Prophet Nooh.  In these Verses Prophet Nooh is telling Allah how he tried his best to call his people to Faith mentioning to them the rewards which Allah would give them if they left kufr and started to believe in Allah only.  But they rejected the Message of Allah sent to them through His messenger.

You are right sister Muslima.  Usually lack of rain and drought-like conditions are taken as a punishment from Allah.  But I don't quite agree with this notion.  In some cases maybe it's a punishment, depending on the community.  But certainly not all.  Many cases of drought and famine nowadays in countries like Somalia etc. are actually a result of mismanagement by the government and carelessness of the international community. 
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