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« on: January 13, 2015, 10:30:08 pm »



We know for sure that Maryam, mother of Prophet Essa (pbuh) gave birth to him as a virgin mother.  This was a purely miraculous event because Allah Almighty ordained it as such, and as He states in His Final Message, the birth of Prophet Essa was similar to the birth of the first Prophet, Adam.  Both of them did not have a father.  Adam had neither a father nor a mother while Essa had only a virgin mother.  This  is clear and confirmed.

"Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is."  (3:59) Surah Al-Imran.

Shocking as it may sound, nowadays there are incidents of Christian nuns getting pregnant.  As we know, concepts of morality have fallen much in non-Muslim countries and permissibility is constantly on the rise.  For Christian clerics - bishops, priests, nuns etc. - celibacy is a must and thus they are not allowed to marry.  Considering the liberal values that surround them, they often find it hard to indefinitely continue respecting their covenant and maintaining their chastity after embracing monasticism.  To make matters worse, majority of them don't want to acknowledge the truth when they consummate their relationships.  Stories of philandering male Christian clerics are very common mainly involving sexual abuse of underage children - both boys and girls.  And now, occurrences of Christian nuns indulging in physical intimacy are getting just as recurrent.

It's clear in the Glorious Quran that Virgin Maryam's case was unique as decreed by Allah Almighty.  Her exemplary character made her extraordinary and The Almighty placed her above all other women.  This too has been confirmed in the Quran.

"And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah hath chosen thee and made thee pure, and hath preferred thee above (all) the women of creation."  (3:42)  Surah Al-Imran.

As submitters and followers of the Monotheistic Faith, we must never overlook the fact that Allah is the All-Powerful and when He decrees a thing, He only says "Be" and it is.  Nothing is impossible for Him nor is the happening of any phenomenon difficult for Him to actualize.  Just as important to remember is that according to His standard Laws, He does not bestow His miracles on just any commoner.  He only selects the very special ones.  And He has already informed us that after the Final Messenger, Muhammed (peace and blessings be on him), there will be no other chosen persons entrusted with similar responsibilities.  Only the Noble Quran will be in this world for guidance until the Last Day and whoever reaches out to it will work to benefit their own souls.  Thus, after the seal of Prophethood, there is no question of anyone in the world being vouchsafed with miracles as granted to some Prophets and certain members of their families.  To presume that would be a wild speculation for which we will have to answer to Him on the Day of Judgment.

Coming to the other point - rising incidents of pregnancy among Christian nuns - while some admit breaking their pledge, many more claim they don't know how they conceived.  They speak to the affect that one fine day they suddenly experienced cramps in their stomach, they were sent to the hospital where it was discovered to their surprise that they were pregnant and consequently they gave birth.  They don't specifically say they are virgins, but neither do they acknowledge they aren't virgins any longer, discreetly implying virgin birth as in the case of Virgin Maryam.   Such an attitude is extremely impertinent.  It deepens their transgression, adding dishonesty alongside lewdness. After being aware of their lustful conduct caving in to their carnal desires, trying to cover it up by drawing parallels with the chosen persons of Allah Almighty is NO small violation. These women who become nuns are ordinary females like the rest.  There is absolutely no possibility of any miracles being bestowed on them by the Divine Power.

The most recent incident happened in Italy in January 2014 where a Latin American nun gave birth claiming she never knew she was pregnant until one day when she suddenly felt pain in her stomach and was taken to hospital where she gave birth.  Ridiculous!  As if pregnancy is an inflammation that flares up unexpectedly like appendix.  Pregnancy occurs gradually with dozens of signs and biological changes until one gives birth.  It starts with morning sickness in most women.  Even if some don't experience sickness, the tummy SURELY grows gradually and after the sixth or seventh month looks very huge which definitely cannot go unnoticed neither by the pregnant woman nor by the people around her.  The body gains weight.  The monthly menstruation cycle stops.  Various women experience different additional symptoms.  By the time a woman is ready to give birth after nine long months and goes through labor which can often be prolonged for several hours, she certainly cannot claim she wasn't aware of what was happening to her body since the past so many months.  That's just impossible.

Even in the case of Virgin Maryam, as confirmed in the Noble Quran (Verses 19:16-23), the Virgin birth of her baby didn't come abruptly as a surprise within one or two hours of notice.  The angel sent by The Almighty informed her that she was to have a "faultless son" .. and when Virgin Maryam expressed her surprise how that could happen, the angel mentioned that nothing is impossible for Allah.  She knew long before giving birth that she was pregnant, and she withdrew to a secluded place.  She went through the stress of childbirth and prior to giving birth, the pangs of childbirth were excruciating.  It's what we call, the state of labor.

The virgin birth of Prophet Essa (pbuh) is described very eloquently in Surah 19 (Maryam), Verses 16 to 23, quoted below: 

"And make mention of Mary in the Scripture, when she had withdrawn from her people to a chamber looking East, 19:16.

And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. 19:17.

And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. --  19:18.

He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.  19:19.

She said: How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste ? 19:20.

He said: So (it will be). Thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it will be) that We may make of him a revelation for mankind and a mercy from Us, and it is a thing ordained. 19:21.

And she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place.  19:22.

And the pangs of childbirth drove her unto the trunk of the palm-tree. She said: Oh, would that I had died ere this and had become a thing of naught, forgotten!"  19:23.



Here is the ludicrous and untruthful story of the Italian nun at Yahoo News:"Shocked Italian nun gives birth to baby boy."

Concerning this incident, a local pastor also supported the nun's phoney claims, falsely testifying in favor for her that she didn't know she was pregnant.  Again, if you read the article, it doesn't address her as a virgin after delivering the baby in so many words, but neither does it state that she wasn't a virgin any longer.

More absurdity comes from the attitude of the modern media.  Generally their skepticism promptly derides every miracle of Allah Almighty stated in the Noble Quran.   Almost all modernists (and the current Western media represents them) do not believe in the Virgin birth of Prophet Essa (on whom be peace). Yet the same sources struggle to construct biological or medical reasons for rare virgin births when a female Christian cleric gets pregnant.

The article tries to throw dust into the eyes of the readers by quoting a survey (the authenticity of which is far from confirmed) by the British Medical Journal (BMJ) which said that in America "one in 200 US women claim to have given birth without ever having had sexual intercourse."  Mark the word, BMJ itself uses the term "claim" which implies it is  not sure whether or not these women are speaking the truth.  Also it does not say "virgin" birth.  It says birth without having sexual intercourse which can refer to several different types of artificial insemination.  If one out of every 200 females gave virgin birth without the surrogate process, that would suggest that this isn't a very rare occurrence.  In that case surely almost all of us would have known at least one or two persons in our entire lives who had experienced this phenomenon.  But surely again, none of us know of any common female who has given birth in a state of virginity without artificial methods of fertilization.

Thus, answering the query:  Is virgin birth also possible with just about any human female in the world, any time?  The answer is certainly NO.  Attaining piety in a fraudulently manner for the sake of concealing loose morals and avoiding its embarrassments is a lowly practice. Such persons end up making themselves still more dishonorable when they make light of the special miracles of Allah Almighty which He bestowed only on His chosen slaves.  These unconscientious persons need to keep in mind a very simple fact:  While they may mislead or win the support of some of their fellow human beings, they can NEVER mislead nor gain the favor of The Almighty, The One and Only.
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2015, 11:35:35 pm »

I don't know what the heck is happening to this damn world.  It seems to be going through astonishing phases of cunning madness never witnessed before!  Promiscuity among nuns has actually gotten widespread since quite some time, similar to their male counterparts.  But I never knew of such a reaction pretending to act dumb that they never knew how it happened.  It's sinfully shrewd, totally perfidious .. deceitful, scheming and outright shameless!  As a permissive bunch of people, they do not consider it necessary to restrain their animal desires, but at least they shouldn't come up with childish pretenses to cover them.   I was just as shocked to read the attitude of the people purposely trying to act naive to save the reputation of their lecherous clerics.  You rightly pointed out that they fight until breathless to refute the facts of the Noble Quran.  But never question their own double-dealers who have falsehood written all over them.

Thank you very much Sister Heba.  It's very interesting to read the way you've displayed and compared the fallacies of the ignorant with the authentic contents of the Noble Quran. 

Such manipulative ignorance as we see today does not deserve guidance nor forgiveness from The Almighty.  Only Hellfire will settle their shameful account.  InshAllah, ameen.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 12:26:28 am »

OMG !!   Is this link about the Latin American nun in Italy a sick joke or does such degradation really exist in today's world?  A woman, a nun, being rushed to hospital thinking she's seriously ill only to find out she's going through labor and is about to give birth ?? !!  LaaughingAway   This is hilariously vicious!  Well, when this liar said she didn't know how she got prego, she must have discreetly meant within herself that she didn't remember how many male tramps she slept with.  Or, if anyone wants to support her story, they must seriously presume she's suffering from acute dementia, most likely Alzheimer's Disease.  Though 99% chances are that such folks are biologically healthy unmitigated liars, with no self-respect and not even an ounce of scruples.

I seek refuge in Allah, The Most Exalted, from the ugly shades of this nasty modern world. 

Thank you Sister Heba for elucidating the facts so articulately from the Noble Quran and exposing the liars.  One needs to keep track of every misguidance in order to catch its falsehood and kick it off.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 12:37:59 am »

Yes, isn't it appalling and disgusting?  Or should I say comically disgusting.



I seek refuge in Allah, The Most Exalted, from the ugly shades of this nasty modern world. 

Ameen ya Allah.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 10:48:00 am »

Shameful would be an understatement.  The mentality is outright sickening.  The reason they're behaving dumb and complacent is because they want to gradually introduce the practice of sexual promiscuity as an accepted culture among Christian clerics as they have among their general public. Instead of abolishing the rule of celibacy and allowing marriage, they will keep the ban on marriage and instead allow fornication, doubling their sin by adding hypocrisy to depravity.  Consequently, just as having illegitimate children isn't considered immoral among the public, similarly after some years it won't be considered immoral for nuns and priests either.  Falling lower and lower and there will come a point when animals will be far more civilized than them in realizing the significance of training their carnal desires. 

Thank you Sister Heba for going through the details and explaining that Divine miracles do not happen with ordinary people and are NOT to be used for phoney purposes to cover up misdeeds of immoralists and reprobates.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 12:36:10 pm »

You're absolutely absolutely right brother.  That's what things are heading at.  General public gets a boost to promote immorality from celibrities; and now no one sees anything wrong if the clerical circle joins the rest. 

I sent this story around through email to relatives and friends.  One lady (Muslim lady) I sent it to says how can we be sure that they think the nun is a virgin mother?  I said we are not sure of anything, but we are definitely sure of the insinuation of pretending to be calm and dumb means.  They have left it up to the world to conclude whether they get fooled and consider it virgin birth or simply accept fornication as a culture.  Either way their purpose is fulfilled cause they don't want to stigmatize their community.  In today's world, stigmatization and slandering is only meant for the Muslim world for an array of reasons with its main root in politics.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 12:58:50 pm »

Salams folks.  I had a nice time going through all your views.  Thanks so much.  You're right Sister Ruhi, the insinuation speaks very loud in this case.  About 50 years ago when the standard of morals in the West was much higher, children born out of wedlock were rare.   The term "illegitimate" was a common expression for those born out of wedlock.  Nowadays it's a very different story.  Among the mainstream population in any Western country, at least 40% say their parents aren't (or weren't) married.  Incidents of children or individuals who never knew the names of their fathers are common because many such persons are born out of one night stands and even the mother has no idea of the father's whereabouts at the time she realizes she's carrying his child. 

The Western society no more sees any difference between legitimate or illegitimate children.  By this I do not mean discriminating illegitimate children - not at all - after all it's not the poor child's fault by any stretch of the imagination.  Rather the child is the victim.  Fault lies squarely on the parents.  Thus, my  allusion is to the lack of awareness of this rising dreadful culture.  People should find it alarming, disconcerting instead of displaying nonchalance .... more for the sake of the kids and their future than the parents. 

Which kid would ever be totally happy raised by a single parent as parents of most illegitimate kids never get married even after the child is born?  Despite all of this, unfortunately it's become a common practice.  Thus the term "illegitimate" is not used for children born out of wedlock any longer.  In the modern world of today they are called "love child."  In the case of nuns the issue of embarrassment still lingers. The society is steadily trying to get rid of it through apathy which might be misunderstood by many as "virgin birth."  Just as illegitimate children of couples are called "love child,"  sooner rather than later illegitimate children of nuns will be called "virgin birth."

At least the conscientious ones among us must say it loud and clear that virgin birth was only in the case of Virgin Maryam when she gave birth to Prophet Jesus (pbuh).  It will not be with anyone else.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 01:25:48 pm »

That was very honestly and comprehensively stated Sister Heba. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2015, 01:59:41 pm »

And in some cases where a rich father decides to raise the illegitimate kid as a single parent, it often becomes a business transaction as in the case of Portuguese football player, Cristiano Renaldo.  He produced an illegitimate son after a one night stand, then they made a deal paying 10 million to that woman to remain silent and not claim the child.  That entire society is gone down the drain.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2015, 02:07:46 pm »

Sister Ruhi, you're welcomed.

Br. TS ,, yes that's right.  I also read about that idiot's filthy story.  First the rumor spread that it's a surrogate child.  Then it was out that the child is a product of a one night stand, and they are not telling the child anything about his mother.  They began by telling him his mom was dead.  But later the father and his family decided to stay absolutely silent.  None of these selfish wretches realize what sort of affect it will have on the boy as he grows older.  That's what I meant that most of these kids grow up to be quite unhappy and how wouldn't they? 
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2015, 02:10:53 pm »

Yes, that's how the story is going.  Disgusting!!  The biggest problem responsible for spreading such filth is that these people think they will live in this world forever.  Complete lack of spiritual contentment resulting in complete lack of a civilized conscience.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2015, 02:14:33 pm »

Yes, that's how the story is going.  Disgusting!!  The biggest problem responsible for spreading such filth is that these people think they will live in this world forever.  Complete lack of spiritual contentment resulting in complete lack of a civilized conscience.

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