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Response to Answering-Islam's reproof regarding North & South Poles

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« on: February 18, 2015, 06:58:19 am »

As-Salam Alaykum MV team, members and guests.

First and foremost let me tell Answering-Islam and WikiIslam NOT to stamp my words with their patent trademark of "apologist."  I have absolutely no reasons to be an apologist.  My responses are not based on serving a blind mission.  They are based on what I've genuinely understood. 

Here is another childish stricture by the WikiIslam and Answering-Islam crowd.  A typical example of a hasty condemnation when people are in a hurry to talk for the sake of talking regardless of the discrepancy of what they utter.

Since the Quran does not mention about the North and South poles, the harebrained belligerence of Answering-Islam and WikiIslam call it the Quran's  "Ignorance of the North and South Poles."

Answering-Islam proves its lack of awareness to comprehend simple Quranic information, and then dumps its own inability as "ignorance" of the Quran.

If North and South poles aren't mentioned, their sweeping judgment prompts them to conclude that God Almighty doesn't know about the arctic regions.  Well, that way Europe, America, China, Central Asia, South Asia, Australia and more are also not mentioned either.  So, according to Wiki's assessment, God Almighty doesn't know of any of these places??  That's a very, very cross-eyed perception!

God has mentioned in the Quran that He sent messengers to every community in this planet.  He has also confirmed in the Quran that He has informed us about some of His messengers and hasn't informed us about others.  How do you know Allah didn't already communicate with the people of all these lands (including North and South poles) by sending His messengers?

How does Wiki and Answering-Islam know the reason why Allah Almighty chose to withhold this information?
Logically, how does not mentioning a certain information be construed as "ignorance"?
Answering-Islam and WikiIslam are playing the guessing game with the desperate hope of earning the benefit of the doubt by winning over naive and weak minds.

The Quran is not a Book of science nor geography nor history.  It's a Book of Guidance which mentions only selected scientific information on various topics in 'fill-in-the-blanks' method with a specific purpose, that is, to make matters favorable for serious thinkers.  Allah Almighty didn't mention North and South poles (just as He didn't mention almost all other parts of the world) because He knew the future; He knows the curiosity of the human mind; He knew what humans would contribute in future, He knew their upcoming endeavors and He knew that they would explore and discover which is one of the responsibilities humans carry.  Consequently the type of human interpretation of their findings is itself a test of humanity by the Divine Power.  The wise will thank and praise Him, taking the results of their efforts a blessing from Allah, while the ignorant will praise themselves and grow in arrogance and disobedience.
In the Quran, Allah Almighty gives humanity the freedom to interpret their thoughts and He watches the direction in which they drift.

Try to focus on the issue through a plain and honest similitude.  If you were avid of the future and you knew that 500 years down the road technology would provide us with cars that run without gas, fly like air planes and chat with humans like talkies.  If you began announcing this .... how do you expect the contemporary world to react other than sheer disbelief or simply making light of you?
The Noble Quran does not uphold the method of spoon feeding humans.  It expects them to locate the right path with the help of His Guidance (Quran), and with the assistance of their common sense and efforts (through education).  But hardline and quarrelsome Christians, Jews and pagans have the opposite approach.  Their intellectual lethargy prevents them from thinking and perceiving with logic, and their hostility encourages them to adopt bias.  This disastrous amalgam of laziness, foolishness and hate makes them hanker after spoon-fed information viewing the Noble Quran as a work manual.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2015, 11:50:15 pm »

MashAllah, a totally refreshing read.  So sensibly and realistically elucidated, brother. 

As you stated, the Noble Quran is not a Book of science nor history nor geography nor economics.  It's a complete code of human life (spiritual and earthly).  Thus the Quran mentions selected aspects on the above mentioned spheres and leaves the rest for readers to investigate.  The interpretation of their investigation depends on the strength of their grasp which arises from the quality of their minds and consequently exposing the extent of their inclination to grasp the Ultimate Truth. 

It also boils down to the issue you already mentioned that Christians, Jews, atheists and pagans have a big problem involving intellectual lethargy.  This is in addition to their predominant bias.  The disastrous combination has stunted their intellectual abilities as well as their morals, leading to an unprecedented fiasco and demoting their status from humans to some weird lower species. 

Those running Answering-Islam and WikiIslam are among the top enemies of Allah Almighty.  In the Hereafter, I wish them profound suffering in the lowest depth of Hellfire.  InshAllah.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 02:56:13 pm »

That's very wisely put brother.  MashAllah.  Unfortunately the AI and WI crowd is substantially devoid of common sense plus their obduracy makes them a very pathetic lot.  I doubt if they will follow your illuminated path of thoughts.  Like Sis Ruhi said, the minds of these uneducated creatures is plagued with lethargy and lack of will-power. 
The standard issue raised by the same lot is how can Muslims pray and fast in a Arctic regions where the sun doesn't show up for 6 months and then doesn't disappear for the next 6 months.

To answer this simple question (which they may consider tough), only focus on why Muslims are commanded to pray and fast?  The obligation to pray five times each day at different timings is not for the purpose of following the sun nor the moon nor for observing the clock. The purpose of five daily prayers at fixed times spread across each day is to think of Allah and maintain contact with Him in a balanced way throughout every single day.  That can be done no matter where one lives.  If someone is living in the North or South pole, they simply need to keep aside a few minutes for prayers every 2 to 3 hours daily.  The existence of a clock in modern times will further help to keep the count of 5 prayers a day.  In other words, select the prayer timings for remembrance of Allah which need not be according to the positioning of the sun nor the moon.

Similar common sense is required for fasting.  In peak winter season with short days, average fasting hours in North America and Europe are 8, 9 or 10 hours.  In peak summer season it's 17, 18 or 19 hours.  If someone living in the arctic regions wants to fast, let them choose a flat average duration for both seasons, example 8.5 hours throughout winter and 17.5 hours throughout summer.  As simple as that.  It goes without saying that one doesn't need to get fixated and fret on these different conditions in the Arctic regions.  Such differences are the will and decision of Allah.  We need to use our common sense. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2015, 03:04:37 pm »

That's very well thought out, Sister Zeynab, on how to adjust prayer and fasting timings by selecting flat average durations.  Alhumdulilah.  That's exactly it.

Regarding something else I read a few days ago, some other similar idiot copied a question from somewhere and started boasting like a rocket scientist that physicists calculate the sun won't die for the next 5 billion years so why do humans have only one billion years left on earth?  My question is who the heck told anyone to confirm 5 billion and one billion years for the sun and humans?  When will these sheeple learn that all such "scientific" views are theories and assumptions, not assertions.  Science has been very upfront time and again that it reads on the basis of presumed possibilities not confirmations.  Yet the desire to fight and mislead within the disbelievers drives them to misperceive and misinterpret not only the Quran but also the approach of science .  Moreover, neither the Quran nor science have stated, not even hinted, that the destruction of the planet is mandatorily tied up with the destruction of the sun.  The sun might be destroyed on the Last Day of earth or Allah may have kept a separate time for it, only HE knows best.
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