Message #15524

[Ruhi_Rose]

Woa!  altered bibblioes     exactly like the hadith, as you would find a certain hadith compiled by 4 compilers and forged by half a dozen narrators with varying words and ideas in each.

It's important to add that the AI thugs adopt the tactic playing the language card to attack the Quran, and to distract and win over vulnerable minds, portraying the Quran carries literal meanings of its verses.  I don't know how much of such an attitude is the AI gang's obduracy and how much is mischief. Apparently 50/50.
 
The undeniable fact any reader of the Quran would know is that the Quran consists of connotations of the truth along with the allegorical style in many verses.  This aspect has been confirmed by the Quran itself.  "He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it. None knoweth its explanation save Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe therein; the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really heed"  (3:7).  SubhanAllah, who else can be so beautifully articulate other than the The Almighty, The Greatest.   Of course there are many direct verses as well ("the substance of the Book" as He states) pertaining to community laws & infrastructure and ethics.  But several historical narrations have an allegorical style, some are also marvelously poetic with a rhythm for greater emphasis on important commandments.  That's why we say the Noble Quran is meant for intelligent people, perceptive people, not for cobblers like the AI party.   While little knowledge is a dangerous thing, it's far worse with AI.  Their ZERO knowledge can be a horrendous thing.

But why go that far?  With Answering-Islam's type of arguments, today we should not be using the very common English expressions "sunset" and "sunrise" which even scientists, astronomers and all professionals use while speaking and writing in the modern world.  Wouldn't a literal analysis bring out a discrepancy?  After all, the sun doesn't spin nor rotate.  Therefor practically it neither sets nor rises.  So, should it be replaced with something like "earth spin to light" and "earth spin to darkness?"  Intellectually it would sound pretty uncouth.  Every language has its own style, eloquence and injunctions that are meant to enhance its essence and highlight its denotation.  The problem lies with those who are unable to follow the linguistic edicts of the language they read.  Still more unfortunate, it's not always a blunder.  It's often an agenda

That's an excellent point Sister Zeynab.  The expressions are so common, used by everyone, and I doubt if there's a single person who doesn't know that it's the movement of the earth that causes sunrise and sunset. The AI gang should be asked what they would call the use of these expressions or must the English language give up it's style because there are too many unschooled and nescient folks like AI cobblers?