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« on: May 09, 2015, 01:24:50 pm »

As-salaam Alaikum folks.

BEWARE OF ANOTHER HOAX.

It isn't a Hadith but goes on similar lines so I'm posting it here.

This is going around as a chain message via email like wildfire, somewhat like the sun rising from the West kind of nonsense.

QUOTE:
"09/05/2015 9:19:51 am: Today at night whoever does dua will be accepted because the Moon will do Tawaaf around the Kaaba, please forward this to everyone and dont miss anyone out! Rabbi minkulli zambi watubu illiahi if you send this dua to your friends Allah will solve all your problems if you trust Allah and believe in Him then send it to your friends and see how Allah solves your problems.

Must read this dua tonight.  Tonight at 3:25am the moon will go around the Kaaba and the sky will be light blue, this is the moment of acceptance and this moment comes after every 100 thousand years, u can ask God whatever u want to ask, please send this to every one close to u so that they can know and benefit
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UNQUOTE:

Another slightly differing version of the second paragraph:

QUOTE:
"Tonight at 3.25am Mecca time, the moon will circle around the Kaabah. This will effect on the sky and the sky will have blue light. This will be the time of acceptance of prayers. This is happening after ten million years. Please inform everybody by passing this. 3.25am mecca time. West Malaysia and singapore time will be 8.25am."
UNQUOTE:

Some storytellers who like to mess around with bunkum claim that this information comes from some Malaysian astrophysicist.  Whether or not it comes from an astrophysicist is irrelevant.  Rubbish is rubbish.  This belongs to the garbage bin so just trash it there.  It's nothing beyond a super hoax and an emotional blackmail for the naive.

It's also rumored that this hoax usually comes around August every year.  That's obviously not true either.  I got it tonight, month of May 2015.

A man named Majid Abu Zahira, head of Jeddah Astronomy Association says: “From that perpendicular angle, the moon will be around 370,115 km away from earth and its face will be lightened by 98.6 per cent.”  This was quoted in a Saudi or Gulf newspaper.  Apparently the mullahs frilled it up further by saying the moon also goes around the Kaaba after being directly above it.

According to a Middle Eastern newspaper called Alyoum, such a phenomenon helps Muslims worldwide in locating the direction of Makkah, quote:  “If a Muslim in any part of the world just looks straight at the moon during that phenomenon, then Makkah is in that direction.”  What if a Muslim is in some place 500 miles away from Mecca or farther?  No one can walk 500 miles in a few minutes.  Each night he sees the moon and walks in that direction, the following morning the moon will disappear.  So, which direction is he supposed to walk during daylight?  After a week or less, the moon will no longer be above the Kaaba at all.  Why does Alyoum say such pointless things?

Obviously there are nights when the moon can be seen directly above the Kaaba just as it can be seen directly over any other place or point at different days of the month.  But that's nothing to go 'ga ga' about.  It has no spiritual significance whatsoever.  Where does the Quran say that the moon does tawaf around the Kaaba?  Where does the Quran say that when the moon is directly above the Kaaba is a good time to make dua?  Aren't all times good to make dua provided your iman is firm and your heart is sincere?  What's  important is that when people visit the Kaaba during Hajj or Umrah, they ought to utilize that experience to influence their lives in a positive way and strengthen their Faith as elucidated in the Noble Quran.  Prayers are useful whenever your heart is sincerely drawn toward Allah.  The month of Ramadan and the time of Hajj are also excellent times for supplications as fasting and Hajj are important forms of worship in the Sight of Allah.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2015, 01:32:01 pm »

LOL  Grin  I received this once, 2 years ago.  Thank Allah Almighty never after that.  I recall telling a friend about it, and she said, maybe the purpose is to encourage people to offer salat-al-leil.  I told her that if anyone wants to encourage salat-al-leil then let them say it like human beings.  Why contrive such a drama and attach it with a lie and superstition?  Of course she had no answer. 

Saudis and Emeratis are especially circulating this vigorously this year to distract the world from their enhanced treachery of forming an illegal coalition and bombing Yemen.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2015, 01:36:30 pm »

A cousin of mine also said exactly that.  It's the same lame excuse people make to justify the bad hadiths.

The second part of your comment has a very valid point.  Trying to use this kind of humbug as a distraction.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2015, 01:54:00 pm »

 Cheesy Grin Grin  Very old hoax.  Emotional blackmail is the right expression to describe the attitude of such chain emails.  These type of messages can also be categorized as shirk because it is only Allah Almighty who can grant reward, punishment or trials.  Someone drafting a text message has zero power to decide upon a person's fate or destiny. 

Would also like to take this opportunity to mention something else.

Sometimes a dua by mufti Menk on Youtube (video below) is also sent along with this chain message to pose as if the dua is for this night with the moon directly above the Kaaba.  Though Menk is supplicating on Leyla-tul-Qadr, at one point of that dua (4.37 minutes after the run) the mufti says "Ya Allah grant us Jannah without reckoning Ya Allah."  Gave me a jolt with one of those "wait a minute" moments.  I ask myself, is this what our muftis and imams are expecting, that Allah Almighty will randomly grant Jannah to everyone without reckoning.

Next ..

That's followed by his words (with his voice cracking) quote: "If You are to take a count of our deeds we are too embarrassed of what we've done Ya Allah.  Ya Allah don't look at our deeds, Ya Allah forgive us without reckoning .."  After that he's definitely crying, remembering his own sins galore based on those awful Hadiths and the obnoxious Wahabi fatwas.

Next ...

He adds further "Ya Allah grant us Jannah without hisab, without kitab protect us from Jahanum ya Allah."   This dua is really appalling.  He's not asking for forgiveness.  He's going much beyond that.  He is asking for a complete repeal of all bad deeds and sins of every laggard despite the assertion by Allah that a disobedient person can never be the same as an obedient one.   Can a person who takes Allah's Mercy so much for granted and consequently follows his own lust ever be equal to a sincere hard worker?

"Or do those who commit ill-deeds suppose that We shall make them as those who believe and do good works, the same in life and death ?  Bad is their judgment!"  (45:21  - Glorious Quran, Surah Al-Jathiyah [The Kneeling]).

"Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire, a hapless journey's end ?"  (3:162  - Glorious Quran, Surah Al-Imran [The Family of Imran]).

"The blind man is not equal with the seer;Nor is darkness (tantamount to) light;"(35:19-20  - Glorious Quran, Surah Fatir [The Originator of Creation]).



Here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDDODs95Xj0&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2015, 02:05:55 pm »

......  These type of messages can also be categorized as shirk because it is only Allah Almighty who can grant reward, punishment or trials.  Someone drafting a text message has zero power to decide upon a person's fate or destiny. 

Absolutely right brother.



Haa !! ??   Shocked   

Checked those portions you mentioned just now.  Can hardly believe this man.  And I doubt if anyone questioned him that he's being so impertinently demanding, amounting to violating the instructions of Allah.  Menk must have really done some horrible things in life behind the backs of his wife, kids and parents. 

Very precise observation brother TS.  And thanks for quoting those great Verses.  Proves without a doubt how misguided these guys are and in the process  they spoil others as well.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2015, 02:09:56 pm »

He makes dua for uniting the members of the Ummah.  Yet soon after finishing this supplication he will goad the fatwas that call for killing Shiias in Syria, Yemen and Iran.   Only Allah can deal with their hypocrisy and theatrics.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2015, 02:11:22 pm »

Exactly ....
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2015, 02:18:09 pm »

Yes I found those portions.  Absolutely mind boggling, unspeakable.  Instead of begging Allah for guidance and avoidance of all ill deeds, for which he does supplicate earlier in the same dua, he now suddenly jumps for a complete waiver of all violations.  What a 'teacher?' Apparently his own guilty conscience is pinching him.   And now those  conscienceless Salafists with long, filthy and scraggly lice-filled beards and pent up zeal for committing zina, alcohol, cheating and sectarian killings will merrily go home with plenty of new ideas.

Also check at 6.00 mins.  Quote: "Ya Allah the magicians of Musa prostrated once and you forgave them, we prostrate everyday ya Allah forgive us"  and gives off his fake crying again. 

Allah forgave the former magicians who prostrated before Him during Pharaoh's era because Allah knew that the hearts of those magicians were sincere when they asked forgiveness of Him and prostrated; they didn't ask for freebies like Menk.  But Mr. Mufti Menk & co. so often preach what they seldom practice.  Or does Mr. Menk think Allah does not know that ??
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2015, 02:28:30 pm »

Instead of begging Allah for guidance and avoidance of all ill deeds, for which he does supplicate earlier in the same dua, he now suddenly jumps for a complete waiver of all violations.  What a 'teacher?'

That's right.  Wanting Paradise without reckoning, without hisab, without kitab.  That means he also does not want the angels appointed by Allah to record his deeds.




  And now those  conscienceless Salafists with long, filthy and scraggly lice-filled beards and pent up zeal for committing zina, alcohol, cheating and sectarian killings will merrily go home with plenty of new ideas.


O yes, Menk's fast lane disciples must be really elated to hear that.



Also check at 6.00 mins.  Quote: "Ya Allah the magicians of Musa prostrated once and you forgave them, we prostrate everyday ya Allah forgive us"  and gives off his fake crying again.  [/size]

LOL ,, another very improper thing to ask.  It's the same mentality.  He is only looking at the outward gesture of sajood.  What goes on within a person's heart and mind during sajood is the most important based on which Allah either accets or rejects our sajood.  But for Menk all that is not important and he can see only an outward comparison.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2015, 02:42:33 pm »

Quote from: Truth Seeker link=topic=4529.msg15684#msg15684
Wanting Paradise without reckoning, without hisab, without kitab.  That means he also does not want the angels appointed by Allah to record his deeds.

Aha, yes.  I didn't note that.  It's not just without hisab but also without kitab.  Wallahi Mr. Mufti.

Quote from: Truth Seeker link=topic=4529.msg15684#msg15684

 He is only looking at the outward gesture of sajood.  What goes on within a person's heart and mind during sajood is the most important based on which Allah either accets or rejects our sajood.  But for Menk all that is not important and he can see only an outward comparison.

That's always their problem ..... that's why he is throwing into a fit and howling away before Allah to forgive all his sins inside of him so he can walk into Paradise like a corrupt Prime Minister or President while the rest of us who try our best to prepare ourselves for the Last Day and struggling to improve our hisab and kitab can trail behind him.  He thinks the laws of Akhirat are the same as this duniya.  He will come to know, InshAllah.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 02:44:05 pm »

Ahaaha ha ha ha   Grin   very correctly expressed Sister.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2015, 02:46:14 pm »

 Cheesy   Thumbsup  Really enjoying this read ......
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2015, 03:10:17 am »

Hmmm ,, good I read this thread.  I never knew about this bluff.  Not that I wouldn't recognize the ruse if I got it.  Only Allah knows from where these people get such ideas.

Coming to the video, the audience must have been many.  So Menk did his best for a dazzling performance.  He didn't say anything which a believer isn't supposed to know but he certainly did tarnish his dua by asking Allah for Jannah "without reckoning" and without "kitab" making his own path and the path of all sinners easy.   ""Good"" lesson for your naive followers Sheikh Menk.  Keep it up.  With such a selfish and ugly plea, he ruined the entire dua.


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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2015, 03:15:21 am »

They can never go sensibly from start to finish any time they open their mouths.  They have to preposterously mess up something at some point in a way that completely clashes with the Quran and consequently ruin the entire lecture or dua.  Always observed this.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2015, 03:30:16 am »

lol .. yes, that's how it is with these folks.  The reason why these surprise blunders persist whenever they talk is the refusal to take the Quran as the Sole Criterion.  The absence of that concept is a dangerous thing.  It takes away the awareness and the sense of duty of staying compatible with the Quran.  Hence they keep slipping off the track, spoiling their lectures & duas, and concocting bizarre chain letters via emails.

Another thing if you've observed here regarding Menk's desire to enter Paradise without reckoning.  All our muftis, sheikhs and imams presume in their subconscious that they are perfect.  Their $8,000 diploma from a Saudi or Emerati "Islamic" university will buy them Paradise regardless of their deeds.  Seems like he got that concept out of his subconscious into his conscious, hollering away to get rid of reckoning.  If he only knew how crazy he sounds.
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