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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2015, 01:42:33 am »

People who sign-up ought to know that MV isn't a hangout for the disputatious who are on the lookout for attention to establish their reputation as the "knowledgeable ones."  Allah knows best who is truly knowledgeable and He will grant them the reward, Insh'Allah.  As true believers our job is to be focused on our efforts to stick to the right path as shown by Him.

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Last but not least, if you are a narcissist then forget about guest book intro or signing up.  This forum specifically promotes the Noble Quran.  It's NOT the right place for narcissism and self-adulation.

Many of this type have discreetly made their way here despite MV plainly mentioning the above.  We are all sharers of each others' knowledge.  No one is a teacher or student of another.  Necessary disagreement should be expressed by all means, and humbly, if one want's to get their point through.  No need to respond by discrediting sensible points of others and accusing them of saying things they never said, only for the sake of nurturing one's own ego having the last word.  These are time wasting competitions found in many online forums but not here.   But truth matters greatly and nothing to be above the Word or Decision of the Quran.  The Quran has emphatically confirmed shirk to be the highest category of sin.  Anyone who denies that or even insinuates to de-emphasize it will be corrected.

The point which this former member, Pervez Mushtaq, has overlooked is that sectarianism is an outcome of the larger institution of shirk.  The evil ideology of shirk starts with worshiping idols and stretches up to canonizing and following human icons with reverence.

When people make sects, they divide the original path shown in the Final Message by Allah The Almighty into different schools of thought and each school has its own founder and subsequent leaders considered infallible by their unthinking followers who venerate and honor these founders & leaders with the same devotion which is the due entitlement of ALLAH ONLY.  If these ignorant followers had not slipped or deviated altogether from Monotheism (Tawheed) to the misguided path of the ideology of shirk, they would never have agreed to initiate sectarianism, let alone participate in it or become a party to it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2015, 02:56:13 am »

As-salaam Alaikum brother TS and many thanks for your thoughtful reminder quoting point 12 of our forum rules.



The point which this former member, Pervez Mushtaq, has overlooked is that sectarianism is an outcome of the larger institution of shirk.  The evil ideology of shirk starts with worshiping idols and stretches up to canonizing and following human icons with reverence.

When people make sects, they divide the original path shown in the Final Message by Allah The Almighty into different schools of thought and each school has its own founder and subsequent leaders considered infallible by their unthinking followers who venerate and honor these founders & leaders with the same devotion which is the due entitlement of ALLAH ONLY.  If these ignorant followers had not slipped or deviated altogether from Monotheism (Tawheed) to the misguided path of the ideology of shirk, they would never have agreed to initiate sectarianism, let alone participate in it or become a party to it.

Absolutely.  This is an exceedingly coherent aspect which you explained so explicitly.  I cannot agree more.  Making divisions itself stems from the creed of shirk.  Thus we see sectarianists following a variety of precepts clashing with the principles of the Noble Quran.  Those who are immersed in these divisions will always support the kuffar more than their Muslim brethren.  E.g. A Sunni sectarianist will be closer to a kuffar hindu, buddhist or zoroastrian etc. than to their Shiia Muslim brethren, and vice-versa.  A Shiia sectarianist will be more friendly with those kuffar than their Sunni Muslim brethren.  That's because neither of these sects believe is following the Quran alone and thus they are oblivious of the importance of Tawheed.

Thanks again brother and sorry for the late acknowledgement of your comment.  Also your previous comments along with Sister Heba's were profoundly illuminating and discerning.
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2015, 03:02:35 am »

Making divisions itself stems from the creed of shirk.  Thus we see sectarianists following a variety of precepts clashing with the principles of the Noble Quran.  Those who are immersed in these divisions will always support the kuffar more than their Muslim brethren.  E.g. A Sunni sectarianist will be closer to a kuffar hindu, buddhist or zoroastrian etc. than to their Shiia Muslim brethren, and vice-versa.  A Shiia sectarianist will be more friendly with those kuffar than their Sunni Muslim brethren.  That's because neither of these sects believe is following the Quran alone and thus they are oblivious of the importance of Tawheed.

You got it right Sister Zeynab, that's just it.



Thanks again brother and sorry for the late acknowledgement of your comment.  Also your previous comments along with Sister Heba's were profoundly illuminating and discerning.


No problem at all Sister.  You're very welcomed.
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