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Does the Quran allow the Prophet (pbuh) to have more than 4 wives?


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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2017, 01:51:18 pm »


Ah!  brilliantly perceived   Thumbsup

Do tell us about their reaction and why they persist in presuming that aspect of limitless wives for the Prophet (pbuh).
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2017, 01:58:26 pm »

ha ha, rightly said Sister Ruhi.  I'd say, do discuss by all means.  But don't expect any answers.  I can tell you right now what they'll say.  They will return to that same garbage dump of hadith, rummage through it and pick some lies claiming the "9 or 11 or 14 wives" of the Prophet.  Another thing the hadithists don't realize is that if you ask for evidence for some palpably unauthentic content of the hadith, that evidence should come from the Quran or at least from common sense. There's no point in going back to hadith to search for evidence of (intentional) hadith gaffes.  That's like one thief testifying for another thief in a court of law.  It would be rejected as felony, wouldn't it?  So don't expect any plausible answers.  They cannot have any.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 02:06:31 pm »

.........  Another thing the hadithists don't realize is that if you ask for evidence for some palpably unauthentic content of the hadith, that evidence should come from the Quran or at least from common sense. There's no point in going back to hadith to search for evidence of (intentional) hadith gaffes.  That's like one thief testifying for another thief in a court of law.  It would be rejected as felony, wouldn't it?  So don't expect any plausible answers.  They cannot have any.

This is so correct.  It's what happens every time you put a question on those countless absurdities.  They haven't or they prefer not to comprehend that the entire institution (including all its different departments and narrators/compilers) as a single body of needless and discrepant substance that's blatantly outside the fold of a submitter's Faith. 
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 02:11:15 pm »


Exactly Sis Zeynab.  The issue is they prefer not to comprehend .....
 
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 02:21:52 pm »

InshAllah yes Sister Zeynab.  If I get any worthwhile answers I'll post them here.  But I wouldn't hold my breath on it.   Their modus operandi will be exactly as suggested by sister Heba.  That has happened many times before because they have no other choice.  Haqq (Truth) is asserted and made permanent by Allah Almighty.  You cannot create it nor change it.  Hadith is bubbling with so much cooked up baatil (falsehood) that the only strategy of its proponents is to use the contents of that very baatil as their defense so it keeps falling flat on its face repeatedly.  I reiterate, my only purpose is to get the fact out in public.  Whether or not they appreciate it is not favor to me.  I'm only interested in doing a favor to my own soul by accepting and stating what I clearly perceive as the truth.  Alhumdulilah.
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2017, 02:28:19 pm »


Get your point perfectly Sister Ruhi. 

May Allah bless the wise.  Ameen.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2017, 02:29:46 pm »



Ameen, and may Allah Almighty bless you too dear Sis.
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2017, 11:37:25 am »

Our biggest problem is that our people are totally averse to questioning the declarations of the jurists and the clerical circles.  Every unsupported presumption is given a free hand to 'blossom' to its fullest.  Someone will blatantly misinterpret a certain Quranic Verse and then as the years go by, others will refurbish and paint that deviated explanation with fibs and colors, and then it ends up as a solid uncorroborated, untouchable story out of the blue (often illogical or absurd).  It may also often be observed for its non-conformity with the Quran as well as common sense.  Yet none will question it as that requires dissection which would be taken as an infradig by the jurists as well as publicly rattle their credibility causing them much annoyance.  Of course such reasons should not stop the people from probing .... if only they cared less for the repute of their jurists and more for upholding the Truth of our Faith, The Sublime Quran.  After all, it's been inherent of human nature to value the words of other humans more than the infallible Words of the Divine Power.  All previous communities changed / erased the Divine Message sent to them because of this human weakness.   Consequently, those who claim to be "Muslims" repeated history except a very small circle of submitters who can only speak for themselves but are too few in number to change the distortions of the majority. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2017, 11:46:22 am »

You got the words out of my mouth brother.  This problem has had far-reaching consequences not only in the distortion of our Faith but also in the cultural temperament of our people.  Presently it stands not just as our biggest problem, it's the most excruciating heartache.
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2017, 11:59:07 am »


Isn't it a tragic story?  And the poor pathetic 'victims' of that cultural temperament keep going amuck like cheerleaders (even our Guestbook hasn't been spared), their fragile egos making their 'campaign' a point of supposed personal ethics while leaving the real problem - the interpolated deviations - to continue flourishing.  
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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2017, 12:09:42 pm »

lol .... true Sisters.  Just a little while ago I saw the obstinacy of one of them, that Florida guy if I recall correctly, mesmerized in his goal of 'holier than thou' pontification but cozily dismissive of the ongoing misrepresentations and contortions in dire need of exposure. 
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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2017, 12:36:34 pm »

Yep  Cheesy   A spectacular example within the last 24 hours by a Hadithist rescuer at the Gb ..... gloves off combat but NO answers to the real issue.  I'm expecting none tomorrow either when I go to our community center.  But I'll darn well speak up.
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2017, 12:38:29 pm »

 The Hadithsts in their "shinning armors"  ......   Thumbsdwn 
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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2017, 12:44:38 pm »



ha haha ha  Grin   very interesting. 
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