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« on: May 03, 2019, 04:08:38 pm »



As-Salam Alaykum dear everyone.

I've read the very interesting thread we have here on dreams, the original query posted by brother Abu Hafeez, "What does the Quran say about dreams?"

This thread has been hugely helpful for me as I prepare to participate in a post-lecture discussion session at our Islamic community center on the first weekend of Ramadan, Insh'Allah.

I was wondering if anyone has anything else to add as possible information in regard to this topic.  As Muslims, is it obligatory for us to believe in dreams?




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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2019, 06:32:58 pm »




Walaikum As-Salam dear sis .......

Subhan'Allah ... nice dreamy images you posted  Smiley

A few weeks ago I was reading a blog titled "Islam and psychology" that contains a lengthy article on dreams based on Islamic belief.  I read most of it though not the complete piece.  There maybe a few points one may not agree with in this article, but the broad definition is very sensible. 

Quoting Islam and psychology:

"Dreams are of three types: one good dream which is a sort of good tidings from Allah; the evil dream which causes pain is from the satan; and the third one is a suggestion of one's own mind.   

Dreams from Allah have meaning and interpretation.  Allah gives us some glad tiding, or shows us some path, or gives us some future information. Also, the dream can be an encouragement etc. In short, the dream has some meaning, and if it is a 'coded' dream then it needs an interpretation.

Dreams from Shaitan are meaningless and is an attempt from Shaitan to make us worried.

Dreams from Nafs do tell us about the nature and thoughts of the dreamer but they have no real information for the dreamer himself.  Hence, for the dreamer these dreams are meaningless."


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Dreams from Allah have been explained well.  But this blog is of the view that dreams from Allah are repeated again and again.  This is something which may not be necessary.  Often we have a very meaningful dream and we are convinced that Allah has a message for us through that dream.  And then it may never come again.  Sometimes it may, but not necessary.

Dreams from Shaitaan as meaningless and an attempt to disrupt our lives is a very correct assessment.  Dreams from nafs have also been gauged correctly which is the commonest of all dreams.


 
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2019, 06:40:28 pm »



A very sensible summary indeed. 

Btw, would you know anything about that non-Quranic story that's been circulating for a while that dreams shortly before or after Fajr come true?


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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2019, 06:48:29 pm »




A very sensible summary indeed. 


Yes, that's a very realistic explanation posted by Sister Heba.



Btw, would you know anything about that non-Quranic story that's been circulating for a while that dreams shortly before or after Fajr come true?

This idea of dreams being true before or after Fajr comes from one of Abu Huraira's ahadith, and nothing he said has ever been confirmed by the Noble Quran.  Following is that hadith:

Narrated by Abu Hurayra in Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, al-Tirmidhi and Ahmad, Malik.  "Our Lord - Blessed and Exalted is He! - descends every night to the lowest heaven in the last third of the night and says: Who is supplicating Me so that I may answer him? Who is asking forgiveness from Me so that I may forgive him?"


Allah Almighty has confirmed no such concepts.  Sometimes a dream at such a time may have some connections with truth but not necessary.  It all depends on the Will of Allah.   No matter what time the dream comes, we need to be focused on the quality of the dream to perceive its possible message.   And only Allah knows best.

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2019, 06:51:41 pm »



Thanks Sis Zeynab.  I now get the 'inside story' of this concept .......  another hadith distraction. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2019, 06:55:45 pm »



If you check the aspect of dreams in ahadith, you'll go nuts with the variety of guesswork expressed by narrators that are completely unwarranted when compared with Quranic contents. 

According to Abu Huraira in Sahih Bukhari No.9:119, Prophetism is basically about "al-mubashshirat" which means dreams.  Needless to say, complete nonsense.  Such senseless talk can only come from minds of this man and his likes.

Someone by the name of al-Kattani (a 19th century Moroccan cleric from Fez) has termed that hadith quoted by Sister Zeynab as a "mutawatir" which means it's been narrated by several so-called companions.  Al-Kattani claims this hadith was narrated by "23 companions."    Please beware:  The so-called "mutawatir" ahadith only expose a higher risk of mass forgery by ordinary folks labeled as "companions" or "sahabas."

 
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2019, 06:57:53 pm »



Aha, so Mr. Huraira has infiltrated his calculated guesswork in the field of dreams too. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2019, 07:00:30 pm »



"mutawatir" = mass forgery   Grin
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2019, 07:03:42 pm »



lol, yeah  Cheesy

Okay, this other query that often comes from moms of teenage kids to educate and guide their growing children so they don't misunderstand or deviate.  They often ask "what about sexual dreams?"  Can these be interpreted from Satan or Nafs?


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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2019, 07:09:18 pm »



I would say sexual dreams can have both these sources - Satan or Nafs.  It basically depends on the person dreaming.  If the person is of the type who has little or no control over his or her carnal desires in practical life, then Satan would be attempted to mold their minds into having sexual dreams to further misguide them by heightening their lower desires through lustful dreams.   But there are also people who have a good character and yet they may have confused sexual dreams which they don't welcome and upon waking up repent with taubah.   This may be a natural and uncontrollable expression of the nafs coordinating with the body in the state of sleep, and it's no fault of the dreamer as long as they don't take any secret pleasure in such dreams upon awakening. 

It's important to know that only Allah can explain the exact nature of every dream.  We can only surmise while analyzing, but confirmation can only come from Him.


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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2019, 07:13:43 pm »



That's again very correctly explained Sister Heba. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2019, 07:16:06 pm »


Plenty of thanks Sis Heba.  That makes a lot of sense.


So, if someone asks "should a Muslim believe in dreams?"  The answer would be that a Muslim certainly needs to believe in the possibility of the concept of truthful dreams.   But as Muslims we are definitely NOT required to believe in all dreams assuming that their contents are true.   Am I right?


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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2019, 07:44:39 pm »



Yes exactly ....... that's how I'd put it.
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