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Hadith on punishments in the grave

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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2018, 07:52:30 am »


Btw, sister Zeynab, what does "ship burials" mean?

Salaam brother TS.   My profuse apology for missing out on this query you stated long time ago.   

Actually I don't know too many details except that "ship burial" was a pagan custom.    It's also called "boat grave."   A small ship or boat was viewed as the grave.  The cremated body was placed in it along with earthly commodities like clothing, armor, sword, spears, shoes, wigs, spoons, plates, kitchen utensils etc.,  and then the ship or boat was buried.  The idea was much like the Egyptian pyramids where the dead were put inside these huge stone structures with similar earthly belongings.  In all such practices, remains of the rich were accompanied with greater earthly splendor compared to the less wealthy ones.  Some reports say ship burials were only for kings, aristocrats and famous warriors.

Whatever may have been the differing details of different social segments receiving ship burials, it was all bizarre, stupid and nonsensical.  Stupidity was immense.  As of all pagan communities, these European pagans were fixated on cremation of the dead, never burial.   According to these very ignorant folks, burial meant the body being consumed by worms and insects and thus involving a slow process of mixing with dust.  They thought that since cremation turns the body into ashes in a short time, the deceased would go to Paradise quicker.  As in altered Christianity even today, they presume everyone - righteous or unrighteous - will go to Paradise after death.  For the comfort of their own hearts they are on denial by ignoring the reality of Hell to avoid guilt while leading a life full of transgressions.  In fact presently, the practice of cremation (by putting the body in incinerators) has returned in Europe and North America within the Caucasian community;  of course nowadays it's more about saving money as cremation is cheaper than burial within their social system.  The secular Caucasians opt for cremation while the orthodox wealthier Christians may prefer burial.  But cremation is more common.

Many buried ships with all sorts of items have been discovered by modern archaeologists in different parts of Europe which are presumed to be between 1,000 and 1,500 years old.

Ship burial was common among ancient Europeans - Anglo Saxons, Vikings, Barbarians etc. - in the dark ages.   This does not necessarily refer to pre-Christian era.   It should be known that after the first century when Christianity gradually spread across Europe, it was not retained for long.  Several patches of European communities relapsed into paganism.  England officially embraced Christianity as late as early 8th century yet many pagan customs were still rife.   It's also presumed that ancient people of the Philippines followed this custom of ship burial.  It's likely that these people learned it from the early Europeans colonizers who came to the Philippines and forcibly converted the locals into Christianity, but with pagan practices.

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2018, 05:04:34 am »

No problem at all sister.  I also forgot to remind.

Thanks for the info.  Sounds like a real eerie, bad custom.  What surprises me is that it continued in Europe for so long even after they were officially supposed to be "christians."  Rather than following the Monotheistic teachings of Essa son of virgin Maryam, they twisted & altered his teachings to fit into the pagan European culture.   That approach hasn't changed much until now.

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