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« on: June 30, 2019, 09:36:21 am »




As-Salam Alaikum dear everyone.  I intended to put up this post long ago.  Somehow I forgot and as time went by, it got mingled with other posts in my draft folder.  Thank Allah, I found it today while tidying up the draft folder.

Four years ago, April 2015, there was an audio lecture of the Friday Sermon by Sheikh Ahmed Kutty on  iit.podbean.com  showering compliments on the hadith narrator, Abu Dharr, whose false narrations are neck and neck with those babbled by Abu Huraira and his likes.   Four years is not a very long time.  Unfortunately as recently as that, many of our so-called scholars still hadn't woken up to opt for sensibility.   That's my purpose of this post.  You can listen to the lecture yourself in the link I've posted above.  If I recall correctly, the duration is approximately 30 minutes. 

Pathetically, according to Sheikh Kutty, if you want to know what real Islam is, you simply need to look into the lives of the Hadith narrators.  It never even occurred to him that you simply need to stick with the Quran to be the Muslim that Allah wants you to be.

The 'theme' of Sheikh Kutty's lecture revolved around the narration of Abu Dharr quoted below in which this narrator forges the name of my beloved Prophet (pbuh).   Please read it carefully.

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On the authority of Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him):"Some people from amongst the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said to the Prophet (peace be upon him), 'O Messenger of Allah, the affluent have made off with the rewards; they pray as we pray, they fast as we fast, and they give [much] in charity by virtue of their wealth.' He (peace be upon him) said, 'Has not Allah made things for you to give in charity? Truly every tasbeehah [saying subhan-Allah] is a charity, and every takbeerah [saying Allahu akbar] is a charity, and every tahmeedah [saying alhamdulillah] is a charity, and every tahleelah [saying la ilaha illAllah] is a charity. And commanding the good is a charity, and forbidding an evil is a charity, and in the sexual act of each one of you there is a charity.' They said, 'O Messenger of Allah, when one of us fulfills his sexual desire, will he have some reward for that?' He (peace be upon him) said: 'Do you not see that if he were to act upon it [his desire] in an unlawful manner, then he would be deserving of punishment? Likewise, if he were to act upon it in a lawful manner, then he will be deserving of a reward.'"  [Sahih Muslim bin Hajaj]
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Throughout this Friday sermon there were only two or three Quranic Verses recited by the Sheikh. Rest were Hadith fantasies.

Sheikh Kutty did admit that lot of "traditions" have been forged;  he stated that we have to pick the authentic ones but didn't say how the authenticity of those we pick can be proven.  According to him, Bukhari and his student Muslim bin Hajaj are the chief sources of "traditions" and the Sheikh referred to Bukhari as the "commander-in-chief" of the Hadith institution.  In other words, commander-in-chief of tall stories appointed by Shaitaan.  Tragically as we know, many of those ahadith which Sheikh Kutty and his colleagues would find perfectly acceptable are actually no less disturbing than the ones they admit to be unreliable or fabricated.

I almost fell off my chair when I heard the Sheikh claim that Verse 9:100 of the Noble Quran refers to Abu Dharr as one of the persons .. or the only person.   Needless to say, nothing could be more distant from the truth.  Verse 9:100 is quoted as follows which does NOT refer to Abu Dharr. 

"And the first to lead the way, of the Muhajirin and the Ansar, and those who followed them in goodness - Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him, and He hath made ready for them Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide for ever. That is the supreme triumph."  (9:100)  Surah At-Taubah.

As usual, he never clarified how he concluded this Verse to be a reference to Abu Dharr or any other hadith narrator.   If you read Surah At-Taubah, approximately from Verses 9:42 to 9:97, you will find that Allah Almighty has plainly denounced many of those who hovered around the Prophet (pbuh) pretending to be well wishers but were actually laggards whose description in the Quran fits accurately with the ones who narrated a load of very offensive and false ahadith to distort Islam after the passing of the Prophet (pbuh).  Sheikh Kutty has conveniently ignored all those Verses of Surah At-Taubah.

The Sheikh recited Verse 9:100 in original Arabic and then quickly stated its English translation without mentioning the Verse number.  That's another common trick with our shiekhs.  Since most people hardly read the Quran except for Tarawi in Ramadan (of which they seldom understand a single word), Sheikh Kutty was pretty sure that no one would know which Verse he quoted and therefore they would never ask themselves how and why he misinterpreted this Verse as a compliment for Abu Dharr.  But I know which Verse this is and I don't see any evidence whatsoever to interpret Verse 9:100 as a compliment for any hadith narrator.

Whenever our so-called scholars talk in detail about any hadith narrator, that person is always portrayed as the Prophet's (pbuh) best friend.  So, in this sermon, while babbling a load of bunkum about Abu Dharr, Sheikh Kutty claims that Abu Dharr was the first person who met the Prophet (pbuh).  Okay, then what about the commander-in-chief and gold medalist liar / deceiver, Abu Huraira, who is supposed to have narrated 40,000 ahadith in barely 3 years in the name of the Prophet (pbuh) with zero evidence of even meeting the Prophet ever in his entire life?  You'll never get an answer to that question, except that you'll be branded a "munkir-e-hadith" and a "deviant."

Now pay heed to this.  The sermon went on with reference to Abu Dharr's hadith quoted at the start of this post.  "There was no one more fair in speech than Abu Dharr" as claimed by Sheikh Kutty.   Now let's see how "fair of speech" he was.  Abu Dharr came from the "community of the poor" (we've read the same about Abu Huraira).  One day some folks who were poor asked the Prophet that they can't give charity for they are financially straightened. The Prophet said doesn't matter, saying SubhanAllah is charity, saying Allah-o-Akbar is charity, saying Alhumdulilah is charity, saying La ilaha ilAllah is charity, smiling cheerfully is charity, instructing right conduct is charity and forbidding evil is charity.  All that is fine .. I agree totally.  However, charity with good intent means monetary assistance for the poor, and if you can afford to give charity then you should not use zikar as a substitute for charity.   Both zikar(praising Allah) and charity have their own importance as has been clearly elucidated in the Noble Quran.

Continuing with the same hadith, suddenly Abu Dharr went tipsy claiming that the Prophet  said, "in the sexual act of each one of you there is a charity."  These are the sort of 'wait a minute' moments that pop up while reading Hadith which shocks the life out of every sane person.  Then, one of the companions asked how could sexual act be charity?  The reply was that if you indulge in illegal sex that would be worthy of punishment, so if you indulge in lawful sex (alluding to intimacy with spouse) would be worthy of reward.  Man!!  these guys aren't aware even of the basic etiquette of ethics or civilization.  Everyone knows that indulging in zina is completely HARAM and sexual intimacy with spouse is completely HALAL.   But must it imply that sleeping with your wife can be categorized as an official substitute for the true and noble act of charity?   Consummating your relationship with your spouse is something very private and personal in everyone's life.  It's got nothing to do with "charity."  For the sake of Allah, have some sense Abu Dharr and Mr. Kutty!   The Prophet (pbuh) was a hugely dignified gentleman, highly courteous and very intelligent, Alhumdulilah.  He NEVER spoke this way to anyone, that's for sure.

One of the very few things Sheikh Kutty said in this sermon that would be accepted as correct, something which I didn't expect from him, was that if a woman starts to unexpectedly menstruate during Umrah (I'm sure that would also apply for Hajj), her Umrah would still be accepted because this is a problem beyond her control.   This was followed by a story that Aisha went for Hajj with the Prophet and she began having her periods.  She was very grieved and began to weep.  The Prophet comforted her telling her not to worry, it wasn't her fault.  Definitely the Prophet was rational and sensible and this is precisely what he would say in such a situation, but we don't know if such an incident really happened as so many similar stories have been fabricated.

Sheikh Kutty describes the janaza (funeral) of Abu Dharr.   He says that the Prophet (pbuh) predicted Abu Dharr will live a loner and die a loner and will be raised alone on the Day of Resurrection.  Well, we know for sure that the Prophet (pbuh) NEVER guessed and predicted anything, much less the unseen pertaining to the next world.  The Glorious Quran categorically states that the Prophet is NOT avid of the unseen. 

"Say: I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner."   46:9. 

"Say:   For myself I have no power to benefit, nor power to hurt, save that which Allah wills. Had I knowledge of the Unseen, I should have abundance of wealth, and adversity would not touch me.  I am but a warner, and a bearer of good tidings unto folk who believe."  7:188. 

"Say:  None in the heavens and the earth knows the Unseen save Allah; and they know not when they will be raised (again)."  27:65.

"Say:  I am only a mortal like you.  My Rab inspires in me that your God is only One God. And whoever hopes for the meeting with his Rab, let him do righteous work, and make none sharer of the worship due unto his Lord."   18:110.

"Then say, :  The Unseen belongs to Allah.  So wait!  Indeed!  I am waiting with you."  10:20.

"Say:  I say not unto you (that) I possess the treasures of Allah, nor that I have knowledge of the Unseen; and I say not unto you:  Lo! I am an angel.  I follow only that which is inspired in me.  Say: Are the blind man and the seer equal ?  Will you not then take thought ?"  6:50.



I tell you folks, if you are a true Quran follower, listening to these Hadithist lectures feels like sitting in a roadside cafe sipping  شاي (tea) and listening to a smug and self-righteous boss who barely knows his limits.  If my beloved Prophet's (pbuh) soul was to listen to the references galore they make to him, pinning up his name with strange and offensive narrations, his immediate reaction would be "WHAT????"


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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2019, 02:18:27 am »



Wa'salaam sister.  After a long time you've posted a lengthy and useful analysis of the hadith world that's devastating our beautiful Islam.  I so much appreciate the honesty of your logic.  I watched that sermon, thanks for the link too.  This sermon is a typical example where our scholars may mention one correct point and then wash it away with buckets of water mentioning a bunch of profound absurdities.

You won't imagine the lengthy tales our folks have made on Abu Dharr's meeting the Prophet (pbuh) and embracing Islam.  If only they had spent half that time reading and reflecting on the Noble Quran. 

The final hadith on Abu Dharr forging the name of the Prophet (pbuh) says "Abu Dharr, may Allah have mercy upon you. You'll live alone, die alone, rise from the dead alone and enter Paradise alone."   Ya Allah!  The Prophet (pbuh) would never even think of speaking as such.  They forget that the Final Messenger was a man chosen by Allah Almighty for his honesty and cleanness of the heart.  They make it sound as if the Final Messenger was some cult leader or a pir who could say whatever he pleased to his disciples.


 
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Such lectures have tremendous potential for misguidance of the naive.  Probably in this sermon Kutty is trying to lessen the pressure from the youth in regard to charitable spendings.  Most of our masjids keep asking for donations while they themselves donate nothing to the poor and needy Muslims.  Fine, if he's trying to tell those who are financially straightened that praising Allah and giving good advise is "charity," okay.  But the sheikh should have added that this shouldn't be an excuse for everyone including the well-to-do to dodge giving real charity, albeit whatever they can afford as superfluous money.  And as usual, the final point of every hadith is sunk in utter vulgarity.  "Sexual act" equivalent to charity?!  Abu Dharr al-Ghifari was not a sane person.  Yet storytellers are audacious enough to claim this man renounced Muwiyah's rule and went to Syria to preach the true teachings of the Prophet (pbuh).

Walaykum Salam and many thanks sister Heba for informing us on the recent state of mind of our scholars.  It still hasn't improved.

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2019, 07:58:57 am »



They said, 'O Messenger of Allah, when one of us fulfills his sexual desire, will he have some reward for that?'

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So now, hadith proclaims each time a man screws his wife, he gets a reward.   What next?   And Sheikh Kutty asserts that to know real Islam you need to follow this sort of stuff.


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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2019, 08:02:27 am »



lol  Cheesy   moronically crazy these guys .....
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2019, 09:55:26 am »



"Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who has revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained ?"  (6:114) Al-Anam.

Alhumdulilah and shukran ya Rab!

If only the hadithists knew their enormous error ..


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Exactly Sister Heba.
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